Relationships come in all shapes and sizes, and it's totally up to the people in that relationship what will make them happy and what will work for them.
But sometimes their families don't feel the same way, cringed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor Crafty-Apartment-754 was white and was married to a Chinese woman who had moved to the United States when she was a teenager. He noticed that his sister had a terrible habit of riddling their visits with problematic jokes and strained political discussion.
But when she told him an incredibly offensive joke at her birthday party, the Original Poster (OP) had no choice but to shut the joke down, even if it meant being blamed for ruining his sister's birthday celebration.
He asked the sub:
"AITA for leaving a birthday party because of a racist translation request?"
The OP and his wife came from very different families and histories.
"I went to a birthday party for Annie, my sister (34 Female). I (36 Male) and my wife (36 Female) went as we were able to get her parents to watch the boy (our 16-month-old son)."
"It was a normal adult birthday party as Annie has no kids. She had some of her friends over as well as our parents. I'm white and all of my family is white (important for the story)."
"My wife is Chinese, was born in China, and became a citizen when she and her family moved to the United States when she was 16."
"She's 100% a US citizen, has no green card, and she and all of her family speak Mandarin. My wife can speak English very well but her family, mostly elders, don't speak a lick of it."
The OP was enjoying learning his wife's family's native language, Mandarin.
"I've been learning Mandarin as it's my wife's cultural language, it's cool as f**k, and I want the boy (and future children) to be able to speak both of our languages."
"It's been about two and a half years, and I'm not very conversational yet, but I pick up on a lot of things, can understand the basic gist of most conversations, and I can speak basic sentences like, 'Is the food hot?' or 'The boy's diaper has been changed,' etc."
"I've also been learning how to read and write Mandarin. I mostly read right now as I find it helps me learn better, and I sometimes drop cool sentences into the Family Chat on Facebook."
"Annie doesn't speak very much in it but will post Fox articles, usually articles about China that are very critical of the government."
"I'm not sure if she's racist against Chinese people. She's never said anything negative to my wife in any way."
But Annie then took her behavior much too far.
"So last night, we were at the dinner table when Annie handed me a slip of paper."
"I asked what it was as I unwrapped it. It said, 'Tiananmen Square 1989 (the protests and massacre in Bejing).'"
"I looked up at her, and she had this dumb grin on her face."
"I asked her what this was for, and she said, 'Can you translate that into Mandarin?'"
"Dumbfounded, I asked her why, and she brushed it off and flippantly said she was 'just curious.'"
The OP didn't think his sister's request was funny at all.
"This is where people seem to think I'm the a**hole. I got really freakin' mad."
"I immediately started yelling, called her a racist, and said we were leaving."
"My Mom and Dad got mad, Annie said I was being dramatic, and her friends (all of whom are also white) didn't see what the big deal was."
"I basically told everybody off, using very big adult words before leaving."
Everyone except the OP's wife lashed out at him.
"My phone started blowing up with text messages saying, 'You're not even Chinese, what the h**l,' and 'You ruined Annie's birthday party.'"
"I briefly spoke to my Mom this morning where I tried to explain why what she did was racist, targeted towards me and my family, and how it is unacceptable behavior."
"I told my Mom that I wouldn't be going to the house anymore if she was there and that she needed help to work through her beliefs."
"My Mom softly echoed what my sister said about being curious."
"With all these text messages, I'm not sure anymore if I overreacted. My wife was unaffected by the whole thing but understands why I'd be upset."
"I'm still getting text messages and it's making me more upset to read them."
"I don't know... am I the a**hole for reacting this way?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some were grateful to the OP for speaking up against racism, even if it was a "joke."
"Hi OP, your wife isn't unaffected; she is just used to it. My dad is Chinese, my mom is white, and my mother used to make racist jokes about my dad's family, as well as me and my brother all the time."
"She was always 'just joking.' He never said anything, just resented the h**l out of her. Me and my brother internalized it and became self-hating hapas. So much therapy. Many bad dye jobs trying to make myself look more white-passing."
"I finally called her out on it years later in front of her side of the family and my dad. I let them all know how harmful it was."
"My dad told me they just don't know any better. I called bulls**t. Haven't heard a peep since."
"I say all that to say this: good on you for not letting your family's 'harmless' racism hurt your wife and kids."
"There's a really great book called 'Nonviolent Communication.' There are always copies on eBay for less than 10 bucks. Or there's this worksheet that basically breaks down the skill for addressing this in interpersonal relationships. That could help you feel more comfortable with tough conversations like these."
"Honestly, my mom was a product of her time (an explanation, not an excuse). If anything her bullying prepared me with thick skin for dealing with racist bullying at school. And now I'm working toward being a child psych nurse practioner. so it wasn't in vain. We can make meaning out of our suffering."
"That said, definitely show your son that he does not have to tolerate that bulls**t, that he's not less of a man because he's Asian." - nolothx
"NTA. As a half-Chinese person myself, thank you. Sincerely, thank you. I can't tell you how many people would say racist s**t like that to me and my dad (the not-Chinese one) and expect us to be perfectly fine with it, since 'we're not really Chinese.'"
"Your sister is a racist bully, and your parents are enablers. Same as my dad's family. My mom doesn't really get it either but trusts our judgment. Keep your wife and future children far, far, away from them." - PurpleFlavoredCherry
"NTA. As someone Chinese, thank you for standing up for your wife. I would be insulted and humiliated by what your sister did." - tweetthebirdy
"NTA. Thank you for sticking up for your wife. This sounds like a bullying atmosphere is forming around your outsider wife, and you noticed it and stood by her now that it is becoming more and more overt."
"You might want to present your family members with a little thought experiment:"
"You're a US-born, white person in China, where you've lived for many years and have integrated very well, attending a big family dinner with your Chinese spouse. Present at the dinner is your spouse's sister, who has always said critical things about the United States and always made sure you were around to hear these unprompted, uncalled-for opinions."
"She's never said a bad thing to you, personally. During this dinner, she asks your bilingual spouse, with a giant grin on her face, to translate a note into English. The note just says '9/11.' How would you feel? How do you think the person who wrote the note wanted you to feel? Is this joke going to make you feel more like a part of the family?"
"It sounds like you might also want to clarify to your family members that you've noticed this attitude of mild hostility and petty mockery, and your outburst isn't just motivated by this off-color 'joke.' As your family pretends to see it, you got mad because they made one joke, but you see an overall pattern."
"Also, don't take your wife's polite neutrality as the arbiter of your feelings. She might not say she was hurt, but there was hurtful intent behind your sister's behavior and you're valid in feeling angered by it." - Formadivix
"NTA. S**t, dude, you're a stellar partner from an intercultural competency lens and it's a bumpy moment when you realize other family and loved ones just aren't putting in even the minimum amount of work."
"Keep being a good ally and don't gauge how appropriate your response is solely on your wife's response. She's unfortunately now used to probably much worse and probably appreciates more than she knows how to express that she has someone to stand beside her as she faces these moments and speak up so she doesn't have to." - xSinistress
Others agreed but were concerned by how problematic and racist the OP's family was.
"NTA and you did not overreact. Annie is playing racist games, and doing it with the s**t-eating 'who me?' grin of so many racist dips**ts."
"Unless your wife is secretly a member of the Chinese government, it is absurd to think that writing that down and giving it to you for translation into Mandarin is anything other than a provocation."
"Good for you for telling her off, you set an acceptable boundary and she will at least think twice about subversively insulting your wife and family." - RJRoyalRules
"NTA. What the f**k was even her point in giving you that paper and asking you to speak it out loud?"
"Did she think your wife, whose family had a reason to leave their country and come to the USA, would be slighted by it?"
"This isn't even a microaggression, this is a microaggression, and I applaud you for standing by your wife and future children (they will have to face this same ignorance from your family when they get older)." - StellarPhenom420
"You DO realize you don't have just a racist sister problem, right? Your mom 'softly' (racist) 'echoed' (racist) your RACIST sister. Everyone who is texting you, telling you you're the A.H. and still wants to support your RACIST sister is also a RACIST."
"Your wife isn't unaffected, she's just used to the racist microaggressions and so she chooses her battles. She probably waiting till some future event that could occur that will emotionally harm your son to finally tell you to cut off your racist a** family or she wants a divorce."
"NTA. But you've got a racist family problem and you better decide where to draw the line in cement and not f**king cross it." - _parenda_
"I think some people in this thread are missing the point. It's not that it's racist to discuss Tiananmen Square. It was her writing just that on a piece of paper and asking you to translate it with a grin on her face."
"She was stirring s**t. She was being obnoxious and targeting either your wife or you for your Chinese wife. Or both."
"NTA. A**holery doesn't get a birthday pass." - HoshiJones
"For context, the Tiananmen Square 1989 massacre is a big debate among the Chinese because the Chinese government killed protestors that day and it's banned on Chinese chat systems like WeChat. Any mention of it will be auto-censored. Most Chinese nationals I know feel strongly against the Chinese government and its take on free speech, which is why they leave."
"You said your wife understands and speaks English well since she's been in the country as a teen. I have no idea why your sister wanted you to translate it. She could have just had an adult conversation and asked your wife about it if she was curious to know your wife's stance on it."
"But asking you to translate it and knowing her history of forwarding Fox articles, it's 99% from a xenophobic POV. She ruined her own party by mentioning the Chinese Communist Party. The only party pooper here is her. Also, the translation would be a tad meaningless if OP did translate it directly cos Chinese nationals know the massacre as June Fourth."
"She wanted it to be controversial and embarrass your wife for sure. I am guessing she assumed your wife's political stance would be leaning towards the Chinese government just because of her original nationality, and that is really xenophobic behavior that should not be tolerated."
"NTA. Your sister is. Limit contact until she learns to be a nicer person. Your family, too, if they're going to keep backing her up. Good on you for standing up for your wife, OP!" - Regular-Highway-1776
The subReddit was overwhelmingly disgusted by the OP's sister's behavior, as well as the OP's defense of her actions. Not only did he do the right thing by putting down a racist joke, but he did what any ally should do, which is to protect those who feel unsafe or uncomfortable to do so.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.