Whether or not we were relentlessly bullied as kids or not, we've likely all gone through that experience of being left out of an event or being fake-invited to one.
We can all agree that neither of those experiences feels good, agreed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit, but these would almost be weird experiences to have as an adult.
Redditor Recent_Exit1536 was just as surprised as their girlfriend when their sister invited her to be one of her bridesmaids and invited her to all of the wedding party festivities.
But when the sister didn't provide their girlfriend with any of the information she needed to be able to attend these events, the Original Poster (OP) wondered if their sister really wanted their girlfriend to be there after all.
They asked the sub:
"AITA for not giving my sister the wedding gift she wanted because of how she treated my girlfriend?"
The OP was surprised when their sister invited their girlfriend to be a bridesmaid.
"My girlfriend, Naomi, and I have been together for over a decade."
"My younger sister, Sarah, and my girlfriend have never been super close but are friendly when we get together, or I guess they were. When Sarah was in high school Naomi helped her out with some personal things."
"Sarah got married a few days ago. When Sarah announced her engagement to the family, she asked Naomi to be a bridesmaid, which surprised us a little, but Naomi was very excited because she's never gotten to do it before and probably won't have the chance."
"I want to be clear there was no suggestion from either of us that Sarah should ask her, it was about two seconds after she told us she was engaged."
"She said that she was so grateful to Naomi for the help when she was younger and Naomi was very touched."
But the confusion about Naomi's role began a few weeks later.
"A few weeks later, Sarah posted her 'bridesmaid proposals brunch.'"
"Naomi wasn't there. Sarah never said it to either of our faces directly but clearly, she'd changed her mind."
"Naomi was hurt but said she understood, because she hadn't expected the ask anyway."
But then the OP's sister wanted Naomi to attend the bachelorette party.
"That would have been fine, but then a few months later, Sarah asks Naomi to go to the bachelorette party and also to come to get ready the day of the wedding with her friends and bridesmaids."
"Then the same thing happened. Naomi said yes and even helped her find a good place to go and helped her get a rental."
"A month and a half before the wedding, I was talking to my mom on the phone and she mentioned that Sarah was at her bachelorette party... Sarah had made no mention of it to Naomi."
"Then I was kind of p**sed, because Naomi was clearly very hurt at two invites and then being sort of ghosted. Not to mention the ways Naomi had helped my sister out."
The plans for the morning of the wedding were the final straw.
"A week before the wedding, Naomi texted Sarah and asked about getting ready, and for details about hair and makeup."
"Sarah responded, acting confused, and basically told her nicely to just come with me, straight to the wedding, rather than showing up beforehand."
"Then I was really p**sed."
The OP had had enough of this wedding.
"Sarah wanted this really expensive baking mixer thing for a long time, and I got it for her for her wedding gift. My mom had ruined the surprise already, so she expected to receive it."
"But after everything with Naomi, I felt like being petty, and I cut her a check instead and returned the mixer."
"A few days after the wedding, Sarah texted me, saying, 'I don't know how to ask this, but what happened to the mixer?'"
"I responded, 'I didn't know how to ask this before, but what happened to treating my girlfriend like a freaking human being?'"
"Now my brother and my new brother-in-law and my mom are all texting me, saying things like 'What the f**k,' and they're accusing me, saying that I'm ruining her happy time."
"Naomi for her part says I probably shouldn't have done that but she feels a little vindicated."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some were just as confused as the OP and thought the situation gave off mean girl energy.
"Your mom ruined her honeymoon phase because she couldn't keep your gift a secret."
"Your sister ruined her honeymoon phase because she was greedy and decided your gift wasn't good enough and NEEDED to know why she didn't get a better gift. If she didn't want to know the real answer, she shouldn't have asked the question."
"Your sister treated your girlfriend like crap not once, not twice, but THREE times. There is no absolutely no excuse for that unless it is something on the level of a brain tumor or accidentally taking drugs for months."
"Your mom and brothers thinking your sister should be protected from the consequences of her actions just because she got married is ridiculous. When is the 'honeymoon phase' over so that she can be held accountable for being a mean girl again?"
"I bet the answer is never because their responses read very 'don't rock the boat' to me. They are going to want you and your girlfriend to suck it up because 'family,' and it 'isn't a big deal,' and 'you should be the bigger person.'"
"Don't let them get away with it. NTA." - Corpuscular_Ocelot
"I'm actually... really confused as to what was going on with the sister and would love to know why she was being such a weirdo about it. Was she just saying that to be mean, to save face with her brother, or did she get pressured not to have OP's girlfriend in the wedding party because of the bridesmaid's drama?"
"It's just... such a weird situation. Like, who does that? I get her forgetting the initial invite but after that? It's like cartoon levels of mean girl behavior."
"And OP's Mom is being weird as well, but I guess that's expected, since s**tty behavior is usually tracked back to parents that didn't want to 'rock the boat' or address what was wrong to avoid the energy."
"OP was completely in the right and NTA." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"NTA, your sister is a '90s teen movie mean girl level of evil. Actions have consequences. You still gave her a check, which is beyond generous of you." - NiceButton7
"NTA. Your sister is a literal mean girl and you're a good boyfriend." - Old_Wishbone5287
"I don't think they're claiming her honeymoon period was ruined because she didn't get the mixer. I think they're claiming it was ruined because the OP won't let her off the hook for being a mean girl during the wedding planning phase."
"And like, I get it on some level. Nobody likes to be told they were mean to somebody. We all want to believe we're the hero of our own story and the wedding industrial complex is full of 'you're the bride, it's your special day, and nobody should make you feel bad about having it the way you want!'"
"But OP's sister really messed up and it's going to have long-term ramifications for her relationship with her brother and his partner, and if I'm being honest, it's actually a good thing for her to feel bad about that. NTA, OP." - readthethings13579
Others simply reassured the OP that he had been right to return or repurpose the gift.
"NTA. I wouldn't have even given her a check. I would have bought her a whisk or a spatula, and told her, 'Oh, Mom must have been confused, just like you were when Naomi asked you about getting ready.' But I am petty like that." - duckingridiculous
"NTA. Your sister treated your girlfriend like garbage and didn't deserve the expensive gift. I personally LOVE your level of petty." - Comfortable-Sea-2454
"NTA. It is your gift and your choice. I am very confused about your sister's motivation for all this, though. Does she have a vendetta against your girlfriend and is using the occasion to try to hurt her? Is she very absent-minded and keeps forgetting who she's inviting? Is it possible that your girlfriend offended your sister in some way after the invites?"
"I think having an actual talk with her might be a better way to resolve this issue. But still, NTA." - Kindly_Egg_7480
"About the mom… She told her ADULT daughter what another adult was getting her, for one thing, and blamed OP for another. Just deeply weird behavior in this family."
"OP is NTA, not even a little bit, and it was probably really crucial that Naomi saw OP stand up for her, because if I was dating someone and saw this behavior from two family members, I'd be moving very cautiously and wondering about the future of the relationship." - simulet
"NTA. Your sister is playing games with your girlfriend and/or you and not very nice ones at that. Ghosting her and gaslighting both of you is incredibly disrespectful. Not to mention very manipulative and downright mean."
"Poor Naomi, I'm not surprised she's upset; who wouldn't be?"
"As for the rest of your family, ignore them. Along with your sister and brother-in-law, your family are all AHs for trying to make you back down. Stick to your guns and your girlfriend m'dear, she seems lovely." - IndividualSound5365
With everyone still weirded out and confused, the OP shared an even weirder update.
"So I talked to Sarah, and things just got more confusing."
"She said when she asked Naomi to be a bridesmaid, she meant an 'honorary' bridesmaid."
"She then said for the Bachelorette party, Naomi had told her she works most weekends, so she didn't think that Naomi was able to attend and was just helping her to plan. Naomi said that she told Sarah to give her dates so she could take off."
"Naomi is a very non-confrontational person and had asked me to not bring up the bridesmaid or Bachelorette things because she didn't want to feel like she was 'pushing in' at the time, which is why I didn't."
"Regarding the makeup and hair thing, my sister said that Naomi had told her she would do her own hair, so she didn't see a reason for her to come get ready with them."
"My sister is still p**sed at me and says I ruined her honeymoon period (she's not on a trip) and some other really crappy stuff, so I just hung up on her."
"She also said that not giving the mixer was rude to her and her husband, which is hilarious because my BIL probably can't figure out how to turn on the oven without neon flashing signs."
"Thanks for all the comments. I've never seen that many on any Reddit post I've ever made in my life."
This was one of those situations that the subReddit could not make heads or tails of, considering how weird the bride's behavior was.
But no matter her reasoning, what she had done to the OP's girlfriend was cruel and inconsiderate, and while she didn't get the mixer she wanted, the OP still took the higher ground by providing her with a check she could use to purchase the mixer herself, perhaps even in a color she wanted, too.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.