Content Warning: Discussions of Abusive Relationships
Let's all take a moment to give a complimentary eye-roll to the people who are too insecure to be in a relationship.
Because there's a huge difference between being jealous about a boyfriend hitting on another girl in front of his girlfriend, and a woman working out in a gym where men can see her working out, clarified the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor _Eloranyx was minding her own business after developing a steady routine at the co-ed gym she'd been attending for the past year.
But when her boyfriend expressed concern that other men could watch her work out and asked her to switch to an all-women's gym to feel more 'secure' about her workouts, the Original Poster (OP) pointedly said no, much to his dismay.
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for refusing to switch to an all-women's gym?"
The OP's new boyfriend spoke up to her about her attending a co-ed gym.
"I (25 Female) have been dating Ben (27 Male) for three months."
"Recently, Ben started expressing discomfort with me going to my regular co-ed gym."
"He said that it's normal for women with boyfriends to go to all-women gyms to avoid attention from other men and to make their partners feel more secure."
"He pointed out that his ex-girlfriend swapped gyms when they started dating."
But the OP enjoyed the routine that she had in place.
"I've been going to this gym for about a year, and I have a great routine, a supportive group of workout buddies, and I feel comfortable there."
"The idea of switching gyms just to make my boyfriend feel better doesn't sit right with me."
"I believe trust and respect are crucial in a relationship, and this feels like a lack of trust on his part."
"I tried explaining my perspective to him, but he insisted that his request was reasonable and that I was being inconsiderate of his feelings."
The OP decided to reach out for a third-party opinion.
"Since we can't agree, we've come to Reddit for opinions as we don't want to involve our families and friends."
"So, Reddit, am I wrong for refusing to switch to an all-women gym to make my boyfriend more comfortable?"
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
It took no time at all for some Redditors to start dissecting the boyfriend's word choice.
"WHO said it's normal for women with a boyfriend to go to an all-girls gym? is there a discount for that or something!? NTA." - kissklub
"The implication that every 'normal' woman going to a normal gym is single is nuts."
"Plus, I cannot imagine how inconvenient it may be. It's not like female gyms are everywhere." - DayShiftDave
"I'm disgusted. Women going to co-ed (totally normal!) gyms are going there for their health, not for dates."
"And is anyone else wondering what was the straw that broke the ex's back? If she was willing to switch gyms for him, what even crazier request did she say, 'nope, I'm out' to?" - Diligent-Variation51
"Honestly, it seems a little controlling. If you're happy at your gym and not doing anything wrong, there's no reason to switch. His insecurity is his problem, not yours." - prettyy-sofiaaa
"All my friends and I are irritated and annoyed when our workouts are interrupted by men wanting to chat or offer advice, even when it's neither wanted nor needed."
"Most women are not at the gym to pick up men, contrary to what some men seem to believe." - Petty_Crocker71
"This whole conversation puts the 'man' in 'manipulation.' Honestly, OP, I wouldn't say yes to him for anything. NTA." - BreakfastinBedlam
Others agreed and encouraged the OP to reconsider her options.
"If it was normal for women to switch to all-women's gyms when they are in a relationship, there would be a heck of a lot more all-women's gyms around, especially in the suburbs. Like, my county doesn't even have one, and it's as suburbia as it can get."
"NTA. Your boyfriend sounds like a controlling m*ron. You can do better." - Good_Focus2665
"NTA. Controlling where you work out is a major red flag. His request shows a lack of trust and respect for your choices. If he doesn't trust you now, three months in, it's unlikely that this issue will simply fade away."
"Stand your ground and prioritize your comfort and well-being. It's his problem to address, not yours by changing gyms." - eccentric_3
"She has been in a longer relationship with her gym. She can do better, and I ain't talking about the gym membership." - samantha802
"If he thinks women go to co-ed gyms to get hit on, how much you wanna bet his gym behavior is skeevy himself?"
"No, you don't need to sacrifice your health routine to appease his fragile ego and insecurities. No, that is not a 'normal thing women do.'"
"He is using his insecurity as an excuse to be controlling."
"If you were to tolerate it, it won't be the last thing he 'needs' you to change 'out of respect' or to 'help his insecurities.' This is a frog in a heating pot of water stuff." - Free-Initiative-7957
"At only three months into the relationship (I'm glad you're finding out so soon, OP), he's telling on himself."
"I've always gone to co-ed gyms and I've never encountered any creepy guys. I know they exist, but it's not a guarantee of attending a mixed-gender gym. If this guy thinks it's a ubiquitous feature of gyms, I suspect it's because he is the ubiquitous feature."
"Most people, men and women, just want to get their workout in and move on." - Carbonatite
"'Avoid attention from other men'... well, there is the first red flag. It starts with the gym. Then the beach. Then what to wear in public in the future."
"It is not your job to avoid having a life and contact with other people to make him feel secure. Run!" - PudeIdesTodes91
"Does he also expect you to work in an all-women profession? You must also, very soon, be expected to wear modest clothes since any show of skin attracts an unwanted male gaze. So much care, it must be suffocating." - andhakaran
"NTA. You've been dating for three months and he's already lying to you about what women in relationships do to try to control you."
"I've never once in my life heard that it's 'normal' for women to start going to all-women gyms once they're in a relationship."
"If he's so worried you'll be harassed by other men, he should get off his a** and go to the gym with you." - strangeloop414
"(Red) flag on the play… Women don't join an all-women gym once they're in a relationship, nor do spouses generally desire this."
"From the sound of it, your boyfriend seems very insecure, which insecurity translates into controlling behavior. Basically, your boyfriend asks you to give up the friendships you built and the safe space that your gym represents to you and that is unhealthy."
"Honestly, I would reconsider this relationship sooner than later. Best of luck!" - No-Connection-5129
"How about make yourself more comfortable and get a boyfriend who isn't an insecure little boy? Only three months in and he's starting to try to control you. Imagine what he'll be demanding of you in a year..."
"This is a gateway red flag. Give him this inch (well, it's actually more like a mile, what an odd request, ay?), and he's gonna start trying to control other aspects of your life, guaranteed to the point where you may even get isolated from all of your friends and family and support systems, just because he'll be scared they'll tell you what they think about him."
"The truth of the matter is, obvious from this post alone, is that he's abusing you and manipulating you because he's insecure with himself and fears abandonment. The gaslighting from this guy I can already tell will be horrendous." - Cute-Profession9983
After receiving feedback, the OP shared an uplifting update.
"There are so many comments now, I can't possibly reply to them all! I wasn't expecting to get this many replies!"
"I just wanted to thank you all for your thoughts and let you know after reading and discussing the comments, we have decided it's best to end things. I feel the relationship won't be healthy, and he thinks he needs to work on himself before being in a relationship."
"I was pleasantly surprised by his ability to take the criticism on board and hope this helps him become a better partner to someone in the future."
"And I will be spending a lot more time in the gym now!!"
After the update came in, the subReddit would undoubtedly breathe a sigh of relief, not only for the OP who realized she deserved better, but because her ex-boyfriend realized that he could do better.
There's no telling what led to his behavior and beliefs in the first place; past relationship trauma could be at the root of it, or maybe even his upbringing. But at least at the age of 27, it wasn't too late for him to grow and prepare himself for a healthier relationship in the future.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.