When you have a terminal illness—when you've been told to prepare for the unpreparable, and you will leave family and loved ones behind, how do you have the conversation with them?
How do you tell your loved ones to get ready for a life without you?
Redditor TheoryOfUgh was in this situation after receiving a terminal brain cancer diagnosis. Conflicted about whether or not to spare his wife and daughter from this horrible news, he went to the popular subReddit "Am I The A**hole?" or "AITA" for perspective.
He asked:
"AITA for not telling my wife and daughter that I'm dying?"
Our original poster, or OP, told us about what went into his fateful diagnosis.
"Hi Reddit."
"I'll try and keep this brief, last August I found out I have brain cancer, I won't survive. I'm not taking any treatment as I don't want to draw it out so it's going to be a brief ordeal."
He's been keeping it to himself in order to not interfere with his wife and daughter's lives.
"My wife and daughter have no idea, I've done a good job at trying to act like everything is normal and for the most part it has been."
"My daughter is on track to get into a top tier university this September and my wife and I recently had a great anniversary at home, we went all out and heated up some ready meals and watched Netflix."
"My reasoning for deceiving them is this: they don't need to know and knowing right now will make things difficult, there isn't a person alive who can stop this from happening so me telling them beforehand just causes them unnecessary pain."
"My wife is really busy with work and my daughter is working really hard in school, I don't think it's right to distract them from that."
But his perceived selflessness may have worse consequences.
"Here's where I think I may be TA. I'm actively lying to the two women I love the most every day by not telling them about this, they are living a normal happy life and have no idea that I won't be there by Christmas, I may not make it to see my daughter move out."
"This is going to be a massive shock to them both and I'm concerned for how they will take this."
"Unsure what else to say as that's basically everything. AITA here?"
Anonymous strangers weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
- NAH - No A**holes Here
Despite the difficult situation, Reddit thinks OP is very, VERY wrong here.
"YTA in the nicest way possible. You think you're helping them or trying to protect them but you're just going to make it worse for them."
"Lying about it isn't going to stop you from dying either. You need to tell them so they can start to process and prepare for the inevitable."
"It may be harder for you but it will make things better for them in the long run."~friendlynea
"For the love of God OP please tell your family. I know you mean so well and bless your bravery, but you said it yourself that you feel terrible for lying to these two women who clearly adore you and who you mean the world to."
"I've heard and seen stories like these so many times in my life and every time it ends up horribly for everybody involved and nobody gets closure."
"They're your family. These are the people you go to when you want to celebrate life and all your succeses and the people you go to when you're at your lowest points in your life and are scared and possibly in denial of what is going to come."
"Please don't deny them (and yourself) of the power of love even in the face of illness."
"YTA, but the most gentle YTA I can say because I know you mean so well. Please let them know and know that they will 100% have your back and love you. I promise you they will."~imsohungrydude
"My mother had cancer in 2003. I found out on the ride back to college from Thanksgiving break my freshman year and my dad told me, alone, after my brother had been dropped off at the Amtrak to return to HIS college."
"Mom wasn't in the car and Dad couldn't even say the words cancer or chemotherapy (I had to ask and clarify)."
"I quickly found out they chose not to tell my brother because his new girlfriend (now wife) had visited over Thanksgiving. Mom started chemo the next day."
"Because I am not a complete a**hole, I called my brother (we were not even close at the time) myself and I had to f**king tell him. And then broke down."
"Because I had been given awful news and then just SEE YOU AT CHRISTMAS inside like 15-30 minutes."
"But the worst part? Mom had been diagnosed in SEPTEMBER. There had just been disagreement from Sept to November about which exact type of cancer she had; one of the options would have killed her inside of six months."
"She spent three of those months not even telling us she was sick. Frankly, I'm still angry. I hate secret-keeping and my family is intensely dysfunctional about communication and boundaries on a good day."
"I can only imagine how I would have felt if suddenly she had died and I had never even known she was sick."
"Please, please tell them. They need time to process. And frankly, it's going to make their grief so much more complicated when they're struggling to be angry at the fact that they didn't know, and they have the right to be upset that you didn't tell them."~birdsofpaper
"YTA. To add some practical aspects to the emotional aspects of your family's need to prepare:"
"If something happens (e.g., you collapse, have a seizure, start having symptoms that affect your behavior) and you have not told them about your diagnosis, they will be terrified and unprepared."
"In addition, your wife, who has both a legal responsibility and a familial obligation to care for you, will be utterly uninformed of both your condition and your desires about treatment."
"If you are incapacitated, she may choose to treat aggressively, as you have not told her what you want."
"I suggest you buy a copy of the form 'Five Wishes' (https://fivewishes.org/) and fill it out, and then share it with your wife."
"It will help facilitate the difficult conversations you need to have, and if you are in the US, help set up a binding health care proxy."
"Also, be sure your will is in order, and do it soon when the soundness of your mind cannot be questioned after the fact."
"If you don't make a will, your estate will be distributed according to your state's estate law, which may not lead to the outcome you want, and will probably cost more than having a proper will."
"As you are likely to be incapacitated for a while before you die, you also need to set up very clear legal and financial proxies."
"And all your planning needs to take into account your wife might get hit by a bus while you are incapacitated, so you also need to have firm legal arrangements for your daughter's care should neither of you be available for her."
"Not talking to and planning with your wife endangers the whole family."
"You know what is happening. You need to be sure everything is in order to make it as easy for your family as you can."
"Right now you're deliberately choosing to make 'after' as difficult for them as possible, so that you, selfishly, can avoid the difficult but necessary things you should be doing 'before.'"~Jazzlike_Humor3340
The family one leaves behind after death need time to grieve and process, which OP is currently denying them.
"Exactly a soft YTA they deserve to know what is happening and prepare for it mentally and emotionally."
"If you do not tell them they will struggle even more to cope with your death afterwards."
"You should tell them and try to make as memories as possible with them otherwise the women you love may blame themselves for not spending more time with you. Sorry about your diagnosis."~Disneyfan6428
"My dad died when I was 30 and we knew for a few months he was dying and I got to have many lovely conversations with him as we all processed it, which we never would have had if no one had any idea it was happening."
"A very gentle YTA, I really treasure every one of those moments and if I hadn't known and he had died, I would have had a much larger hole in my heart."
"One of the worst things about a sudden death is regretting not being able to say certain things or resolve certain issues and regretting chances to connect one last time."~Ok_Tart_3185
"YTA. Their job and studying are going well so what? You know what will still be there after you die? Them with their jobs and study. You know what won't be there? YOU!"
"Let them knowingly enjoy the time they have left with you. You need to speak to them. Just because you've been told you don't have long left doesn't mean that's the case."
"My friend with brain cancer was told he only had one year to live. He died three years later."
"Lying won't stop you from dying. But love from your family and friends might just help you hang in there a bit longer."~GabberCat
"As someone who has studied death and dying, a gentle YTA."
"So many factors affect how someone grieves, and that includes how sudden (or perceived to be sudden) the loss was, how traumatic, how close of a relationship, etc."
"By keeping this from them until the literal end, you are taking from them a very real opportunity to begin that process, to come to any place of acceptance, and being able to mourn without the complication of ambivalent feelings over what may feel like a betrayal."
"There are many things you can all do together which can aide you in achieving what is deemed a 'good death,' and them in navigating everything that comes with such a loss."
"Consult with your physicians about palliative care to help facilitate management for all aspects of your illness' progression—including mental health care, for instance, which may help you all process everything, or help you figure out how to break the news."
"Palliative care teams are interdisciplinary, meaning many different specialists (not just medical) work together to support your quality of life during such a time."
"That support is invaluable and extends to immediate family."
"In the short term, I can completely understand your thought process. In the long term however, I truly think you are dangerously underestimating the impact this will have on their lives and wellbeing."
"I'm so sorry you are even in such a place to have to consider this, and I wish you all peace and healing in such a difficult situation."~LoveisaNewfie
And if he continues to deny them then his passing will hit them all the worse.
"I'm so very sorry this is happening to you but YTA."
"My father died 8 years ago from cancer. It was so fast I had 4 days between finding out about it and him dying while I held his hand."
"The thing I wish for most is that I'd known how little time I had left with him so I could've treasured the moments I had while I had them."
"I would've made different choices about how I spent my time. I would've asked him SO MANY questions that I thought I had years to ask."
"I would've taken more photos, more videos, I would've recorded his voice. There are people on here saying 'at least tell your wife' but I beg of you, tell your daughter too."
"Do not rob her of the opportunity to ask you things and spend time with you. She can take an extra year of high school; that will matter so much less in the long run."~mert87
"Personally I believe YTA: you're denying your daughter and Wife of closure of spending the last few months with you and making memories. They are going to be hurt and pissed about that."
"I understand why you're doing this. But please while you're in good health tell them so they have that chance to make the memories, spend the time with you they deserve, also to start therapy, and support each other."
"Your daughter is going to be affected by this no matter what, its best she lets it run its course now and she just explains during her interviews with the colleges what is going on."~Spartan186
"YTA gently. The only person you are saving from pain is yourself."
"I was able to come to terms with my mother's inoperable brain tumors more gently because I was told the moment she was diagnosed."
"I had the opportunity to speak with her and tell her I loved her before she passed and came to terms to it."
"When she passed, it felt more like she wasn't suffering anymore. Sure it hurt, but there was a sense of calm that the struggle was over."
"I have no clue what I would have done if it was kept from me until the day she died."
"I would have felt betrayal because I wasn't trusted to know, sorrow that I couldn't help give support, confusion dealing with death so suddenly, and resentment that I was denied the opportunity to say goodbye."
"It will be so much more painful for them if you do not tell. You are saving your own feelings not wanting to hurt them only to cause them much greater pain when you are gone. Please let them know."~Jendi2016
"YTA. I think you already know this. Here's why I say so. If I were in your wife or your daughter's shoes, I'd want to know."
"Hell, you'd want to know. I'm sorry that this has happened to you, and it's extremely unfair to you."
"You're within your right to be selfish and spend your last few days in happiness and see your family smile along with you, but it would be way too hard on them for years after you're gone."
"They'd wonder why you lied, they'd wish you told them the truth, they'd wish they could tell you how much they loved you, they'd regret fighting with you or being mad at you, they'd have tons of things left unsaid..."
"Think about your daughter who'd go to the university with grief, you're happy for her now that she is doing well but do you really want to ruin her university over your death?"
"Sudden deaths are the most painful. If they know you're sick, they'd be in pain for about a few days and it would be hard for you to see, but they'd reach acceptance and all of you will cherish your remaining time together."
"You'll finish your checklist and have the best possible time you've left. They'll tell you how much they love you as you go and you'd to the same."
"You'll be at peace knowing that. And when you go, they'll be in grief but they'd be prepared for the moment, so it would be less hard on them."
"So please tell them. I can understand where you're coming from, but nevertheless, don't be selfish and let them cherish the time they've left with you."~a_wishful_firefly
This is an awful situation for OP to be in. We wish him the best as he moves forward with his plan to finally bring his daughter and wife in on this difficult information.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
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