Doing a favor for friends can be taxing but rewarding. But sometimes the ask is more than we're willing to do.
When ReluctantCosigner on Reddit refused a request from his friend, the original poster (OP) started feeling guilty. It's possible he could help, but it might be too much to be asked of him.
To figure out if he would be wrong to refuse, he decided to ask the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subreddit the question "Would I Be the A**hole" (WIBTA).
And he doesn't want to do this favor.
"WIBTA for refusing to co-sign my friend's mortgage?"
A mortgage sounds like a big ask.
"My (29m) good friend (26f) is currently house hunting."
"For a bit of background information, I come from a fairly well-off family, while my friend does not. My job also pays a decent amount more than hers does (and while said job allows me to live comfortably, I am by no means wealthy, especially considering the high cost of living in my city)."
"My friend has been trying to purchase a house for the past year and a half, and even though her credit score is excellent, she doesn't make enough money from her job to qualify for a mortgage without a co-signer."
"It's not an issue of her being too picky in terms of what houses she will consider either, since she is looking exclusively at entry-level homes in more rural areas outside of the city, where prices tend to be amongst the lowest in our wider geographical region.
"She has repeatedly suggested to me that I should co-sign on a mortgage for her. I am pretty much her only option for this, since neither her parents nor any of her other friends are in a financial position to be able to help."
"The thing is though, I really don't want to co-sign for her. Here's why:"
- "I'm working towards purchasing a place of my own in one of the most expensive real estate markets in the world. From what I understand, co-signing for her would be seen as the equivalent of me already having a pre-existing mortgage in the eyes of the bank."
"This co-sign could make it more difficult for me to secure loans that I may need for the next 25-30 years."
- "My friend has given me a guarantee that she will not default on the mortgage, but honestly, I don't see how she can make a promise like that."
"She already has health issues and works a physically demanding job. If she became incapacitated and unable to work, then her mortgage would become entirely my responsibility."
"I also feel really uncomfortable about co-signing on a mortgage for a house that I don't even intend to live in and won't be on the deed for. To me, this makes no financial sense."
- "She didn't even really ask me. She just said that this is what she needed, and expected me to go along with it."
"I've tried expressing to her how uncomfortable I am with the idea, but her response was that I'm her only hope of not being homeless, and that if I don't want to see her out on the streets, then I need to co-sign."
"I don't understand why she can't just continue to rent, but she is adamant that this is not an option for her."
"Most of our mutual friends who know about this situation are on her side, and think that not co-signing for her would be cruel. Some of them have even tried to be her co-signer, but were rejected by the bank for various different reasons (i.e., not making enough money, bad credit scores, etc.)."
"This has sort of made me question whether I'm being unreasonable and selfish."
"So, good people of r/AmItheAsshole, I need to know: would I be the asshole if I refused to co-sign my friend's mortgage?"
OP has listed some compelling reasons why he doesn't want to cosign for his friend. But is he just being selfish by not helping?
Redditors judged whether OP would be wrong to refuse by including one of the following in their response:
- NTA – Not the A**hole
- YTA – You're the A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everybody Sucks Here
Cosigning for a mortgage is a big deal. It's a big purchase, and if something goes wrong, there's a lot of money on the line for both signers.
While it would be nice if OP would sign, he's not required, nor should he be expected to sign.
"This is absolutely the loudest NTA I've ever declared"
"DO NOT CO-SIGN. DO NOT BEND"
"If you have to lose a friend, or friends over this, that's the price to pay. Just because you may have more money does not mean you are obligated to help people make major life purchases."
"Your friends are massively entitled" - UncleStumpy78
"NTA! DO NOT CO-SIGN THIS MORTGAGE! She won't be homeless as she can always rent or share. You are being manipulated and your so called friends are complicit in this."
"Stand strong, tell this person in no uncertain terms that you WILL NOT sign and say that is the end of the matter. Steel yourself for tantrums, arguments, pleading and having your name dragged through the mud."
"I beg you, DON'T SIGN! This has disaster written all over it."
"Best of luck, stay strong and you are definitely NTA!" - DE4NO
"This is a clear NTA."
"If she has enough to pay a mortgage she has enough to pay rent and won't be homeless."
"Conversely, if she can't play rent then she can't pay a mortgage, and will ruin your finances."
"If your friends give you shit, tell them that! 'If she'll be homeless unless I help her, then it's not co-signing, it's giving her a house!'"
ETA: 'I don't know how much money you think I have, but it's not enough to do this.'" - bethsophia
"NTA - I didn't even need to read it, but once I did you're really NTA. If she can't qualify on her income, how is she supposed to afford the payments?"
"You would be on the hook for this, if she stopped paying you would need to pay or eventually have a foreclosure show up on your credit." - Particular-Earth-453
The other commenters thought of another angle. Thinking about banks at their worst as places that will try to make money, they have a reason they won't approve the friend.
If they think she won't pay, they won't lend.
"NTA. Co-signers often wind up paying off the loan they co-sign. Unless you want to buy your 'friend' a home - don't." - zwergschnauzer
"Banks are very good at making money. If a bank refuses a loan to someone it's because someone a lot more financially intelligent than you looked at their finances and thought 'there is no money to be made here'." - DimiBlue
"NTA. 'The bank says I'm not qualified to borrow money. Oh btw, sign here, so I can borrow the money anyway.'" - omgreadtheroom
"If the bank thinks she can't pay back the loan, what justification can she give him that they're wrong? They've got a lot more experience determining this than he does."
"Anyway NTA, never cosign a loan for something you won't own." – vezozuma
OP can rest assured that the internet doesn't think he would be wrong to refuse, but he should consider what will happen with his friend.
But if they're willing to end a friendship over this, maybe OP is better off without this friend.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.