Dinnertime isn't always fun.
When it comes to the household dinner menu, kids can be fickle.
Some parents can whip up several items at once.
Other parents go with one item and one menu.
These options can lead to some stressful mealtimes.
Redditor Grouchy-Pride5486 wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback, so naturally, she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
"AITA for telling my boyfriend's kids to eat what's for dinner or don't eat at all?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I, 27 F[emale] have been with my B[oy]F[riend], 30 for a little over a year now."
"We recently moved in together."
"I have an 8-year-old from an ex, and my boyfriend has 2 kids ages 6 and 9."
"Since we moved in together, I now have his children every weekend, and he works Fridays, so I am alone with them until he is off work."
"Friday night, I made meatloaf with roasted broccoli and mashed potatoes."
"My son eats well; he knows to eat the best he can, and if he don't finish his food that's okay, but he at least has to eat the most he can unless he doesn't want a before bedtime snack."
"I hold my boyfriend's children to these same rules, which we haven't had any issues with until Friday night."
"Neither of the kids liked the food."
"The 9-year-old ate it, the 6-year-old refused, in which I said I'm not making you another meal, so he went to bed without dinner."
"When my boyfriend got home, his 6-year-old was complaining he was hungry, and my boyfriend got upset with me that I refused to make him something else."
"I told him I wouldn't hold his children to different rules than my child."
"He got upset and ended up making him something else to eat."
"Then he told me that it was horrible of me to 'deny a child dinner' and blamed it on his young age, explaining I had to be more lenient."
"I explained that I had raised a young child before, and I was once a young child and followed those same rules, which just resulted in a huge argument and him calling me ignorant."
"Today, we got a call from my boyfriend's ex, and now the children don't want to come over until Saturday or Friday night, late when my boyfriend is off work."
"This caused another big argument between my boyfriend and I."
"He once again called me an ignorant a-hole and said I needed to change my way of thinking.'
"Add: I did not force this kid to go to bed hungry; I suggested that he eat a larger portion of his mash potatoes and smaller portion of other things which he refused, and he didn't want to make anything else himself."
The OP was left to wonder:
"AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP WAS the A**hole. But a ton of Redditors had varying opinions.
"YTA. I'm assuming that you're well intentioned and feel that this is the most helpful approach for kids' development, so you're not TA for that - but this approach is outdated and not helpful for development."
"It teaches kids to ignore their own bodily sensations, hunger cues, etc., which makes it harder for them to self-regulate their own eating and food choices in the future."
"It can also create a negative/punitive relationship with food."
"Even if it is working for you, kid, not every kid is the same, and may not work for your boyfriend's kids."
"It's not ok to have a child go without dinner (or without food for an extended period when they're hungry)."
"The main part of YTA, though, is that this isn't your child."
"You don't get to decide how to parent the child, especially if the child's parents both agree on how the child should be parented and treated, and you're trying to go against that."
"If you are unwilling to care for the kids in any other way, then you need to tell your boyfriend that you can't look after them for mealtimes and accept however he decides to proceed around that."
"You DEFINITELY don't get to be annoyed that the kids don't want to come over for those mealtimes."
"I would also refuse to spend time around someone who made me experience significant physical discomfort and denied me access to food." ~ shark_grrl
"If my kid doesn't like what I cooked, she has to make herself a slice of bread with peanut butter or cheese and a piece of fruit."
"Basically, she needs to eat something that will fuel her body, and she has to make it (adding nothing to my plate, as it were)."
"I would not appreciate my kid being sent to bed without anything to eat, especially if it wasn't mine or their dad's call. YTA." ~ InterestingNarwhal82
"I was with you until you said you sent them to bed without dinner because they wouldn't make themselves something."
"I'm sorry, wtf?"
"The child is SIX."
"Where in the world is a SIX-year-old making their own dinner?"
"It's also cruel to send a six-year-old to bed without eating."
"It takes 2 seconds to make them a sandwich. YTA." ~ greaseychips
"YTA ...because in your OP and replies, you sound extremely adversarial to this kid."
"Like why are you acting like a 6-year-old is out to get you and you have to show him who's boss?"
"Maybe this whole cohabitation thing is hard, and you could be a bit more nurturing." ~ SparklyIsMyFaveColor
"NTA, and you should think about moving out."
"And breaking up, after being called 'ignorant.'"
"You were raised in a different way; that doesn't make you ignorant."
"I was raised the same way; eat what's served, or you don't get to eat."
"But you do say there were no issues until this one dinner."
"Why do you think that is?"
"Was there anything especially different about the food?"
"Meatloaf and potatoes sounds pretty standard."
"There are jokes about people not liking broccoli, which I never understood, as I always liked it, but kids generally gravitate to meat and potatoes, so it sounds like there were other things they could've eaten."
"What made this meal different?" ~ stroppo
"Sorry, but YTA."
"Doesn't matter if YOU followed those rules before."
"The way you handled this encourages disordered eating."
"Even children have likes and dislikes just like you."
"Nobody wants to be forced to eat something they dislike."
"Figure out what they DO like and work WITH them."
"Not against them." ~ dj-anxiety5
"YTA. This child is 6."
"They are still developing the ability to predict future consequences based on current actions."
"That means they do not fully grasp that not eating dinner now means being hungry later."
"Not to mention this rule doesn't seem to be in place in their other household."
"They are being held to two different sets of expectations when it comes to meals."
"You are trying to enforce logic and reasoning on someone who does not yet possess logic and reasoning."
"You need to ask yourself if you'd rather be right on principle or be responsible for making a child go hungry." ~ Ok-Translator6897
A few Reddiors felt the exact opposite...
"I was raised the same way as you, but I then had a son who refused to eat meat. Refused."
"Would go without dinner, would try and throw up, would cry."
"I'm sure calling about a 2,3, 4-year-olds."
"He wasn't manipulative."
"He just hated it."
"The day I let it go was the best day ever."
"He eats all the veggies, shrimp, crab, rice, quinoa."
"He just hates meat and potatoes." ~ CalmFront7908
"NTA, the 6-year-old was given a sandwich by OP at 5, was offered a nice dinner at 630, and refused even to take 3 bites."
"The OP's useless man came home at 8."
"This child wasn't starving, and the OP also told the 6-year-old, 'Then you can make yourself food/sandwiches,' and the kid refused."
"So what do you all want from OP??"
"You all love to throw around that this is how disordered eating starts."
"Maybe this is what the household can afford or is nutritionally sound."
"Children would eat garbage and sugar 24/7, so sorry that an adult is trying to give them a proper meal."
"The child had eaten a sandwich at 5, and dad came home at 8."
"I think people are acting like this child was starved when likely he was acting his age and throwing a tantrum/power play."
"OP did right standing her ground."
"OP, this merging of families isn't going well."
"And your man seems like an unappreciative d**k."
"Rethink this relationship." ~ fortunatelyso
"This is my take as well."
"The 6-year-old isn't starving to death, food isn't being withheld, the adult offered that the six year old could make a sandwich or cereal."
"The 6-year-old had several options, all of which they refused."
"It's not child abuse to give the kid several options food options, but refuse to cook a whole second meal."
"That seems like a reasonable boundary. NTA." ~ Mysterious-Cake-7525
"NTA. A lot of missing info."
"Nowhere in here does it say that 6 has special dietary needs."
"Just picky, or only wants what they want to eat."
"A big a** red flag from BF!!!"
"Good thing this happened because it would be more grievous to leave after marriage."
"Came in like a freight train with his anger."
"You're not a restaurant! Geesh!" ~ Alfred-Register7379
"Agree complete,y NTA."
"I'm shocked how many people have made the OP the villain."
"It's almost like people forgot how manipulative kids can be!"
"The child may be 6, but is definitely old enough to know what buttons to push.
"It sounds more like the 6-year-old knows how to turn his biological parents against the OP." ~ MBHBoMax20
"NTA. If he doesn't like your free babysitting, then he can hire a nanny for his children."
"I'm curious how many nights a week he watches and cooks for your child alone." ~ yourlittlebirdie
"If the child was starving to death, they would eat the food they dislike. I dunno."
"I grew up as a picky eater."
"I hate that I was a picky eater, and as an adult, I push myself to try lots of food and have a varied diet."
"I read a lot on picky eating."
"And from everything I've read, letting kids not eat dinner and giving them whatever else to eat leads to picky eating."
"From what I understand, offer them varied food."
"They can have extra portions of what is made (like extra potatoes)."
"But what is for dinner is what's for dinner."
"Constantly giving in to give them something else leads children to become picky and parents making way too many meals."
"I find it odd the amount of people freaking out about a kid going to bed hungry."
"If the kid is truly hungry, they would have eaten more food/potatoes, which was something they did like." ~ ttbtinkerbell
Several readers felt there was plenty of blame to go around...
"ESH, only because of his age."
"Kids shouldn't go to be hungry when they don't need to."
"Your BF sucks for being rude and calling you names."
"It's wild that he expects you to have his kid for most of the day yet wants to call you names when your parenting styles differ."
"He needs to pick a lane."
"That being said, I understand your rule, and I, too, grew up on that."
"However, if I didn't like the food, I would have to make my own food, sandwich, cereal, cup noodles etc.; if that wasn't available my mom would do something quick and simple."
"Not a whole new meal, just something for me to eat."
"It's not a good lesson for a child to be forced to eat something they don't want or be hungry."
"Seems kind of like a power play on your part, too, to be honest."
"If you refused to make him something simple like a sandwich."
"There is definitely a middle ground between teaching them to try new food and to be grateful for what they have and going to bed hungry because he didn't want to eat your food." ~ tempuratemptations
"ESH, his kids are over for 3 days a week to see him, and he only sees them for basically 2 days a week... basically you are used as free childcare and kids can push boundaries which will/can cause issues in your relationship like this."
"On your side, I understand where you are coming from, but his kids are parented differently clearly, and you probably went into automatically with what works with your kid, which isn't the same for every kid."
"The kids coming over a bit late is for the best, but this also means you and your partner need to discuss what to do if this happens again/how to parent each other's kids because this can cause major relationship issues down the line." ~ ludicrously
"ESH. You guys are blending your families together and have to figure out what the 'house rules' are going to be so there is consistency."
"You and your partner need to discuss what these boundaries are going to be and mutually agree and to be honest should have done so prior to moving in together."
"I understand not wanting to make a totally separate meal, but most households do have alternative options if there is a non-preferred meal."
"At our house, my 4-year-old has to at least try whatever we are having for dinner."
"If he genuinely doesn't like it, then the options are leftovers, meat/cheese/veggie tray, soup, etc." ~ Thegetupkids678
Reddit is all over the place, OP.
Hopefully, you were able to cobble together some useful advice.
This may require a third-party intervention.
Maybe a little family counseling is needed.
Not seeing eye to eye on this subject could cause a lot of stress in your relationship.
Good luck!















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
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