Family traditions are sacred. When you start dating someone, it is fun to let them participate in your quirky family traditions.
But, what if the tradition is just too weird to actually participate in?
Redditor orangetradition encountered this very issue with their boyfriend's family. So they turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for moral judgment.
They asked:
"AITA for refusing to participate in my boyfriend's family's bizarre orange tradition?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained.
"My boyfriend (bf) and I have been together a while now but I hadn't met his family until a week ago when they invited us to stay at their house. I was very excited to meet his parents for the first time and they were super sweet when I got there."
"Both of them are lovey people and we all got along well."
"They gave us free rein to do whatever but the one thing they insisted on was that we join them for their tradition of eating oranges as a family on Saturday mornings. They grow their own oranges and have been doing this since my bf was a kid so he was especially thrilled to share the tradition with me as a 'rite of passage'."
But, the tradition had a twist.
"So the morning came and his mom brought in some fresh oranges from the garden. We sat at the table and I was getting ready to peel my orange when I saw my bf's mom BITE into her orange like it was an apple!!!"
"With the peel still on!!! I was so stunned when I saw my bf and his dad do the same thing with their oranges, as if it were totally normal."
"I guess they noticed my shock because they asked me why I wasn't eating. So I started to peel my orange but then his mom told me to stop, that I was eating it wrong and had to bite into it with the skin to 'get the full experience'."
"I politely told her that I like to peel my oranges and I'm sure they taste just as great either way but she kept insisting that I had to bite into my orange for tradition."
"After saying multiple times that I'd rather peel it and the family (including bf) pushing back, I put the orange back on the table and said though I appreciate the gesture, I personally feel uncomfortable eating oranges that way and I'd rather not participate."
That caused a strain with OP's boyfriend.
"Things were tense after that and we left the next day. When we got home, my boyfriend chewed me out for being rude and embarrassing him and his family."
"He said I should've just eaten the orange 'the right way' since his parents were gracious to let me stay with them."
"I can see his point and I apologized for causing any hurt (I really do like his family and think they're great people) but stand by my decision to opt out of the orange tradition."
"He feels I could've compromised and I feel that I should be able to eat things how I want. It's a silly squabble in the grand scheme of things but my boyfriend and I are really at odds about who's in the wrong and would love an outside opinion."
OP added some edits to their story.
"Some people have been asking what kind of oranges/whether they're actually oranges. All I can say is that I was told they were oranges and they looked like typical oranges with thick skin."
"Here's a photo of the trees in their backyard from a few years back, for anyone who wants to see for themselves."
"Lots of frequently asked questions so I'll just answer them here."
"No, they don't just bite into it once to make it easier to peel. They don't peel the oranges at all."
"They eat the whole thing—fruit, skin, and pith—like one would eat an apple. Yes, it is messy. Yes, the skin is thick."
"The tradition involves eating the entire orange like that, not just a bite. I do recognize that I could've surrendered a bite to keep the peace."
"This is the first time I've seen my boyfriend eat an orange. He never ate them with me as he would say that nothing compares to his parents' oranges."
"He has seen me, our friends, and people in TV shows/movies eat peeled oranges. I assume the same goes for his parents."
"My boyfriend has never commented before on the common peeling technique."
"His parents do this EVERY Saturday. I am not sure how they eat their oranges on other days, but I imagine it's the same."
"The whole family is expected to participate every Saturday when at the parents' house, but I don't have to do it in my own home."
"The reason I didn't try one bite is mostly because I was caught so off guard since all my boyfriend told me was that we were going to eat oranges. He didn't let me know about the method in advance so I panicked."
"That and the insistence that I eat the ENTIRE fruit the way they wanted me to turned me off of trying it. I might be open to trying it in the future."
"I think that covers it!"
Redditors gave their opinions on the situation by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
Most Redditors agreed OP was not the a**hole.
"I like how we're all just calmly answering this like it isn't some crazy cartoon bullsh*t."
"Nobody eats oranges peel and all. I mean f'k, they peel into individual sections that are damn near bite sized...I literally cannot imagine why you would do this in the first place."
"Have you considered the possibility that they are just f'king with you? Idk if I would be mad or impressed by the commitment."
"But for real...NTA. No one gets to tell you HOW to eat things."
"That's loony tunes. And your response was really respectful. Stand up for yourself!" ~ Allchemyst
The OP responded:
"Tbh I kinda thought they were f'king with me at first and was really surprised when they kept insisting? They seemed pretty serious."
"I'm fascinated with their dedication to the tradition and wouldn't have minded hearing more about it if they hadn't tried to rope me in. I get the people who slice the orange first and then eat the peel but seeing it eaten like an apple was surreal not going to lie."
Redditors wondered about the mess.
"It's a soft fruit....didn't the juice just go everywhere? Also did it all stay together?"
"I feel like at a certain point it would have to fall apart unless you take bites in specific places....did they eat all the way through the middle and just leave the top and bottom to throw out?"
"I have so many goddamn questions about this. It's going to haunt me."
"I'm not 100% sure you're not f'king with us. But if you are a troll you are by far the most entertaining one I've dealt with so I'm still here for it." ~ Allchemyst
The OP replied again.
"It was as messy as you're probably imagining and the oranges eventually ended up collapsing and then they had to eat it in smaller chunks anyway."
"And lol not a troll but I recognize that this situation is ridiculous enough for people to think that."
One Redditor argued there was more to the story.
"I eat kiwis unpeeled because the skin isn't a separate part of the structure of the fruit (see also: grapes). But I don't eat the ends of the kiwi, they're only partially separate from the fruit, tough, and look pretty gnarly."
"I'm a therapist, so things on AITA that catch my attention are usually behavioral, and this post is no different - the eating of the oranges is highly ritualized and compulsory."
"It's also not associated with any religious practice, which would still not explain the weird behavior, but would explain the ritual way it practiced, it being compulsory, and it being foisted into non-family."
"(I'm not trying to attack religion, it's precisely because I'm religious that I say that. I'm Jewish and we do some crazy sh*t.)"
"The other thing that's weird is that they give no reason for the 'ritual', no story as to why and how they started it. Most family traditions have a story behind them."
"They just treat OP as being strange for not being willing to perform a highly unusual and unpalatable with zero explanation."
"The only thing weirder than how they eat oranges is the compulsory, ritualized behavior that has no origin story." ~ rbaltimore
It's okay to eat whatever you want, however you want. Just don't force anyone to follow suit.















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.