Modesty in relation to religion is common across cultures, sects and denominations. You see it in the clothing of Catholic clergy, Orthodox Jews, Amish, Muslims and Mennonites to name only a few.
The degree to which people practice modesty is sometimes a strict social guidance and other times it's open to individual choice.
A woman who chooses to practice modesty fof her faith turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback after photos of her were shared online.
Similar-Hope-9839 asked:
"AITA for asking my friend to take down her bachelorette party photos?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"To start this off I am a Muslim woman who wears the hijab. I cover my hair and most of my body."
"It is haram (a sin) to willingly show a man my hair once I've become a full blown hijabi, unless he is a male family member or husband. Of course every sin has different weights, and it's more so a personal thing between me and God rather than anyone else."
"I do not judge those who don't do the same, nor do I try to impose my beliefs onto others. Everyone will have their own personal journeys, and just as I know I'm not perfect, I can't judge others for it either."
"It is simply necessary for me. It makes me feel comfortable."
"I (23, female) recently went to a friend's bachelorette party. Women only, no drinks, just girls being girls and celebrating a friends soon to be marriage."
"Maya (24, female) has been a friend of mine since kindergarten and I'm more than happy to be a part of such a big part of her life. She isn't religious, but she accepts my views and is even going to let me wear a more modest style abaya as her maid of honour."
"This is to say Maya understands the hijab and what it means to me, or so I thought."
"At the party, I took it off as it was just women. We were going to sleep over anyways, so I don't think anyone was expecting me to sleep in the thing.
"I always find it funny how they react when they get to see my hair, like I'm secretly Repunzel or something. We watched a movie, took photos and videos, and generally had a good time."
"I had no problems with the photos being taken, since my friends are usually respectful and don't post them anywhere. It just stays in our groupchat."
"We went to sleep and the next day everything was normal. We cleaned up and I drove home, finally checking my phone."
"I opened instagram to the tagged icon and checked it to see myself and the girls on Maya's public account."
"I quickly messaged Maya asking her to take it down before anyone else saw, as I couldn't control whether or not some guy was going to see her post, and she refused saying that there were no other good photos of her."
"I asked her to simply crop me out or even draw over my hair and neck but she said that it would look wrong and that I'm overreacting. I insisted I wasn't and that she knew that I couldn't show my hair to just anyone."
"Instead of responding to me, she took it to the groupchat as some sort of 'counsel'. Half of them agreed that she shouldn't have posted a photo of me without my hijab and a couple others told me I was overreacting and no one cared besides me."
"I should note that one of the most vocal of them who disagreed generally doesn't like me so she would have disagreed regardless of what I said."
"All of the photos of me were candids—besides one which was not one of the ones she posted on Instagram. The whole carousel were candids of what was essentially a pyjama party."
"I've known these girls for years and it's been known that photos of me without my hijab just stay between us. I used to just say no to photos, but it'd always be a mood killer."
"There were around 40 photos taken and I was only in 6 of them. She only posted 7 on Instagram, but I was in 3."
"I was in the minority of the 40 photos, and still was in almost half of the Instagram post. I removed my hijab for the party because that's a conversation I had with my friends ages ago."
"I've known Maya since we were 5 years old. She grew up seeing my mother wear the hijab, and was there as I started to wear it in my teen years."
"I've communicated my boundaries to her, and the group, over the course of years."
"Most of us are urging her to take down the post, and now she's claiming we're putting her under a lot of stress with the wedding only a week away, but I don't see what that has to do with this."
"Am I really being unreasonable for wanting to be respected? AITA?"
The OP added:
"There were about 40 photos and I was only in 6 of them. People are under the impression that I was in every photo taken."
"I wasnt, yet I was in almost half of which were posted. All of the ones posted were candids."
The OP summed up their situation.
"I'm asking her to take down her Instagram post. She's claiming she's really stressed because of it and that it isn't a big deal, so me pushing it might make me an a**hole."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA. If a friend of mine asked me to remove a photo with them in it—for WHATEVER reason—it'd be removed from the photo before the day ended. My friends can trust me 100% that I won't put them in a position that makes them uncomfortable."
"But, at this point, you have no control. You can ask her to remove the photo, but you can't control it."
"Learn from this and don't trust her again. You can't let your guard down around everyone." ~ ladystetson
"My husband is very private and doesn't want his photos online anywhere. Friends posted photos on Facebook that they took at our wedding and quickly took them down when asked."
"There's nothing unreasonable about asking your friends to remove photos of you from social media. NTA." ~ IAmGoingToThat
"My husband is very particular about what photos of him go online, to the point that I always ask him before I post a photo, even a benign one. If he says no, I don't post it, no matter how cute it is or if I look good in the photo or whatever. Simple as that."
"I cannot imagine what would ever possess me, short of a brain tumour, to post photos of a woman without her hijab online in the first place, much less stubbornly refuse to take them down once asked."
"I'd be incredibly embarrassed to have made a mistake like that, and would be tripping over myself to fix it and apologise. NTA." ~ boudicas_shield
"I don't see what being a friend has to do with this. A decent person would do it if a complete stranger asked. Heck, I would do it even if it was someone I disliked. NTA." ~ Infinite_Slide_5921
"You don't even have to be a friend, you just have to have basic decency. I wouldn't do this to anyone, including a total stranger. NTA." ~ boudicas_shield
The OP provided an update.
"I wanted to give it a couple days before I updated to let the situation cool down or hopefully resolve itself. In short, the post got taken down, the wedding is still happening, and I'm still friends with her."
"I got a bunch of DMs from her fiancé the other day, apologizing, saying that he'd recognized me in the photos of me without my hijab and he'd informed me that he told her to take them down."
"He's Christian—possibly Russian Orthodox—and from what I understand, his mother veils so he understands the rules around hijab a good bit."
"He felt bad he saw me and I had to reassure him that it wasn't his fault and thanked him for talking to Maya for me. He asked if this whole situation would affect our friendship, and I told him I wasn't sure in what way."
"A bit after, Maya finally messaged me one to one for the first time after the whole fiasco. She apologized and explained she didn't think it was a big deal since her other Muslim friend doesn't wear the hijab and she thought I was simply being dramatic."
"I told her that everyone is different and what someone else chooses to do with their body and faith doesn't mean someone else will do the same."
"My older sister doesn't wear the hijab, Maya's seen her. It's a personal choice and no two people are going to have the same relationship with it."
"I asked her why me asking her to take it down wasn't enough on it's own, since she'd done similar things for others in the past—think bra strap showing, unflattering angle, exposed scars—without hesitation."
"She said she wasn't thinking straight and felt like it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It was only when her fiancé brought it up to her that she took it down."
"She put the other four photos up—the ones without me in them—and she realized that she was being stubborn for no reason. She asked me if there was anything she could do to make up for it and I asked her to just keep it in the past."
"I'd like to clear up the notion that is the first bachelorette party or even wedding our friend group has had, since that's far from it. Added, we've had conversations regarding special occasions MANY times so even if it was the first time, this shouldn't have happened."
"This wedding will be the third and come by September, mine will be the fourth! Also, we've been friends for almost two decades, so cutting her off over this would be so out of proportion."
"I did not report the photos to Instagram, and I did not abandon my faith like some of you suggested. This may not be the update some were wanting, but at least things are better now and the wedding is soon and going as planned!"
It sounds like cooler heads prevailed and everything worked out for the best.















Humiliated Redditor Ditches Friend's Birthday After She Publicly Mocks Them In Front Of Everyone
Fake people tend to show their true colors during pivotal moments, like weddings and major celebrations.
But when they want an audience to hurt someone else, it takes total sense that they would be called out in front of everyone, as agreed by members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit.
Redditor HollyyGinger went to their close friend's birthday party, expecting to have a good time and celebrate their loved one's special day.
But when their close friend made several mocking comments about them, and the party laughed along with them, the Original Poster (OP) took that as an indication of the state of their friendship and left the birthday party early.
They asked the sub:
The OP was excited to celebrate their close friend's birthday.
"One of my close friends had a birthday dinner last weekend, and I was genuinely excited to go."
"I helped her organize a few things beforehand, bought her a gift, and even rearranged some plans because I wanted to be there for her."
But the birthday dinner did not go at all how the OP expected.
"During dinner, though, she started making little jokes about me in front of everyone."
"At first, I laughed along because I didn't want to make things awkward on her birthday."
"But she kept going. She joked about dating life, brought up an embarrassing story I had told her privately, and made another comment about how I'm ''way too sensitive' sometimes."
"People were laughing, and I tried to act like it didn't bother me, but honestly, I felt pretty humiliated."
The OP tried to ask their friend to change the direction of the rest of the party.
"I quietly asked her when we were alone if she could stop making me the joke of the evening."
"She rolled her eyes and said I was taking everything too seriously and that everyone knew she was joking."
"I went back to the table for a while because I really didn't want to ruin her birthday."
"But then she made another joke about me, so I decided I'd had enough. I congratulated her again, said goodbye to everyone, and went home without making a scene."
The OP's friend tried to blame them for how the evening turned out.
"The next morning, she texted me, saying she was hurt that I left early and that several people noticed."
"She said that I made her feel like she had done something horrible when she was 'just having fun.' But her having fun was more of a public embarrassment to me."
"Now I feel guilty, because it was her birthday, and maybe I could have just ignored it for another hour or two."
"I wasn't trying to punish her or make the night about me. I just didn't want to sit there smiling while someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I had specifically asked her to stop."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she didn't have to stay at a party where she didn't feel welcome.
"She was having fun. You were not having fun."
"You’re not overreacting. You told her it was hurting you, and she kept doing it because hurting you was entertaining for her. She is not a good friend." - Dunquinn-
"I remember when I was really little, a bunch of adults were laughing at me as I cried."
"I cried to my mom, 'Stop laughing at me,' to which she replied, 'We aren’t laughing at you; we're laughing with you,' while giggling."
"My response was something I stand by to this day: 'Then why am I the only one crying?!'"
"It’s only funny if the person who’s being teased is laughing too. You weren’t laughing. It wasn’t funny; it was cruel. NOR." - XSmartypants
"She’s a bully. It wasn’t 'more like 'it was publicly embarrassing. It WAS publicly embarrassing."
"Then she tells you that SHE is embarrassed because YOU left early. That's bulls**t."
"NOR. Drop her." - WTH_JFG
"NOR. They make jokes about someone's privacy to humiliate that person. Anyone who would use info that was shared in confidence to get a laugh is an abuser. You don't do that, especially to a close friend, without the intent to hurt that person." - BungenessKrabb
"Would it have been fun if you did the same? Start telling her darkest secrets?"
"She made you into a punchline for other people’s entertainment."
"You told her to stop, and she didn’t; now she’s the victim?"
"NOR."
"But also, some people need to feel it to believe it. I hope you go to the next gathering with a few stories of your own and don’t let her rewrite the narrative." - beached_not_broken
"I’ve had it happen by my 'best friend' at the time, only it was in a professional setting event. Very personal details only she knew, all spilled for her amusement, embarrassing me in front of colleagues."
"NOR, OP. As you did, I left the gathering earlier than expected. My 'friend' called the next day asking why I left so early. I told her what she had said and done and how humiliated I felt."
"Her 'apology' was that flippant version that shows no remorse, like, 'Well, I’m sorry you feel that way.'"
"Over the subsequent years, she managed to alienate and burn bridges with most of those same people we were gathered with."
"I’m sorry this happened to you, OP. Anyone who thinks you were 'too sensitive' has no empathy and 'friends' like that don’t deserve your time." - Hungry_Tank9182
"NOR. She was being a jerk to you, and she was expecting you to just take it and not say anything or defend yourself."
"Because they think it's sooo funny to mock others, but I bet if the roles were reversed, she would be offended and upset."
"Honestly, you deserve better friends. I'm sorry you had to deal with this."
"I would've left and blocked her." - Cryslove
Others urged the OP to stop thinking about the event and let that friendship go.
"That was the point of her fun! Humiliating you with an audience!"
"Sharing something deeply personal, told in confidence? Immediate dealbreaker."
"She is not (and likely never was) your friend. Friends do not treat friends with such disrespect. Block her, and go no contact. She brings nothing good to your life, and she’s not worthy of your energy and time."
"NOR." - MizPeachyKeen
"It’s called bullying. She is not your friend. Friends don’t humiliate their true friends, or tell them 'they are too sensitive.'"
"That is what bullies do. She keeps you around to put you down and make herself look or feel better."
"Her actions, attitude, and behavior are those of an immature high schooler. She could actually be jealous of you and not want one or all of the following: you to succeed, have more friends, feel better about yourself, look better, etc."
"Please slowly distance yourself, find new hobbies and activities with more mature, well-rounded, healthy people." - Freeling_Fab_U_lous
"How DARE you spoil her fun; didn't you know that part of your gift was letting her make you the butt of her jokes? (sarcastic comment)"
"What an awful person. No one should need to put others down to raise themselves up. She doesn't deserve the title of friend, to be honest. You showed much more grace than I would have managed." - tphatmcgee
"She was using you as her punching bag to make the others attending laugh. Probably thinking you’d just take it. That’s not a good friend. NOR." - Additional-Start9455
"'Someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I asked them to stop.' NOR."
"First, you shouldn't have had to ask her to stop because a friend wouldn't have started in the first place. One of her 'jokes' was about you being sensitive, so she knew you didn't like it and did it anyway."
"Second, you asked her privately to stop, because you didn't want to embarrass her. Think about that. You didn't want to embarrass her. But she couldn't show you the same consideration, even after being asked to stop."
"That's not how I treat my friends, and I suspect that's not how you treat your friends, either." - calminthedark
"I would have answered her text that she's a s**tty friend and to f**k off. You have class."
"I probably would have made a comment at dinner that I asked her to stop with the insults."
"NOR. You did everything right." - Particular-King218
The subReddit was disappointed on the OP's behalf that a friendship they were so committed to, they were excited to celebrate their friend's birthday and even helped plan the event, came apart at their expense, and on very public terms.
If the friend didn't want to be "embarrassed," maybe she should have thought about how she was embarrassing others first.