Associating with children is hard.
Whether you are their parent, uncle, babysitter, or school teacher, it can be challenging to meet their chaos with a level head.
So, what happens when chaos ensues and a caregiver has some choice words for the child in question?
That was the issue facing Redditor and Original Poster (OP) Downtown_Wrap_7862 when he came to the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for judgment.
He asked:
AITA for telling my nephew the truth, that no one in the family likes him?
OP began with a brief introduction.
"This involves me (25 M), my sister 'Diana' (31 F), and her son 'Darius' (10 M).
Then he got right to the point.
"I get along with my Diana fine. I won't pretend I like Darius."
"I think he's an entitled brat who has gotten away with crap far too many times."
"I don't think Diana has ever reprimanded him, and every time the little sh*t acts up Diana makes excuses for him."
"He's already been suspended from school for stealing, he's a bully to all his cousins, and I know for a fact no one in my family likes him at all."
"Both of my parents cannot stand him."
"My mother, a woman who could find the love in her heart to babysit a honey badger, refuses to watch Darius at all because of his behavior."
"My father will take all of the grandkids out to fish every few months, except for Darius because he's too tempted to throw him out into the lake and drive off (his words, not mine.)"
OP explained the specifics of this situation.
"On Monday, I got a call from my sister who panicked because she got called into work."
"Darius was out of school, and her babysitter was not available."
"No one else in the family will watch Darius, so I told her to drop him off, and I would watch him."
"It was a nightmare."
"Darius was mad he had to spend his day off at my place."
"He refused to do anything I offered, made a mess in my bathroom, harassed my dog, and had a tantrum because I would not let him use my work computer to play games."
"By lunchtime, I was frustrated beyond all belief."
"I made him mac and cheese, and he demanded I take him to wendy's."
"He refused to eat and eventually dumped his bowl of food on my floor."
"At that, I just kinda lost it."
"I didn't yell or get aggressive at all."
"I just sighed and asked him if he realized that everyone in the family literally despised him."
"I explained that he was at my house because grandma and grandpa cannot stand him, and in fact, refuse to let him come to their house because he acts like a little sh*t. I won't lie. I got pretty brutal."
"He started crying and locked himself in my bathroom until he came out and sat and watched tv till my sister came and got him."
"I told her what happened, and I and her got into a massive argument as well. She called me cruel, and I told her that she's to blame and he would have learned eventually."
"My family is split on this."
"My dad thinks 'the little sh*t deserved it,' while my siblings have mixed opinions."
"My mother has told me she's staying out of this, but if I feel the need to apologize, do it and move on."
OP was left to wonder,
"What do you people think? AITA?"
Having explained the situation, OP turned to Reddit for judgment.
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided: ESH
Some thought this could've been handled differently.
"He's 10."
"He's been raised badly."
"He didn't just wake up one day and decide, 'You know what, I'm gonna be a total AH to everyone'. This is your sister's failure, and as much he is a total little sh*t."
"It's not entirely his fault. Because he's 10, and he's never been taught better."
"Did he need a serious talking to? Yes."
"Was your way the right way to do it? Not really."
"It's better to talk about behavior and outcomes than make it about the kid."
"Instead of telling him that his actions caused people in the family not to want to be around him (which I would applaud), you told him that his grandparents loathe him, himself."
"It's not very effective because it doesn't give him anything to change."
"Behaviours can be changed, but if you tell a kid that everyone hates them, that's them as a whole, not something they can change."
"It's not like telling an AH adult that everyone dislikes them cos they're an AH."
"An adult can figure out what that means and deal with it."
"But a kid?"
"Their family is their whole world and all the people they rely on, and you told him that basically everyone in his world loathes his very being."
"That's what makes it cruel."
"I really don't want to call you an AH, cos I'm not sure I would have lasted even til lunchtime with that little sh*t! But it wasn't the right way." ~ Left-Car6520
"You hit the nail on the head with this one."
"Correct his actions, tell him his behavior is sh*tty, but god, don't tell him everyone in his family hates him."
"As someone who was raised with no boundaries/rules and had to figure that stuff out on my own later in life, you internalize a lot of the sh*t people say to you." ~ lexicaltension
"100% agreed."
"A lot of people don't realize what a huge difference there is between telling a child 'I don't like this behavior' and 'I don't like YOU.'"
"The former is an important part of discipline. The latter is the kind of stuff that f**ks up a kid for life." ~litefagami
Others pointed out that this was an impossible situation.
"You are spot on."
"I feel for OP because I would not have lasted till lunchtime either, and Darius seems really obnoxious."
"But what OP told him was deeply, essentially cruel."
"He is a kid and does not have the recourses to do better."
"He would need some serious parenting and counseling, and needs to be taught that SOME BEHAVIOUR is not acceptable but not his entire SELF."
"I can only imagine how incredibly difficult this has to be, but he seems to be seriously lacking something, and if he grows up like that, in hatred, he may turn into something very nasty."
"God forbid a serial killer"
"I am very sorry for all those involved, and I am giving a regretful ESH here too." ~ Prangelina
Not everyone thought the situation was beyond salvaging.
"This is so well said."
"OP, you CAN fix this. Or at least try."
"Sit down with your nephew and say, 'hey, I was wrong to say that stuff to you, and I'm sorry. I was overwhelmed and wasn't thinking about how hurtful my words were. We don't hate you.'"
'"People all have different behaviors and quirks about them, and it's our job as fellow people to help each other be our best selves.'"
'"I'd like to start over if you'll give me a chance, but if you need a little time to be upset first, that's ok too."'
"Kids know when people don't like them."
"They just don't know why."
"Of course, he was a sh*t at your house."
"That's all he's ever been, and he probably didn't want to be around someone who didn't like him."
"For the record, I have a niece like this, she and I have had many conversations, but dear lord, that kid pisses me off sometimes."
"And sometimes we have to take little breaks."
"And that's ok. But she's also getting better with her behavior at my house."
"She knows what is and isn't allowed, and she also knows that when someone f*cks up, we're going to talk about it." ~ Traum4Queen
There were also personal stories.
"Yes!"
"Sounds just like my kid. They have been diagnosed with ADHD and ODD. It's extremely rough."
"But since going to therapy and getting help from their school and the right resources, it's gotten more manageable."
"We still have our bad days, though."
"But this is not the kid's fault at all. Poor kid just needs the right help."
"And OP's way is not it. But OP should try looking into ODD or at least tell the mom to. It might help." ~ Able-Still7809
"Yeah, one of my friends had a brother like that."
"That family had three kids, and the other two (my friend included) were perfectly fine."
"The brother was NOT."
"His mother was also constantly making excuses for him, even to me (another kid!) So her parenting would work perfectly fine on NT kids, but she had no idea what to do with the ODD kid."
"Unfortunately, in my culture, therapy is stigmatized, so neither parent wanted to take him to the doctor." ~ Wise-Butterscotch-81
OP did return to add some clarity to his story.
"Ok, the early consensus is I'm an **shole. That's fine."
"A little info."
"We've talked to Diana about this before. My parents sat her down and told her they will not watch Darius because of how he behaved and that she needs to do something else."
"We've all had talks with her about him bulling his cousins. She has done nothing."
Children are difficult, irritating, and loud. They are also loving and creative, and excited about everything around them. The beautiful brand of chaos they exist in can be difficult to work through.
While none of us are perfect, remember that the kid is seeking knowledge, which is always a difficult prospect. Perhaps it's best to meet them where they're at to improve their behavior and temperament.















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.