There's a growing trend in the United States of married couples maintaining separate finances.
Back in the 1950s-1970s as more and more women were entering the workforce by choice or necessity, archaic laws that viewed women as property barred women from having their own assets and lines of credit in a marriage. As divorce rates also increased, women learned the benefits of having their own money and credit history.
By the 1990s, as the children of divorce were starting to marry, they understood the importance of separate finances in a marriage as a safety net "just in case."
But this separation of marital assets raised new issues for both spouses. Who pays what? Should the couple create theirs, mine and ours accounts to handle bills? Should expenses be 50/50 or based on income?
And what happens if one partner is frugal while the other is a spendthrift? Unlike how that latter word is often misused, spendthrift actually means "a person who spends money in an extravagant, irresponsible way."
A spouse whose wife has a different financial philosophy turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
ImpressiveAd273 asked:
"AITA for not paying my wife's tuition when she's blown thousands on clothes?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"My wife enrolled in an online college degree program and hasn't paid her tuition. She's a stay at home mom and drives Uber a few nights a weeks to make extra cash."
"Before we had kids, she was working part time and we split bills 50/50. I told her I'd pay for food and housing after the kids came."
"In the years since then, I've asked her to help out with costs because we are house poor and money keeps getting tighter. She spends most of what she makes on clothes and accessories, and calls it her fun money."
"I asked her to save up to pay the tuition, which is under $1,000."
"In the last week she has spent $400 on her credit card on dresses, and wants me to pay her tuition."
"It's a general associate degree. She only has 12 credits left."
"She bought the dresses on a shopping trip with her mom—no reason, she hasn't lost or gained weight, it's just pretty new dresses."
"I counted the total dresses in her closet today, it's around 80. She has a large enough selection to accommodate changes in season and some weight change."
"The degree won't lead to a specific job, she would need a bachelors or masters to do what she actually wants to do, so she just wants to finish her associates so she can wrap it up and take it to another school if she wants to someday."
"She said her big reason for the degree is almost everyone in her family has one, and she is close to finishing hers. Her mom didn't get her associates before going for a bachelors, so when she transfered to a different college, the mom had to retake many classes that didn't transfer."
"I create budgets every so often, but she never uses the tools and apps we have for them."
"I already do zero based budgeting where I split my check into several accounts, one for mortgage, one for bills, one for savings and then she only gets access to the spending and lifestyle account."
"Problem is we got a credit card a year ago and that has ruined the 'out of money, can't go out' hard stop on the lifestyle account."
"I basically pay for everything now including gas, utilities, her makeup and whatever. I do watch the kids while she is out working, or at the gym. Kids aren't in school yet."
"I told her she should drop out this semester and save up until the next round of classes starts up. She's been excited to start learning in classes again and started to tear up."
"I then said she could make a list of things she is willing to sacrifice to pay for the tuition, like her brand new iPhone, or her new purses, and if she sold them and got second hand items to replace them, she could pay the tuition with her own funds."
"She left the room at this and hasn't spoken to me since."
"AITA?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"I told my wife she should sell something valuable she owns to pay for her tuition."
"That action might make me the a**hole because I haven't set clear expectations on who pays for what."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA, but I do not get how 2 people with different financial mindsets can marry each other. I am saving, investing and have some fun money—my wife is also on the same side."
"When we first met, I had no clue about investing, but we both discussed financial goals, savings, spending habits and things like that." ~ Alex_MC_69
"Because you have talks with your partner and make agreements on what you'll do, and then one goes behind the other's back and spends the money. There's remorse, promises to do better and maybe that even happens for a while, but the changes never stick."
"I believe some couples can and do work it out, but it's usually early in the marriage. If it's ten years down the line and blowing money still happens, it's never going to change."
"To me, the responsible party needs to decide the limit on the dollar number that will make them exit the marriage." ~ Spinnerofyarn
"Stop calling her a stay at home mom... she's not. She's working."
"The idea of being a SAHM is giving her the misguided illusion that whatever money she makes driving Uber gets to be her 'fun money'."
"It can't be 'fun money' if you're struggling. She needs to be struggling too. Otherwise nothing will change. NTA." ~ Aggressive_Cup8452
"NTA. Clothes and the newest iPhone should not be your priority over your classes when you're a grown adult with kids." ~ Practical-Wheel-1033
"NTA. It's not unreasonable to ask your wife to contribute to the costs of going to school, online or in real life. If she's excited to be doing that, she should be willing to help pay for it."
"The silent treatment isn't effective at creating an atmosphere of cooperation. It's the king of passive-aggressiveness and communicates only an unwillingness to listen or negotiate."
"Don't allow her to manipulate you into paying for her tuition in this way. This is something the two of you need to negotiate together."
"I went to school for 6 years to finish my undergrad degree and get a doctorate; my husband supported me throughout, but until I had to dress better in the last two years because we were seeing patients in our clinics, I didn't buy much clothing at all, and no accessories of any kind."
"You don't spend money for frivolities when someone else is footing the bills so you can get the education you want."
"I can't understand why married couples don't combine their incomes into a joint account to pay household bills, since paying for necessities is more important than fun money. If all other expenses are being met."
"If one party is working FT and the other PT, it would make sense to use the extra for school expenses, as in this case, or fun things if that's what they decide. If you don't trust your spouse enough to share an account, why are you married in the first place? Marriage requires trust."
"That said, your wife should absolutely do whatever she can to help defray the costs of living for the two of you, then pay towards her tuition if she can. She should be buying textbooks and supplies, not extra purses or clothing."
"If she then needs help with tuition, that's reasonable if she's not otherwise spending money on unneeded fashion items."
"It's good to get an education, but not at the expense of anyone else, as much as possible. Her spending habits are not getting her where she wants to go and she needs to re-evaluate her priorities." ~ LonelyOwl68
"OP and his wife together need to create a budget for the FAMILY income and expenses. For some reason, his wife sees her Uber money as hers, while OP's money is everyone's."
"It's a lack of shared goals, I think. What they're doing is switching childcare duties and each working to earn money while the other is looking after the kids."
"I knew a couple who did this. One partner worked regular 9-5 hours, and the other taught night classes. She's not a SAHM—she just takes second shift working." ~ SophisticatedScreams
"Maybe I am old school, but if two people are married and the family is struggling, one partner shouldn't have 'fun money'."
"Your wife really needs to sit down and figure out what she wants to do, because if someone really wants to educate themselves they will prioritize it. The purchases she made goes counter to that thought."
"You need to talk with her because both of you are very different with money and it is far easier to spend it than to make it. NTA." ~ isane20XX
The OP provided an update.
"We're taking the dresses back today."
"Her mother has rooms full of brand new clothes stacked several feet deep on the furniture, with bins of receipts in case she needs to return anything. These clothes still have the tags attached, and have never been worn."
"Her mother goes recreational shopping several days a week, and whenever they go on vacation, she takes her daughters to go shop and all the expensive clothing stores instead of seeing sights or planning other activities."
"When they go out to eat, they split the cheapest food they can find and do girl math to say they saved x dollars and can now go spend it on clothes."
While it sounds like OP has managed to avoid this crisis, it sounds like a serious discussion and setting some boundaries is needed to avoid the next financial kerfuffle.















Woman Breaks Up With Boyfriend Who Worried People Would Think She Was Trans For Using Stand-To-Pee Device
Content Warning: Transphobia, Transphobic Comments
There are countless different reasons that a relationship might end, and a red flag could arise at any time. Some of these might have been learned in childhood and could improve over time.
Transphobia is absolutely a red flag that should be acted on immediately; however, with no option to fly again, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor funnelfuss was in the car with her boyfriend when they got stuck in a traffic jam.
She really needed to use the restroom, so since she had a device with her to make the process easier, she decided she'd step out of the car.
But when her boyfriend panicked and thought people might mistake her for a man, the Original Poster (OP) realized that her boyfriend was not who she thought he was.
She asked the sub:
The OP had to use the restroom while stuck in a traffic jam.
"My (26 Female) boyfriend (25 Male) and I got stuck in an insane traffic jam. My boyfriend was driving."
"We were at a standstill. Found out later on, they had closed the highway."
"I had to pee really bad, like bad bad bad. I saw that a couple guys had run to the side of the road to pee, and I decided to do the same."
"It was super open, with a few bushes by the side of the road, really not much cover."
The OP's boyfriend became uncomfortable when he realized she had a pee-to-stand device.
"I have a stand-to-pee device in my car, but when I grabbed it, my boyfriend got all weird."
"He said people would see me pee standing up and think I was Trans."
"I said no one would think that, plenty of women have pee funnels, and that also I didn't care. I have no beef with Trans people!"
"He said I should squat, just to put his mind at ease."
"I said I didn't want to get my butt and c**ch out on the highway in front of everyone, or get pee on my shoes, and I just wanted to be quick and clean."
"He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans and that I should squat, like GIRLS do."
The OP decided she was over it.
"I was dying by this point. I couldn't hold it anymore, and I really didn't want to show the world my butt, so I ran to the side of the road and slipped the device into my jeans and just peed standing up with my back to traffic."
"No one could see anything; it just slides through the zipper. But I guess maybe if someone was looking, they would be confused? But also, who's LOOKING?!"
"When I got back to the car, my boyfriend wouldn't talk to me. He says I disrespected his feelings. But it was 100% an emergency, and I don't get what his problem was."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that there was nothing wrong with using the restroom how she wanted.
"OP, don't think for one more second about this. Your boyfriend is being ridiculous."
"As if you will ever see any of those people again! Plus, holding it in for too long can cause a whole host of issues."
"It's actually genius that you have something like that in your car, just in case. I'm going to order one too now! NTA." - m_alice88
"'Honey, please show all these strangers your c**ch and a** so they know I'm not gay, mmmm'kay?'"
"A weak man, a very weak man." - lefteyedcrow
"You must have a she-wee! Those are so great for women."
"Tell your boyfriend to get over himself. You had to pee. He does not understand that squatting can suck and leave you exposed."
"If he is that upset you did this, rethink this relationship. I would find it hysterical."
"NTA." - Oktodayithink
"NTA, OP. You just needed a makeshift restroom."
"Your boyfriend apparently thought that it was normal for people to stare at strangers who are trying to pee to evaluate who they are, who they're with, and what the status of their relationship is."
"You know, to pass the time while in gridlock traffic." - Pixichixi
"You did nothing wrong, OP! When you have to go, you have to go. It's healthier to go."
"And don't apologize! We're so wired to reduce conflict, even to the point of downplaying how we feel to keep the peace or end the silence. Don't do it."
"It's a him issue. He thinks his feelings on this are more important than your discomfort about showing your naked body on the side of the road. If he can't figure that out for himself and apologize, it would be a dealbreaker for me." - lelawes
Others agreed and pointed out that the ex-boyfriend was very transphobic.
"NTA. Your boyfriend is clearly transphobic. That is 100% on him. And who cares if people think you are Trans?"
"'He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans.' And you don't want people to think you're dating someone bigoted and hateful." - GreekAmericanDom
"He may not consider himself transphobic ('I don't hate Trans people! I just don't want to be associated with them or have anyone think I'm with a Trans person!'), but he absolutely is, probably with a healthy side helping of homophobia."
"Why would he care, unless a) Trans women are not women in his eyes, or b) it somehow would be emasculating or embarrassing to his ego to be with a Trans woman."
"Also, you're in a traffic jam. Who the f**k is even watching close enough to care, and who of those people matters enough to give two s**ts about what they think."
"Not to mention, he's being weirdly controlling about your behaviors and how they reflect on him in a scenario where arguably he's never going to interact with a single person he's worrying about." - maladicta228
"This post reminds me of the time I got dressed to go to a function. It was a casual gathering. My kid (this was solidly on their father, my ex, as he's gotten insanely bigoted as he's aged) said, 'Mom, you're dressed like a Lesbian.'"
"Me: 'Lesbians have great fashion sense, I'd love to be mistaken for one.'"
"They paused for a second and realized that I truly wasn't dressing for men (despite it being my husband's work function), and that being seen as a lesbian was a good thing. I'm so glad I raised them to think for themselves, and realize that one can be wrong, admit it, and work on being a better person every day. They've never said anything like that since." - baconbitsy
"He's so insecure (and transphobic) that he cares more about what some strangers in a traffic jam might wrongly assume about you (and thereby him) than YOUR needs, comfort, and health."
"He expected you to prioritize his insecurities (feelings) above that and then punished you when you prioritized your health."
"You sure you want to be with someone like that?? NTA." - molotovmerkin
"Your boyfriend is so transphobic that he wants you to expose your genitalia on the side of the road to prove that you're not a Trans woman because he can't stand the idea of a total stranger, in a neighboring car, whom he will never speak to or see ever again, thinking he MIGHT be SHARING A CAR (because the strangers in other cars have no idea that you're dating) with a Trans woman."
"You're NTA, but get a better boyfriend." - HighCsummer
"Literally, you have to be super transphobic to think people in traffic are gonna judge you if your girlfriend is standing to pee. Like come onnnnnn, this is some insane insecurity." - Responsible-Pickle-2
Some pointed out that not only was the ex-boyfriend transphobic, but also controlling.
"This won't be the last time he expects OP to sacrifice things or make her life worse so that she can conform to his ideal of feminine stereotypes and keep up appearances for his fragile masculine ego."
"And that he gave her the silent treatment for not obliging his transphobia and misogyny disguised as 'feelings' is also problematic." - blancamystiere
"He's insecure and transphobic. He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort."
"NTA, and honestly, you can do better than this specimen." - PetersMapProject
"NTA. Your boyfriend would have preferred for everyone to see your a** and vagina than have a random stranger think his girlfriend is Trans. He would rather you expose yourself for his personal gain."
"Get a better boyfriend." - Amaze-balls-trippen
"The transphobia? The insecurity? And the silent treatment when he doesn't get his way?"
"So many red flags!" - CarolynDesign
"He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort and safety."
"He would rather you invite unwanted attention and risk by exposing your private parts to the world than have people think he (who most of the onlookers couldn't even see) might be dating a Trans person."
"NTA. OP, he's too insecure, self-centered, and immature to be a good partner to you, given that he's willing to compromise your safety to avoid a single twinge of discomfort. Dump him." - Hari_om_tat_sat
After receiving feedback, the OP was reassured and shared some positive updates.
"UPDATE: Thank you, everyone, for helping me feel sane again!"
"I got quite a few questions about which device I use, and honestly, it's about what fits you best. There are a ton of options. It's what fits you. Check out pStyle, Freshette, and EllaPee."
"I tried peeing standing up in a toilet, and it worked fine. I think my aim was pretty good, but then I saw little droplets on the floor. No thanks, don't need that. Also, it's loud? Awkward."
"But for the outside, it's pretty fun! I drive a lot, that's why it was in my car. Lifesaver."
"Also, I guess in this case it brought out an ugly side of my (ex) boyfriend and clarified some stuff for me. A winner all around."
"And to all the commenters asking, YES, he is an ex-boyfriend now."
"And yes, there were other red flags."
"Ditched the man, kept the pee funnel. Gonna laugh at him every time I pee standing up."
There's no way to imagine just how awkward the rest of the car ride was after using the restroom and returning to the now-silent and very entitled boyfriend, still stuck in a traffic jam.
But fortunately for the OP, she learned something vital about her relationship during a moment that should have been a total non-issue.
By being concerned about this and expecting the OP to prioritize her ex's pride over her comfort, safety, and cleanliness, her ex told her everything she needed to know.