A Redditor celebrated their dad's birthday by bringing the family, including the Redditor's husband, Joel.
Although Joel was there to take in the occasion at a restaurant, he was not in the mood to feel particularly celebratory.
He explained why he was feeling down, but his spouse's reaction was one he was not hoping for.
Their argument led to Joel giving the Redditor the silent treatment, which prompted them to visit the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit, where they asked:
"AITA for yelling at my husband for discussing his dad's death on my dad's birthday?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Yesterday was my dad's birthday, so me and my family took him out to dinner at a nice restaurant."
"My husband, Joel, seemed a bit distant, but I didn't talk to him about it so we wouldn't ruin the mood for my parents."
"On the way home from the restaurant, I asked him what was wrong. He said he missed his dad, who passed away about 2 years ago."
"He explained that he couldn't stop thinking about his dad. I let him talk to the kids about his dad for quite a bit."
"I was getting sick of It, our children (Female 12 and Male 9) shouldn't need to hear his sob story. I told him that's enough talk about his dad and he apologized."
"But when we were back at the house, I heard Joel talking to the kids about his dad again. I told him to stop, that the kids didn't want to hear it."
"Joel argued that his dad is the kids' grandfather, so of course they want to hear about him. I told him it's fine to tell stories about his dad, but that he's taking it too far and that he'll just make them depressed."
"We argued for a bit (the details aren't important), and in the end he accused me of being an a**hole."
"I thought he'd get over it by next morning, but he isn't talking much and I can't help but feel it's related to last night. I think he's just being stubborn and overreacting, but I'm not sure. AITA?"
Strangers online were asked to declare one of the following:
- NTA – Not the A**hole
- YTA – You're the A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everybody Sucks Here
A majority of Redditors were appalled for the OP's lack of empathy.
"YTA: Holy sh*t, are you even listening to yourself? 'I was getting sick of It, our children (F12 and M9) shouldn't need to hear his sob story.'"
"You're a real AH for not having any empathy for your husband when he was obviously missing his dad a bit and being reminded bc of the situation." – DDecimal
"What kind of monster calls their SO's parent's death a sob story especially just barely 2 years ago when the parent has been around all their life?" – ThrowawayPeacemaker
"The 'sob story' part made me stop reading for a moment. Definitely YTA. Aren't you his wife? What's wrong with you." – karnicbel
"YTA. Sob story??? His dad died only two years ago, your dad's birthday is going to cause him heartache because he can't celebrate his dad's birthday with him anymore."
"It's cruel you lack the understanding that he's still grieving and this event would cause him to grieve more. Instead of being understanding, you decide to heartlessly dismiss him whilst all he wants to do is share stories with your children to keep his father's memory alive."
"Your lack of empathy is astounding." – OkBullfrog7875
"I mean, how is 'AITA' even a QUESTION here?! You are acting like a monster - not only are you denying your husband the chance to process with you, but trying to keep him from keeping his own father's memory alive with his kids."
"This is staggering to me. He didn't even bring his grief to dinner - he let you celebrate and endured his pain alone, even though saying 'wow, I'm so grateful for you, [OP's dad], and it's making me realize how much I miss my dad,' would have so appropriate!" – AnnesleyandCo
"YTA. You're super-insensitive. Your husband is grieving and you're being an a**hole to him about it."
"Also this:"
'the details aren't important.'
"I'm willing to bet those details are important and you're leaving a lot out." – TheUtopianCat
"Wow. 5 days into the year and already such a strong contender for AH of the Year? Impressive. I can't even imagine being this callous to my life partner when he was expressing grief over his father's death."
"Calling it a sob story? If I were him I'd be rethinking the whole relationship. YTA, big time." – LiveOnFive
"A week after my miscarriage my ex said, 'are you still going on about that?'"
"That was the moment I knew I would leave him. Awful beyond the forgivable."
"You sound just like him." – peanutbutter-gallery
"YTA, and staggeringly heartless. Your husband missed his late father, and wanted to share stories about him with his kids, which is a lovely way to remember him and keep him alive in their memories, and you dismissed him and called him depressing."
"I don't know who broke you, but you need therapy and to apologise to your husband for being utterly lacking in basic human compassion." – FoolMe1nceShameOnU
"There's a huge lack of empathy here, obviously (just labelling her husband's grief a 'sob story' - jeez). But there's also something else."
"I really think the OP is making a serious error in judgment when she's assuming the kids wouldn't want to hear about their grandfather. I don't know if the OP mistakenly thinks kids can't process loss or feelings of sadness in others, or if the OP is just projecting her opinions onto the kids."
"But chances are the kids like hearing stories about their grandpa, even if they're sad. And they probably like that their dad talks openly with them. It makes them feel closer to their dad and helps them process their own loss."
"I wish my dad had talked more openly with me." – K-no-B
Overall, Redditors remained aghast over the OP's reaction and for downplaying Joel's continued grieving process.
Many people also suggested that the OP's lack of empathy and compassion for Joel was enough to be considered grounds for divorce.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.