The pandemic has brought about a "new normal" for the workplace. Many offices have found that work from home solutions and more relaxed rules can really help employee morale without reducing productivity.
But that's not the case everywhere, and as some companies try to return to the office, they're finding that not everyone is on the same page.
Redditor toebeansandrices experienced this schism when one of his employees had to come back into the office after a very relaxed work-from-home environment. Now they're asking the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subReddit if they handled it well.
The original poster (OP) asks:
"AITA for handing an employee a lint roller and telling her to use it before heading into a meeting?"
The story goes:
"I supervise 15 employees. Annie got too comfortable WFH. We gave a wide berth for everyone to try to cope, but Annie took a mile."
"She'd attend meetings in her unmade bed with bed head, let her dogs bark & insist she couldn't put them in another room, etc. We let it slide because this was an adjustment for all, but did remind her that despite us being on Zoom, we needed to still act and try to look professional."
"After coming back, it got worse. We don't expect everyone to be runway ready, but she'll wear hoodies that have obviously been worn for days, leggings, ratty shoes, hair in a very messy bun, old makeup, etc."
"Annie came in with a black fleece absolutely covered in dog hair. I pulled her aside, asked if she had a change of clothes for our 11AM meeting. She said no. I asked 'Then do you have a lint roller?' She again said no and looked down and asked what was wrong with what she was wearing."
"At this point I'd had enough and said 'Dude, you're covered in dog hair.'"
"She giggled and said 'I gave the doggies extra snuggles before work.'"
"I tried my best to be gentle, saying she had to either change or take off the jacket. 11 comes around, I'm greeting clients, she comes in, still covered in nasty dog hair. I pulled her out of the room saying we forgot her USB, went to my office and handed her a lint brush. "
"I told her to get as much of the dog hair off her jacket as she could, and we'd have a talk later."
"Annie stomped off instead and said she was using her sick time for the rest of the day. I handled the meeting."
"She threw a fit all over social media about her Oppressive Employer who just doesn't understand what depression or anxiety are, how hard she worked just to get out of bed, etc."
"She said I shamed her publicly, made her feel lower than low, all because she was experiencing separation anxiety from her dogs while she was at work and was struggling with depression dealing with everything. I have an outdated idea of being 'office-ready.'"
"The comments were what made me come here to post. Pretty much everyone siding with her on our archaic ideas of working in offices, how we obviously don't care about our employees' mental health, etc."
"I know we're facing 'a new normal' kind of situation where things are rapidly changing. We are not the kind of business where everything can be done remotely forever, and I don't think that it's a stretch to request someone use a f***ing lint roller before a meeting."
"But that's why I'm here. AITA?"
OP also added some context for how they came across the social media posts, and why they didn't go to their human resources.
"Edited to add: Thanks for the feedback, everyone. A few notes as they have come up in comments: I don't follow her on social media, others do, and I had another employee show me her breakdown because she was concerned."
"We don't use HR to police employees/use them as 'school principals' in that sense. 'Going to HR' is a last-ditch thing here."
"Finally, I did not post this so people could gatekeep how depression presents in people. Please stop telling me what people with depression are 'really' like because it comes in many shapes and forms."
It was then the job of the AITA board to pass judgement on OP and their actions.
This is done with one of the following comments:
- NTA – Not the A**hole
- YTA – You're the A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everybody Sucks Here
For asking their employee to lint roller their sweater and follow basic dress code rules, OP was judge NTA.
"NTA. Annie is unprofessional on so many different levels. If she's truly at the point where she's so depressed she can't follow dress code, she needs to talk to someone about a leave of absence and get her mental health in check." - delli_e
"NTA - it doesn't take much for an employee to be presentable and i dont think its asking much for an employee to not be covered in dog hair at a client meeting. Work has dress codes that are agreed to and adhered to by all other staff, why should she be treated any different?" - Interstellar_Nebula
"NTA. Unless you were aware of her mental health issues prior to this incident, how were you supposed to know she was having issues dealing with depression and anxiety? It isn't unreasonable to ask your employees to dress appropriately."
"It's not like you were asking her to come in a full business suit, you just wanted her to not be covered in dog fur." – Virulencer
"It's likely OP won't see this, but it's still important. You're talking about someone who has it in their head that it's okay to attend meetings in bed and show up to work unwashed and covered in dog hair."
"Depression and anxiety aside, this isn't a normal thought pattern. I've certainly done my share of showing up to work looking like death because I Just Couldn't that day, but I also knew that wasn't okay, tried not to do it, would never do that if I had an important meeting, and pretty much kept to myself as much as possible."
"Thinking that there's nothing wrong with it isn't depression and anxiety, it's something else entirely and I hope she gets the help she needs." – lunameow
However not everyone agreed. Some felt that Annie was wrong to come to work covered in dog hair, but thought OP was giving too wide a berth.
They said OP needs to put their foot down on this situation and were enabling it by not doing so.
"ESH. Annie needs to be work ready, but you don't sound like you're handling this very well as her manager.
"You are tip toeing around the actual issue instead of dealing with it head on. Stop giving way to these 'new normal' excuses, and start taking some actual action to address the issue."
"Get your concerns in writing, have a meeting with her (and preferably someone from HR), have her sign something at the end of the meeting that she understands what was discussed. How is she supposed to know her behavior is an issue when her own manager treats it like it's no big deal?" - 0biterdicta
"I'm going against the grain as I feel this is absolutely an ESH situation. Annie sucks for multiple reasons that many others have pointed out, including rampant unprofessionalism and insubordination."
"The OP sucks because they are being a sh** manager who is letting their employees publicly slander the company and is allowing their employees to storm off like a cranky toddler, apparently with no consequences."
"Instead of going straight to HR to write up an employee that's refusing to comply with management instructions, you go to Reddit to ask if you're being mean? That's some spectacularly bad management, and if I was your boss and I found this thread, I'd fire both of you." - Mithrander_Grey
Considering everything going on the last year, it's understandable if Annie isn't handling it well. And OP is giving a lot of slack since there is so much going on.
But that doesn't entitle someone to go this far without consequence. Annie needs help, and that doesn't involve wearing dog fur to work.















Woman Breaks Up With Boyfriend Who Worried People Would Think She Was Trans For Using Stand-To-Pee Device
Content Warning: Transphobia, Transphobic Comments
There are countless different reasons that a relationship might end, and a red flag could arise at any time. Some of these might have been learned in childhood and could improve over time.
Transphobia is absolutely a red flag that should be acted on immediately; however, with no option to fly again, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor funnelfuss was in the car with her boyfriend when they got stuck in a traffic jam.
She really needed to use the restroom, so since she had a device with her to make the process easier, she decided she'd step out of the car.
But when her boyfriend panicked and thought people might mistake her for a man, the Original Poster (OP) realized that her boyfriend was not who she thought he was.
She asked the sub:
The OP had to use the restroom while stuck in a traffic jam.
"My (26 Female) boyfriend (25 Male) and I got stuck in an insane traffic jam. My boyfriend was driving."
"We were at a standstill. Found out later on, they had closed the highway."
"I had to pee really bad, like bad bad bad. I saw that a couple guys had run to the side of the road to pee, and I decided to do the same."
"It was super open, with a few bushes by the side of the road, really not much cover."
The OP's boyfriend became uncomfortable when he realized she had a pee-to-stand device.
"I have a stand-to-pee device in my car, but when I grabbed it, my boyfriend got all weird."
"He said people would see me pee standing up and think I was Trans."
"I said no one would think that, plenty of women have pee funnels, and that also I didn't care. I have no beef with Trans people!"
"He said I should squat, just to put his mind at ease."
"I said I didn't want to get my butt and c**ch out on the highway in front of everyone, or get pee on my shoes, and I just wanted to be quick and clean."
"He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans and that I should squat, like GIRLS do."
The OP decided she was over it.
"I was dying by this point. I couldn't hold it anymore, and I really didn't want to show the world my butt, so I ran to the side of the road and slipped the device into my jeans and just peed standing up with my back to traffic."
"No one could see anything; it just slides through the zipper. But I guess maybe if someone was looking, they would be confused? But also, who's LOOKING?!"
"When I got back to the car, my boyfriend wouldn't talk to me. He says I disrespected his feelings. But it was 100% an emergency, and I don't get what his problem was."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that there was nothing wrong with using the restroom how she wanted.
"OP, don't think for one more second about this. Your boyfriend is being ridiculous."
"As if you will ever see any of those people again! Plus, holding it in for too long can cause a whole host of issues."
"It's actually genius that you have something like that in your car, just in case. I'm going to order one too now! NTA." - m_alice88
"'Honey, please show all these strangers your c**ch and a** so they know I'm not gay, mmmm'kay?'"
"A weak man, a very weak man." - lefteyedcrow
"You must have a she-wee! Those are so great for women."
"Tell your boyfriend to get over himself. You had to pee. He does not understand that squatting can suck and leave you exposed."
"If he is that upset you did this, rethink this relationship. I would find it hysterical."
"NTA." - Oktodayithink
"NTA, OP. You just needed a makeshift restroom."
"Your boyfriend apparently thought that it was normal for people to stare at strangers who are trying to pee to evaluate who they are, who they're with, and what the status of their relationship is."
"You know, to pass the time while in gridlock traffic." - Pixichixi
"You did nothing wrong, OP! When you have to go, you have to go. It's healthier to go."
"And don't apologize! We're so wired to reduce conflict, even to the point of downplaying how we feel to keep the peace or end the silence. Don't do it."
"It's a him issue. He thinks his feelings on this are more important than your discomfort about showing your naked body on the side of the road. If he can't figure that out for himself and apologize, it would be a dealbreaker for me." - lelawes
Others agreed and pointed out that the ex-boyfriend was very transphobic.
"NTA. Your boyfriend is clearly transphobic. That is 100% on him. And who cares if people think you are Trans?"
"'He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans.' And you don't want people to think you're dating someone bigoted and hateful." - GreekAmericanDom
"He may not consider himself transphobic ('I don't hate Trans people! I just don't want to be associated with them or have anyone think I'm with a Trans person!'), but he absolutely is, probably with a healthy side helping of homophobia."
"Why would he care, unless a) Trans women are not women in his eyes, or b) it somehow would be emasculating or embarrassing to his ego to be with a Trans woman."
"Also, you're in a traffic jam. Who the f**k is even watching close enough to care, and who of those people matters enough to give two s**ts about what they think."
"Not to mention, he's being weirdly controlling about your behaviors and how they reflect on him in a scenario where arguably he's never going to interact with a single person he's worrying about." - maladicta228
"This post reminds me of the time I got dressed to go to a function. It was a casual gathering. My kid (this was solidly on their father, my ex, as he's gotten insanely bigoted as he's aged) said, 'Mom, you're dressed like a Lesbian.'"
"Me: 'Lesbians have great fashion sense, I'd love to be mistaken for one.'"
"They paused for a second and realized that I truly wasn't dressing for men (despite it being my husband's work function), and that being seen as a lesbian was a good thing. I'm so glad I raised them to think for themselves, and realize that one can be wrong, admit it, and work on being a better person every day. They've never said anything like that since." - baconbitsy
"He's so insecure (and transphobic) that he cares more about what some strangers in a traffic jam might wrongly assume about you (and thereby him) than YOUR needs, comfort, and health."
"He expected you to prioritize his insecurities (feelings) above that and then punished you when you prioritized your health."
"You sure you want to be with someone like that?? NTA." - molotovmerkin
"Your boyfriend is so transphobic that he wants you to expose your genitalia on the side of the road to prove that you're not a Trans woman because he can't stand the idea of a total stranger, in a neighboring car, whom he will never speak to or see ever again, thinking he MIGHT be SHARING A CAR (because the strangers in other cars have no idea that you're dating) with a Trans woman."
"You're NTA, but get a better boyfriend." - HighCsummer
"Literally, you have to be super transphobic to think people in traffic are gonna judge you if your girlfriend is standing to pee. Like come onnnnnn, this is some insane insecurity." - Responsible-Pickle-2
Some pointed out that not only was the ex-boyfriend transphobic, but also controlling.
"This won't be the last time he expects OP to sacrifice things or make her life worse so that she can conform to his ideal of feminine stereotypes and keep up appearances for his fragile masculine ego."
"And that he gave her the silent treatment for not obliging his transphobia and misogyny disguised as 'feelings' is also problematic." - blancamystiere
"He's insecure and transphobic. He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort."
"NTA, and honestly, you can do better than this specimen." - PetersMapProject
"NTA. Your boyfriend would have preferred for everyone to see your a** and vagina than have a random stranger think his girlfriend is Trans. He would rather you expose yourself for his personal gain."
"Get a better boyfriend." - Amaze-balls-trippen
"The transphobia? The insecurity? And the silent treatment when he doesn't get his way?"
"So many red flags!" - CarolynDesign
"He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort and safety."
"He would rather you invite unwanted attention and risk by exposing your private parts to the world than have people think he (who most of the onlookers couldn't even see) might be dating a Trans person."
"NTA. OP, he's too insecure, self-centered, and immature to be a good partner to you, given that he's willing to compromise your safety to avoid a single twinge of discomfort. Dump him." - Hari_om_tat_sat
After receiving feedback, the OP was reassured and shared some positive updates.
"UPDATE: Thank you, everyone, for helping me feel sane again!"
"I got quite a few questions about which device I use, and honestly, it's about what fits you best. There are a ton of options. It's what fits you. Check out pStyle, Freshette, and EllaPee."
"I tried peeing standing up in a toilet, and it worked fine. I think my aim was pretty good, but then I saw little droplets on the floor. No thanks, don't need that. Also, it's loud? Awkward."
"But for the outside, it's pretty fun! I drive a lot, that's why it was in my car. Lifesaver."
"Also, I guess in this case it brought out an ugly side of my (ex) boyfriend and clarified some stuff for me. A winner all around."
"And to all the commenters asking, YES, he is an ex-boyfriend now."
"And yes, there were other red flags."
"Ditched the man, kept the pee funnel. Gonna laugh at him every time I pee standing up."
There's no way to imagine just how awkward the rest of the car ride was after using the restroom and returning to the now-silent and very entitled boyfriend, still stuck in a traffic jam.
But fortunately for the OP, she learned something vital about her relationship during a moment that should have been a total non-issue.
By being concerned about this and expecting the OP to prioritize her ex's pride over her comfort, safety, and cleanliness, her ex told her everything she needed to know.