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Controversial Podcaster Not Sorry For Suggesting That Cheaper Movie Theaters Are More Likely To Be Shot Up

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Saying that crime is more prominent in some areas is not new. How you present and talk about that, however, is important if you don’t want to look like a jerk.

Sisters Jackie Oshry and Claudia Oshry of The Morning Toast are currently experiencing pushback from comments they made about inexpensive movie theaters in their weekly podcast on Tuesday.

Jackie Oshry, also known as “Jackie O,” is well-known for her co-hosting spot onThe Morning Toast, as well as her Instagram profile.

Her Twitter account used to be a big hit, as well, until it was discovered that her mother is an anti-Muslim advocate. During the whirlwind of this public outing, Oshry said some hurtful things on Twitter, which led to her account being taken down.

Her Instagram profile is now set to private, as well, and cannot be viewed unless you were already following her prior to the shift in privacy settings.

The roaring difference between these two account lockdowns is that Oshry apologized for her angry words upon her mother’s reveal. She refuses, on the other hand, to apologize for her statements said during The Morning Toast.

You can listen to Tuesday’s entire podcast below, which includes Jackie O’s thoughts on safety in lower-income areas and movie theaters.

The podcast is here:

Jackie O shared in the Tuesday podcast how she has begun to enjoy the “elevation” of movie theaters: attending more expensive theaters, in higher-income locations, with ticket and snack prices that are less-than-affordable for the average income of her listeners.

In sharing her feelings about the elevated movie experience, she also expressed her thoughts of feeling safer in the higher-income space.

She believes that violent crimes, particularly mass shootings, are less likely to happen in these nicer theaters.

She also stated that she used to feel afraid when she would attend a movie at a cheap theater in the past.

Oshry said: 

“I don’t feel that way anymore with the elevation of the movie theater experience, with iPic and some of the nicer movie theaters.”

Her sister, Claudia Oshry of @GirlWithNoJob, agreed and said she’s felt “more relaxed” going to movie theaters in general, now that she’s going places with improved experiences.

Oshry closed with: 

“If you’re going to shoot up a movie theater, it’s not going to be the most expensive one.”

The brief discussion between the sisters has caused a significant backlash in their listening community.

Confused, angry, and hurt comments have appeared on both women’s personal Instagram accounts, as well as The Morning Toast’s social media pages.

The most resounding comment is the unified call for a genuine Oshry apology.

To this request, however, Jackie Oshry has pushed back, stating that she needs to hold her ground for the things she believes in, and that The Morning Toast represents.

In an initial response Oshry posted on Facebook, she came across as offended for how her listeners had interpreted her thoughts on movie theaters.

In her comment, she said: 

“The inferences some of you are making on what I said are wild. If that’s really what you think I meant and what you think of me, that’s upsetting. Overall, I was just saying I’ve been feeling safer in movie theaters (a place that for a long time I didn’t feel safe in because of all the horrible tragedies) because why would a shooter pay $30 for a movie when they can pay $15. That’s it.”

The requests for a real apology continued to come in after this Facebook post, which led to the sisters leading a follow-up podcast, entitled, “The One About Apologizing

In this podcast, Jackie O recapped the events that had occurred since Tuesday: the initial podcast, the misinterpretation and hurt feelings, and calls for an apology.

To these requests, she responded in the podcast:

“Yesterday I offended some people on this show about movie theaters. There was a lot of talk about it. People really want me to apologize, and I’ve thought about this, and I’m not going to apologize for what I said, because people are making it so much more than it is. And I don’t want to condone doing that.”

Oshry’s comments about her podcast’s mission were largely echoed between this follow-up podcast and her initial Facebook response.

On Facebook, she had said: 

“It was a bit of a harsh comment, sure, but it’s how I felt and that’s what this show is- we’re honest about our feelings and innermost thoughts. We toe the line of PC culture in a way that feels natural to us but we don’t filter everything we say, because that’s not who we are and you can watch a different show for that experience.”

Followers of The Morning Toast listened in to the latest episode, and some had feelings about the non-apology on Instagram.

Despite her listeners’ comments, Jackie Oshry will not be issuing a formal apology.

She claims to be standing by her beliefs and her podcast’s mission.

However, this illuminates something about what is hurtful or upsetting to others. If you say something that is upsetting to someone else, arguing that you didn’t mean for it to be doesn’t make the other person feel better.

Sometimes it’s better to say that you didn’t mean it in a hurtful way, but that you sincerely apologize for saying something that was, in fact, demeaning or hurtful to someone else.

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McKenzie Lynn Tozan

Written by McKenzie Lynn Tozan

McKenzie Lynn Tozan lives in North Chicago, where she works as a poet, freelance writer, and editor. She received her MFA in Creative Writing from Western Michigan University, and her BA in English from Indiana University South Bend. Her poems have appeared in Rogue Agent, Whale Road Review, the James Franco Review, Thank You for Swallowing, and elsewhere; and her essays and book reviews have appeared with Memoir Mixtapes, The Rumpus, BookPage, and Motherly, among others. When she's not reading and writing, she's in her garden or spending time with her family. For more, visit www.mckenzielynntozan.com.