Many people dream of getting married, having kids, and having a huge family. It's a dream fostered by Hallmark movies and romantic tales that get everyone feeling nostalgic.
But we often fail to think of the possibility that everyone may not get along as well as we might have hoped to give us that picture-perfect life, cringed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor kthrowaway244 had been in a strained relationship with her family ever since she announced that she was engaged to a man who they did not approve of, but her relationship with them became infinitely more complicated when she had her first baby.
When they threatened to end all contact if she did not give them what they wanted, the Original Poster (OP) wondered if she needed to be more flexible or to draw a firmer boundary with them.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for refusing to go on a ten-hour-plus flight with my baby?"
The OP had a strained relationship with her parents because of her husband.
"Long story short, my parents hate my husband. But because I am their child, they accepted him 'for my happiness.' For context, my mom was fine with him until my dad found out (I told my mom first)."
"It's not like he's a bad person. My parents just had someone else in mind."
"Anyway, my parents moved back to where we're from while I stayed behind, and I eventually met my husband. We've been dating since we were 19, and we kept our relationship a secret from my parents for years until he proposed to me."
Things became more complicated when the OP had her first child.
"Now, I just gave birth to our first child and obviously my parents want to meet him."
"The thing is, they live nowhere near North America, and the flight would be miserable. I hate flying in general, but with a baby? I get anxious thinking about it."
"I've put it off for a long time and even asked my parents if they could fly over (we'd pay for everything), but they said it was disrespectful for me to even ask."
"I've been stuck between 'Fine, we'll come,' and 'No I can't do this,' and it's affecting my whole life."
"My mom calls me twice a day just to remind me that I have to come and that she wants to see her grandbaby before he gets too big."
"I finally came to the conclusion that I can't. He's a fussy baby and needs to be held by me a lot. He lets his dad hold him for a couple hours, but then he won't stop crying until I hold him."
"I can't do that on a plane. And I'm terrified of the reaction he might have since he does make a lot of noise."
"If it was a shorter flight, I could make do, but it would be over 10 hours. I'm exhausted just thinking about it, and then I have to deal with my parents and their passive-aggressive comments daily."
The OP set a boundary, but it had serious consequences.
"I called my mom and told her that we won't be coming."
"She got very angry and kept ranting about my husband keeping us away from them."
"She eventually said, 'Forget it, we don't want to see his child. Don't call us again.'"
"My aunt (who I don't talk to) said that she's very upset with me and my mom has been so excited to see the baby but we crushed her."
"Apparently, my dad doesn't even want to see the baby, but my mom really does (but she refuses to travel without him), which is why she's been pushing me so hard."
"I feel bad because I know how much my mom adores babies, and I get she's in a tough spot, but I can't fly for over 10 hours with a four-month-old."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that she was NTA and her parents were being unreasonable.
"Omg (Oh my god), girl. NTA. You said that you would pay for everything. Repeat that to your mother if necessary."
"And even if you wouldn't pay for their tickets, you're at most an ESH, but you are also a recent mother for god's sake, and you shouldn't be put under that much stress when there's a much easier option." - Ok-Schedule9947
"Your aunt said, 'My mom has been so excited to see the baby but we crushed her.' Don't be fooled by that bulls**t. Your mother is selfish and manipulative. If she really wanted to see your child, she'd get on a plane without creating drama."
"I'm sorry to say that I don't think that she is THAT concerned about seeing your child; she just wants to look like a good grandma. A truly loving grandmother would not want her precious grandbaby on a germy plane, much less put pressure on you to come. A truly loving grandma would get on the plane herself, without grandpa, and come to spend time with your child."
"I suspect that your father might come along if she made reservations for herself. Something about this makes me suspect that he is one of those retro guys who doesn't cook or do his own laundry."
"You have your own darling family now, OP. Don't let your parents' toxicity extend to another generation. If their whining and manipulative behavior bothers you too much, get some therapy to help you deal with it. NTA." - Swedishpunsch
"NTA, OP, and I give you permission to not feel bad about any of this."
"I'm sorry if your culture is making you feel poorly. You're allowed to just be a mom and a wife. There's no rule in the universe that says you have to bend over backward to continue being a daughter. Raise your kid and live your life." - Happy_Laugh_Cry
"'But they said it was disrespectful for me to even ask.' Bulls**t. They don't want to be inconvenienced. I wouldn't take my newborn on a flight that long, it would be miserable and really hard on the child. Think of all the germs you'd be exposing your child to!"
"NTA."
"If I were you, I'd stipulate if they want to see the baby, they have to do the traveling. It is disrespectful to you for them to demand you put your child's health at risk just because they imagine some slight that doesn't exist. They aren't reasonable. Period." - IamIrene
"I'm working on figuring this out... your parents brought you to North America, then left you and moved somewhere else? Have you ever asked if they considered that you might not choose to move to wherever they live and they might not see you anymore?"
"You are NTA. Baby doesn't need to be on an airplane for 10 hours and then in a totally different time zone for however long your stay lasts then back on a plane. There are just so many reasons, like differences in food and water while you are gone."
"The pressure changes during the flights are hard on their ears and sinuses. Unless you are able to fly non-stop every landing and take-off makes it worse. Then all the germs in the air, dehydration, besides the issues that they don't understand what is happening and are miserable."
"I don't fly unless I absolutely have to. The last time I flew across the US, I was sick for three weeks with a miserable upper respiratory infection I caught on the plane."
"Then there are all the possible infections from the baby being exposed to everyone you encounter on the trip. In grad school, I took microbiology classes, one of my professors said that babies shouldn't go anywhere for at least six months because their immune systems need to develop. Keep your baby healthy, stay home!"
"Hard on you, harder on the baby. Your mother said don't call again. I am sure this hurts, but take her at her word for now." - ArreniaQ
Others agreed but also thought the OP could have handled the situation better.
"ESH."
"You're NTA for not being comfortable with this and asking your parents to fly over instead (why are you even offering to pay for that?)."
"But you ARE the a**hole for letting your husband take the fall and even allowing the disrespect towards him. Why does your mother blame him? You clearly haven't been honest about your reasons for not flying."
"Furthermore, why did you start the post explaining that your parents hate him? It must be a pretty big topic..."
"If my parents showed ongoing hate towards my chosen life partner, I would tell them to suck it up and show some respect or don't expect a relationship with me." - Cool-Scallion4573
"ESH."
"You let your parents put down your husband so badly, and yet you're still considering traveling ten hours with a four-month-old to see them?"
"Focus on your child and partner, the family you get to build, love, and cherish. Prioritizing anything beyond them is going against what it is to be a mother and wife (and vice versa for your husband if he were in this situation)." - WealthAndTheRest
"ESH. It is like you are purposely seeking out drama. Why are you talking to your mom twice a day anyway? Especially if she is being critical of you? Cut the freaking cord already."
"Tell them if they'd like to meet the baby, you'll be happy to see them when they visit; otherwise, they need to drop it. If they can't drop it, stop talking to them until they do. Problem solved."
"The reason you are also the AH is because of how easily avoidable and preventable this is. You enjoy it. You desire it. Otherwise, you just wouldn't do it. You are upset over an aunt you don't even talk to. Stop taking her calls. Talk about manufacturing drama." - Ok-Number-8097
"I was gonna say NTA but I decided YTA. There's a lot to be had here. Did you consider your family's feelings before marrying out of country? You knew that would separate one family or another and you still did it. So your parents are not wrong for feeling frustrated by that."
"Then you won't even have the courtesy to TRY sitting with your baby for 10 hours. This is a controversial take, I'm assuming, but it really seems like you haven't made loving decisions towards your parents based on this post." - chewbaccaccino
"YTA to yourself. You know what's right for you, but you're ignoring your inner knowing because you care too much about pleasing others, especially your mom." - QMC2023
While the subReddit could understand the conflicted feelings the OP had about this situation, they reassured her that she didn't need to feel bad for having reservations about a ten-hour flight with her baby to see parents who were deeply critical of her husband and potentially her baby.
Some felt that the OP could handle the situation a little better by trying to work out a different compromise than what had already been discussed, but most found the parents to be overwhelmingly unreasonable.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.