Our birthday is arguably the one annual day when we can justify feeling special and being the center of attention.
With that in mind, it's very easy to feel vulnerable on our birthday, no matter how old we are getting.
As even the slightest thing could make us feel down.
Or if something goes terribly wrong, we might feel ourselves getting unjustifiably angry.
Redditor ProgressDependent703 recently suffered a devastating loss.
Unfortunately, the original poster (OP)'s loss occurred on her husband's birthday.
While the OP hoped she might get some sympathy and support from her husband, he instead claimed that she "ruined" his birthday.
Leading the OP to offer him some choice words in exchange.
Concerned she might have been out of line, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where she asked fellow Redditors:
"AITAH for calling my husband a disgrace after he said my miscarriage ruined his birthday?"
The OP shared how her husband's birthday turned into an unceremonious day for everyone:
"I miscarried yesterday afternoon about 12pm."
"I've never had a miscarriage before and this baby was so wished for so it's all so fresh and I'm sobbing right now so I apologize in advance if it doesn't make a whole lot of sense."
"My husband turned 27 yesterday."
"I, 26 F[emale], was pregnant with mine and my husband's, 27 M[ale], 2nd child."
"Yesterday, I was 8 weeks pregnant."
"The day before yesterday we saw a beautiful heart beat flicking on the screen and today I'm devastated."
"I was playing with our 2 year old when I felt a pressure in my lower abdomen."
"Not long later, I noticed bleeding and I let my husband know immediately that I had discomfort and bleeding."
"Before long I had passed what I believe is the fetus and I messaged him 'I think I lost the baby'."
"I wanted to keep him updated and I guess I was seeking some kind of emotional support."
"I asked if he could come home and he said 'of course, if it's urgent'."
"I said I think it is because the pain and bleeding is getting worse and I'm starting to feel lightheaded and our 2 year old is unattended in his playroom right now."
"We have no friends or family near that I could call who would get to us quicker than he could."
"I had to clean myself up, crawl down stairs to take paracetamol, make my son his lunch and then put him down for a nap."
"At this point my husband still isn't home."
"He was working approx 30 mins away and took closer to 60 mins to get back."
"Hours later when I asked, it was because he'd stopped at Tesco to pick up some beers."
"I ended up very poorly, losing lots of blood, lightheaded, vomiting etc and he had to take me to A&E."
"By the time I was discharged it was almost 8pm."
"Last week, I had said I'd make him his favorite dinner for his birthday which he reminded me when we were almost home."
"I said I wasn't feeling up to it and that whatever takeaway he wants is on me."
"He said 'for f*ck sake' under his breath and then muttered something along the lines of 'this bullsh*t has ruined my birthday'."
"He didn't stop to get any takeaway."
"He just drove straight home."
"He put our son to bed and I went to bed and I'm not sure what he did after."
"I didn't see him this morning as he had already left for work."
"He's not messaged me all day and he got home a few hours ago (it's now 8. 40pm) and he's been giving me silent treatment."
"I tried to speak to him about an hour or so ago and he ignored me and I called him a disgrace."
"He slammed the bedroom door and locked me out of the bedroom."
"His mum has since messaged me and said I need to be patient as he's also had a loss."
"She didn't ask how I was or anything."
"He's obviously speaking to his mum but why isn't he opening up and speaking to me?"
"She said I was harsh?"
"I'm feeling utterly emotionally neglected right now."
"My body has been through emotional and physical hell."
"I understand that my miscarriage came at a f*cking inconvenient time for him as it was his birthday and all."
"I'm not sure if it's the hormones making me feel crazy but is it nuts to contemplate divorce?"
"AITAH for calling him a disgrace?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation, by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
The Reddit community firmly agreed that the OP was not the a**hole for calling her husband a disgrace.
Everyone agreed that the OP's husband bordered on unforgivable, and if the OP filed for divorce, she was more than justified in doing so.
"IMPORTANT."
"You are still at risk of infection at this juncture."
"It's still dangerous for you."
"Monitor your bleeding and temperature."
"Your marriage is over."
"How long you stay with him is up to you."
"But this man is neither husband nor father material."
"He cares more about his wants than your or your child's needs."
"It took a crisis like this to show who he really is."
"NTA."
"I'm so sorry you are going through all this."- MistySky1999
"He's lucky all you did was call him a disgrace."
"I'd be calling him my ex-husband."
"He knows his son is home alone with you and he stops for beer?"
"It's one thing if he cannot leave work or cannot leave immediately."
"He chose to make a needless stop."
"Then you lost a lot of blood and were just all around in a bad way and he says it ruined his birthday?"
"He wants you to cook?"
"You said that BEFORE you lost the baby."
"Before you had to go to the hospital for losing lots of blood."
"The lack of care is so shocking."
"Take the time to heal."
"You still might want to reconsider this marriage."
"I know it would be over for me."
"I highly doubt this is the only time he's shown this complete disregard for your well being."
"And, obvious NTA!"
"Sorry for your loss."- fancyandfab
"First off, I am so so sorry for your loss."
"You are NTA at all and it upsets me that you are even questioning it."
"You went through something painful, heartbreaking, scary and life threatening."
"Your husband just showed you how little he cares for you and your child."
'What would have happened if you had fainted and injured yourself?"
"Or died because he stopped for beer?"
"What if your child got hurt or needed help and you were too weak?"
"You were having a medical emergency alone with a young child."
"And. He. Stopped. For. Beer."
"If I were his mother I would be consoling you and helping you after I completely eviscerated him for being such a disgrace."
"They are both massive AH's and you deserve so much more."- Vast_Responsibility6
"NTA."
"WHAT THE F*CK Your husband is a monster and even if he's also grieving were I in your shoes, there would be no coming back from this."
"You just had a F*CKING MISCARRIAGE and he's pouting because his birthday was ruined and stopped to get beers before coming home to attend to you?"
"Does he even help take care of the child you have now?"
"You need support and he's giving you the silent treatment for not making his favorite dinner after what was it?"
"Oh, right HAVING A MISSCARRIAGE."
"Leave his a**."- burner_suplex
"NTA."
"But I think losing the MIL and husband is a nice course of action here."- Agreeable_Pumpkin_37
"NTA."
"OP, I'm usually not one to jump immediately to divorce, but this is an exception."
"Miscarriages are dangerous."
"You can hemorrhage."
"If you don't pass all the tissue, you can develop sepsis."
"Miscarriage complications could not only render you infertile if left untreated, they can be fatal."
"This isn't even getting into the mental and emotional distress."
"Your health could have been in serious danger, and he stops for beer on the way?"
"He cares more about partying than the health and wellbeing of who is supposed to be his life partner."
"The ONLY appropriate responses from him should have been 'I'm on my way NOW and I'm not stopping' or 'I'm calling an ambulance for you and meeting you at the hospital'."
"Full stop."- Sweaty_Item_3135
"NTA."
"Your spouse lacks a lot of emotional coping skills and maturity."
"You were in medicial danger."
"His birthday is second to that."
"Not to mention running to Mommy about private issues in his marriage."
"I'd say get counseling if you want an actual husband in this marriage."
"NTA."-HotPizzaMilk
There's no denying that this was anything but a happy birthday for the OP's husband.
However, the fact that that's all he could focus on after everything the OP went through is, indeed, fairly disgraceful behavior.
It's safe to say he needn't worry about the OP "ruining" his birthday next year.
As chances are, she will likely no longer be his wife...
Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp