It's important to teach children about financial responsibility.
Particularly when they start to get older, and their parents become less and less willing to buy them certain items, or cover them in certain areas.
Some parents think giving their children a weekly allowance is the best way to start, as it teaches them how spending money too quickly could lead to disappointment.
While other parents won't lend their children any money, and make them get summer jobs or part-time jobs at a young age.
When the daughter of Redditor swimmingpoolaita expressed her desire for her parents to make an addition to their home, they thought it was a perfect opportunity to teach her a lesson in fiscal responsibility.
As a result, the original poster (OP) made a deal with her and made sure that she stuck to it.
In spite of the fact that she was only 12 when the deal was set.
Wondering if they had been unfair, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where they asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for asking my daughter to uphold her end of the deal?"
The OP shared the deal they made with their daughter when she was 12, and her considerable surprise when she was actually expected to follow through with it.
"Honestly, I don't even feel that this situation needs to be on Reddit but my daughter, husband and many of my family members are calling me an asshole and I'm really not sure anymore."
"For context, four years ago, when my daughter was 12, she desperately wanted a pool."
"She said that all of her friends had pools and she was the only one who didn't have one, plus she loved swimming."
"She insisted that she would use it daily in the summer."
"My husband and I could afford one, but as I'm sure some of you know, pools are very expensive and neither of us really like swimming so we wanted my daughter to understand the cost she was asking for."
"We made an agreement that we would install a pool but that once she was old enough to start working, she would pay us back for half of it."
"She quickly agreed."
"Well, flash forward to now. She's 16 and just got her first job, and now she wants to save up for a prom dress she really likes."
"I reminded her of our agreement about the pool and she no longer wants to uphold her end of the agreement."
"I insisted, threatening to take away phone and car privileges if she doesn't pay her father and I back."
"Now, she won't speak to me."
"My husband is agreeing with her, saying that we can't have honestly expected a twelve year old to keep her end of the agreement."
"For me, this isn't even about money, it's about teaching my young daughter the right morals to live life with."
"I don't want her to think she can just go around making deals for her benefit and then just not upholding them."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation by declaring:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
The OP found little to no sympathy from the Reddit community, who generally agreed that they were the a**hole for making their daughter help pay for the swimming pool.
Just about everyone felt that there were several more effective ways to teach their daughter financial responsibility, and making any kind of financial deal with a 12-year-old was a ridiculous prospect.
"YTA."
"At first I thought her end of the deal would be to clean the pool and keep it up, not pay for f*cking half of it!"
"Who in their right mind makes a deal like that with a 12 year old?!"
"Unless you're going to give her equity of the house when you sell it in the future, get over yourself with this."
"My god, this is one of the most ridiculous things I've read in here."- Caspian4136
"YTA who on earth would make this kind of a deal with a 12 year old?"
"Also who would do this to a 16 year old."
"Dumb idea to ever think was ever a good thing to do."- ReviewOk929
"You made a deal with a TWELVE YEAR OLD for THOUSANDS of DOLLARS?!?"
"Of course YTA."
"As a parent of FOUR, there are PLENTY of ways to teach our children morals that don't involve forcing a child to pay for a pool in an agreement she made when she was still in 5th or 6th grade."
"Side question, if you expect her to pay for half of the pool, will she get a cut of the real estate if you ever sell the house?"
"Having a pool increases the price of a house in real estate, so if she owns half the pool, she's entitled to part of that profit."
"In other words, you've already seen a return."- TheSciFiGuy80
"YTA for allowing a 12 year old to effectively take on thousands of pounds of debt."- gossy7
"YTA."
"Who makes a financial deal with a 12 year old that they can't possibly understand, much less expect them to start to honor it years later?"- furriosity
"YTA that was a ridiculous bargain to strike with a 12 yr old."
"You understood the value of money and a 12 yr old couldn't possibly."
"You are a double a**hole, first for making such an agreement and second for trying to enforce it."-Sensitive-Whereas574
"Dude."
"YTA big time."
"Your husband is right."
"How in the world can you expect a 12 year old to keep up her end of a deal like that?"-Daddy_Onion
"Just take half the cost of the pool out of her share of the equity when you sell the house."
"Oh, she has no ownership stake in the house?"
"Guess she has no ownership stake in the pool then."
"If you want to pass along good morals to your daughter, don't try to take financial advantage of minors."
"YTA."- 5footfilly
"YTA."
"Why would you even suggest that with a 12 year old?"
"She would have learned a lesson if you told her no."
"Should have just gotten a blow up pool or something like that."- Forward-Step-4234
"YTA."
"If you didn't want the pool, you should not have gotten the pool."
"But your 12-year-old wanted one 'because all her friends have one'."
"She could have gone swimming at one of her friends' houses."
"But instead you insisted on a 'bargain' with a child."
"I don't think I have to say what's wrong with this picture, do I?"- Competitive-Bake-103
"YTA and unreasonable."
"The cost of pool is not the responsibility of 12 year old."
"Next time don't cave."
"Learn to say no."- Prudent_Border5060
"YTA."
"You can't enter into a long term financial agreement with a 12 year old."
'Imagine her explaining it to her friends, 'Sorry, I can't come out with you, I'm in massive debt to my parents from when I was a pre-teen so I can't afford it'."
"It's clearly absurd."- thejackalreborn
'Are you expecting her to give you her entire paycheck each payday until the 'debt' is paid back?"-GlitterSparkleDevine
"YTA."
"She wasn't old enough to be making deals like that with."
"There's a time to just say no and that was one of those times."
"Now you just get to suck it up."- Less_Volume_2508
"Retired child psychologist here who also understands the law, but is not a lawyer."
"I completely understand your desire to teach your daughter about follow-through and upholding her responsibilities."
"I'm guessing you are a conscientious person who cares deeply about raising a thoughtful, responsible adult."
"All of that is good and well."
"The problem is that you started the lesson way too early with a way-too-large commitment, one not well-understood by a kid."
"The truth is that very few (if any) 12 year olds would actually truly understand what they are agreeing to, and for that reason your agreement would never be legally binding."
"At 12 she could not understand the amount of money involved and what kind of work would be involved paying that money back. It's impossible to have a 'meeting of the kinds' with such an undeveloped mind, you know?"
"She is 16 and now is the time to teach the lesson you wanted to teach, as now her brain can actually comprehend the agreement and what would be required of her."
"I suspect you've damaged your credibility with her, though, and she may not ever participate in or listen to one of your lessons again."
"Your family is right, YTA."- DrKittyLovah
Any parent should let their children know that if they want a pool, they are expensive, and require care and upkeep which they would need to contribute to.
But ultimately, the OP and their husband chose to put one into their house, when they knew their daughter had no source of income.
Perhaps if the OP looked back on how many promises. they made. when they were 12, and how many they actually honored, they might think differently about their deal.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.