Whether we enjoy being around children or not, we've likely all met at least one child who was difficult, if not impossible, to be around.
From the volume of their voices to the number of items they unapologetically break, it's exhausting, agreed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor Educational-Aide-572 was struggling to enjoy inviting her niece and nephew to her home because her nephew had a long history of intentionally destroying her property.
When her brother called her out for excluding her nephew, the Original Poster (OP) decided to make it clear where her reservations were coming from.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for sending my brother a list of every item of ours that my nephew ruined?"
The OP's nephew had a bad habit of destroying other people's things.
"For context, I (25 Female) have a niece (Bella, 7 Female) and a nephew (Michael, 10 Male). They're my brother Alex's kids. I love them both but I have a much closer relationship with Bella."
"Michael is a good kid, but he is a ticking time bomb. He is absolutely uncontrollable. I'm his aunt and I love him, but I really can't have him around for long."
"The last time he was in our house, he poured my nail polish collection onto my wife's favorite silk Persian carpet. And that isn't even one percent of the damage he has done."
Michael's behavior was impacting the OP's relationship with the rest of the family.
"My wife (27 Female) and I recently bought a villa out of town. It has a game room, pool, and many things Bella adores."
"So we offered to give her a tour of the place and let her check out the rose garden there if Alex and his wife agreed."
"Alex said either both Michael and Bella were to be included or none of them were going."
"My wife and I both insisted on only taking Bella, but he was not having it, so we said we would just go by ourselves."
This latest arrangement led to a serious argument.
"Alex got really mad at us and said it was disgusting that we favored Bella because she was a girl and that we were both hypocritical and unfair to Michael, and never included him in our plans."
"I told my brother that Michael was an uncontrollable kid."
"He had the audacity to ask what Michael had done."
"I told him I'd let him know (I've told him the items over the years as it happened but he always said it was an accident and that Michael's a boy and boys play rough)."
The OP decided not to hold back on the list of damages.
"I made a table including every item my nephew damaged in our house and the estimated cost."
"It included a few of my wife's antique vases, her glass statue of the Eiffel Tower, Persian carpet, several of my wife's crystal decorative items, and two phones (he flushed them down the toilet). Even the mirror of my car. I sent the list to Alex."
"He is now extremely angry with me and thinks I am being an arrogant person, and taking after my wife's trait of being an uptight rich kid."
"I am not talking to him at the moment."
"Was what I did AH territory?"
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some understood the OP's concerns and thought the nephew needed assistance.
"NTA. This is out-of-control impulsivity. Michael needs a proper evaluation by a professional. This sounds like ADHD and possibly ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder) on top of it. OT (Occupational Therapy) changed my son's life after we finally got passed the 'he's just a high-strung little boy' and got a proper diagnosis."
"If your brother and SIL keep ignoring the issue, I would pull a YTA thing and call the school and issue an anonymous complaint about his behavior. Hearing there may be a problem from a professional and not his sister may be an eye-opener. This could be Michael crying for help and not knowing or understanding how else to do it." - gingerred81
"The stupid sexist 'boys play it rough' apart, flushing two phones down the loo, and spilling a WHOLE COLLECTION of nail polish on a carpet are by no means results of 'playing it rough.' These are deliberate attempts to cause harm."
"OP, NTA in relation to the kid, and YTA just to yourself and your wife for not resolving it earlier."
"It seems that this kid has been behaving inappropriately for quite a long time and you did not say anything to your brother until now. I hope you at least said something to the kid when he flushed the phone to make him know these things are NOT DONE:"
"I'd bet you hate this kid, I definitely would. It may not be his fault but that of your brother's bad parenting but I wouldn't want to be around him much if he behaves that way." - Prangelina
"NTA."
"While I understand your brother's point about both kids or none, and I generally tend to agree in most cases, this is not the same."
"So long as you're not leaving out any damages your niece has done, this clearly isn't about a gender preference. This is more of an actions have consequences situation. While it might feel unfair to Michael, this is the opportunity for his parents to teach him to behave better in other people's homes. I also don't think it would be fair for the niece to be denied things due to her brother's behavior."
"Also, people need to be more realistic in life. Don't ask a question you don't truly want the answer to or can't handle the answer to. As well, you can love your kids and still understand where they may have faults. Instead of ignoring there's a problem, work to fix it." - petty_penny_pincher
"NTA. The key takeaway is that he's not your child."
"It sounds like you and your wife have chosen a child-free lifestyle, which is fine. Because of that decision, you and your wife live a particular way, which is also fine."
"What's not fine is a grown adult expecting someone else to ignore their child's bad behavior. Especially when said child is destroying your property."
"Children that grow up without consequences struggle as adults in society." - HippieFarmer22
"NTA, if someone's kid ruins your stuff that person should replace the destroyed item. No questions asked."
"My concern for your nephew is worth noting. Michael is being allowed to act inappropriately by his parents (or maybe just your brother?) and THAT is also favoring one child over the other. They are allowing him to act poorly because 'boys will be boys' so they are enabling that nonsense."
"Beyond that though, have they had Michael assessed for ADHD, behavioral issues, etc? There might be something there to find that could help him."
"I worry about the language Michael might be hearing as well. Saying he is 'uncontrollable' is saying he is 'bad,' and I highly doubt he is unaware of your feelings and I also highly doubt you're the only people who've said such things about/to him."
"This can be very damaging for a child. And while his behavior is not good, there is most definitely a reason for it that his parents haven't unearthed."
"Honestly, his parents are the A H in every sense here. To you (and anyone else who has damaged property from their son). But most importantly to their own kids: first to Michael because they are failing him by not getting to the source of his behavior and making it better for him, and secondly, to Bella as she most definitely sees and feels the inequities in how she and Michael are treated." - manonaca
Others were suspicious Michael behaved this way because of the OP's view of him.
"Possibly YTA."
"How is it that Bella is played out to be a perfect little angel while Michael is completely out of control, to the point where you are referring to this 10-year-old as 'a ticking time bomb'? How do you treat these kids when you're around them?"
"It sounds to me like you drastically favor Bella and have for a very long time, and that Michael knows it. The behavior Michael is displaying is right in line with a child trying desperately to reach out for attention. He's so unhinged that you can't keep him under control while guiding him through a new house...? But his sister is a perfect angel?"
"The dad denying Michael's behavior, and the fact that Bella is so well-behaved, has me highly suspicious that his outbursts are directly related to you and your treatment of him. Sounds to me like you don't like him so you don't pay attention to him when he's over, so he tries to make his own fun and ends up breaking stuff while you're doing something else." - bushpotatoe
"Didn't even have to finish reading to know YTA."
"You overtly favor your niece and snub your nephew. You sound like you need to go to therapy for your cruelty to BOTH of those kids. You have decided Bella is the golden child and that her brother isn't worth your time."
"Do you ever think that he acts out more around you because you ignore him? Do you think maybe you are excluding Michael because he is male? Maybe you should think about why you have labeled Micheal as the problem child instead of investing in a relationship with him."
"YTA. Just to be clear YTA. All day." - GolfSignal9401
"YTA for thinking you can invite one kid and not the other. That is not ok, regardless of the damage the one has done before. The reason for the kid's unruly behavior might be complex, and being excluded by another family could make it worse."
"NTA for making a list of damages done by a kid and sending it to a parent when you agreed to do this beforehand... However, I don't understand how you watch these kids since they're able to wreak so much havoc in front of you?" - FlowerOk3892
"Overall, I don't think YTA. However, I do understand why your brother was so angry about you insisting on leaving Michael behind and only taking Bella to see the Villa. For that reason alone, yes, YTA."
"Yes, Michael is destructive & while that's not acceptable behavior and should not be condoned, he is still just a child, and to blatantly leave him out will truly do some long-lasting damage."
"Also, if Michael is truly as much of a 'ticking time bomb' as you say he is, why isn't he supervised more closely? I just don't really understand how he has managed to break/ruin so many different items unless he is truly left by himself for a long enough period of time. That being said, he is ten, and he should be able to be left alone in a room for a short period of time without causing so much trouble."
"I would definitely ask your brother to sit down and have a serious conversation with you about your Nephew. I think if you come at it from an angle of concern rather than anger or frustration, it will go a little bit more smoothly. However, just know that your brother may react defensively at first because after all, that is his child, and he may feel like you're attacking Michael."
"If something can't be done to remedy the situation, perhaps you could spend time with Michael and Bella somewhere other than your home. (The park, arcade, etc.)" - Not-your-mom96
Everyone in the subReddit could understand the OP's frustrations with items being ruined, one after the next, when her nephew visited her home, but they were more divided on how the situation was being handled.
Most felt that Michael needed some form of evaluation to see if there were underlying causes for his behaviors, but some thought that favoritism could be playing a part, as well, between the OP and Bella, or even his parent's excusing his behavior with 'boys with be boys' talk.
No matter what the underlying issues were, it was clear that Michael needed more attention, whether it was specific attention that would help him learn new coping strategies or simply attention at all.















Expectant Dad Of Two Livid After Brother Questions Why He'd Bring Another Kid Into Bleak World
It's no secret that a lot of people are struggling right now, from the cost of living to job insecurity to food insecurity to poor housing. But that doesn't mean we have to stop living.
For many people, that means still starting and growing their families, while planning how to navigate the world we're currently in, pointed out the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor DesignerOwn1141 and his wife knew that the world around them wasn't at its best right now, but they were eager to grow their family and were excited to bring a third child into the world.
When they announced their pregnancy, his brother's first reaction was to send him articles about how the world was doomed and shame him for bringing a child into it; the Original Poster (OP) wondered if he needed to block his own brother.
He asked the sub:
The OP and his wife were excited to welcome a third child into their family.
"I am 33 and male. My wife is 29."
"We have two sons, a six-year-old boy and a three-year-old boy. Both are happy, healthy, and well taken care of."
"We love being parents to them, and I work very hard to provide a good life for my family."
"My wife is four months pregnant with our third."
The OP's brother's life was very different from his.
"My younger brother has been something of a failure-to-launch case."
"Despite having every advantage, he never got good grades in school, was addicted to 'League of Legends' so severely that he barely scraped by, and spends his days streaming games to nearly no viewers on Twitch."
"I've watched his stream a few times, but he just rages constantly."
"My wife is too classy to ever say so, but I can tell he makes her uncomfortable."
"He's my brother, so I've long wanted to believe he's just bad at communicating with people, but to be frank, he's sort of just an a**hole. He's unapologetic whenever he says something hurtful and more likely to just double down and say, 'No cap.'"
"But if anyone so much as challenges his views, he throws a huge fit."
The OP tried to share his happy news with his brother, but his brother immediately squandered it.
"Recently, we announced she was pregnant with our third child. It's a joyous occasion for us because we wanted three children, and our other two sons are excited about having another brother or sister."
"When I texted my brother the news, he immediately said he couldn't imagine having children with the world the way it was."
"I asked what he meant, and he started sending me these articles about global warming, the plague in Russia, wars around the world, and so on."
"He seems convinced that the world is going to end in ten years tops, and that I'm only bringing up another child to die in the 'water wars.'"
"I was honestly disgusted with him. To tell someone that their unborn child is going to die, that their other children are going to die, is absolutely abhorrent behavior."
"But since he's always been a sensitive s**thead, I just said, 'Whatever, man,' and stopped reading his texts."
"He wouldn't stop. He kept sending me every doomer article. He said that when the clouds evaporate, the earth is going to get 15 degrees hotter. He said that AI is going to hack every government database. He said that China is going to invade Taiwan, and then it'll be war with the US and allies against Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran."
The OP had had enough of his brother's negative feedback.
"Finally, I just told him I was blocking him and thought little of the decision."
"He went and cried to our parents (again, he's the most sensitive s**tbag in the world), and they told me what I did was over the top."
"I know that if I unblock him, he's just going to doomspam me again."
"Am I wrong for just straight-up saying I never want him in my life again?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that they understood why he felt the need to distance himself from his brother.
"NOR. He sounds insufferable."
"He sounds like one of those people who doesn't like his life and so wants everyone else to be miserable too, or makes excuses for why he didn't do more with his life by blaming his problems on some external crisis." - savingrain
"NOR. He's allowed to protect his peace, especially if his brother keeps ignoring boundaries and turning every conversation into another end-of-the-world prediction, and having kids is hardly a reason to apologize for trying to build a good life despite everything going on." - Upper-Cloud9097
"NOR. But your brother is on his way to a full mental breakdown. Send him back cute dog and cat videos. Cute horse videos. Ozzy animal voiceovers."
"Eventually his phone will start thinking he's like me and his feed will calm down." - Present_Original_797
"I mean, my beliefs and thoughts about the future are along the same lines as him, and that’s why I’m an anti-natalist, but there’s something called tact. And personal choice/autonomy."
"If someone chooses to have kids, that’s their choice, and I’d keep my opinions to myself and be supportive, especially if they’re a family member. Spreading doomer content is extremely insensitive and rude. NOR." - EngineerGold4242
"NOR: I wonder whether your brother is displaying sibling jealousy towards you and your family; he recognizes his own shortcomings and can see where he is in life compared to you, and that is his major issue."
"Days filled with unfulfilling computer games and doomspamming others, he has a lot of maturing to do. Block him until or unless he decides to join the adult world and be the uncle he is supposed to be." - iron_redditman
"NOR. I have all those fears and as such actively avoid news about them. I skipped whole paragraphs here for that reason too, lol."
"I’d definitely block my sibling or anybody else who did that to me. I already know all these things; I don’t need constant reminders. All I can do is work on improving my little corner of the world and trudge forward."
"Anyway, protect your peace." - hahagato
"You are not obligated to bond with someone just because you share blood. It’s your peace and your family that you need to protect now. If you decide to go zero contact, it’s perfectly okay!"
"Especially because you and your wife are in charge of two, almost three, little guys, and your mental peace affect directly to them."
"PS. Historically, the world has always been on the edge, but nothing stops us to be what we are, humans trying to get over all the s**t! So don’t let those bad things put you down. We can build a better world by raising kind, lovely people, and it seems you and your wife are doing it. Good luck!" - Camigatoespinace92
Others advised the OP to involve his parents in case they could help his brother.
"Unblock him and then send everything he texts you to both mom and dad. No comments, just forward it."
"They'll think you're sending it, and when they complain, you can tell them that you thought they'd be interested in your brother's articles as well."
"NOR." - No_Address687
"NOR. Your parents don't know the half of it. Forward everything and let them read it for themselves." - Available_Agent3305
"NOR. I’d keep him blocked; your parents are wrong. If you want to be petty, start sending your parents article after article of stuff you know they won’t like. They will get the hint soon enough." - OldieButNotMoldy
"I would also go low contact with the OP's parents. OP is clearly NOT the favorite son. Any boundaries he put up with his brother will be considered wrong. NOR." - Interesting_Novel997
"NOR, but also my first reaction is that your brother isn't a 'sensitive s**tbag,' he is struggling with anxiety/depression and maybe undiagnosed neurodivergence and is drowning in his own ruminations. None of that makes this an appropriate response to a pregnancy announcement; it's clearly not. But he sounds like someone who is clearly struggling here."
"If it were me, I'd be sending your parents anything he previously sent you. If they share your concern after reading a few articles, maybe they'll take steps to help him." - 2kidsnomoney---
"NOR. I'm sorry to say this, OP, but your brother has not been socialized normally. He is a chronically online loser who thinks he can do and say whatever he wants and does not understand there are no consequences because there are often no consequences when he does it in a league match or online."
"It frankly sounds like your concern for him and his future is budding into resentment and contempt, and I feel like, as most brothers would, those are not the feelings you want to hold towards him."
"I have a brother like this. He was diagnosed as an adult with Asperger’s and now just a spectrum autism diagnosis, but he’s a real a**."
"You may have to unblock him to communicate fairly. It may be worth doing this in person because it’s easier for the chronically online to 'craft' their retort rather than be a part of a conversation."
"Before you can do that, though, you need to sit down with your parents. You need to explain and be able to articulate that:"
"1. His reaction to the wonderful news of you having another child crossed the line and was inappropriate."
"2. There need to be reasonable consequences or boundaries because you are no longer willing to put up with that."
"3. It is his call at this point whether or not he wants to be in your life and your children’s lives."
"You have to have their buy-in; otherwise they are just going to continue to coddle and enable this behavior."
"Then you need to sit down with him and your parents, intervention style. You need to present the same argument you did to your parents, and in all honestly, I would question him in return: what was he hoping would have been the outcome of that conversation?"
"Did he want you to say he’s so right, so smart? Did he want you to go to your wife and tell her to abort? Does he feel like he is in a place in his life where he can be your family planner and manager? When he crosses a line, what does he feel should happen?"
"Only when he is directly confronted, and you have the right supports in place, can he be presented with how his behavior affected you and what that could possibly mean for his relationship with you and your growing family." - allison_mossie
The subreddit understood feeling burdened by so much negative information during what should be a happy time of planning and anticipating a new addition to the family, but the OP needed time to think about what he wanted his larger family dynamic to look like.
That might mean removing his brother, so that the OP could protect his own, and by extension, his wife's and children's, mental health, but it might mean minimizing contact with other people, too, if they weren't willing to respect the OP's boundaries he had for his family's life.