Charging friends for services rendered can be awkward.
But people need to be paid in order to live.
But what happens when a mistake is made during the services?
How does this change the price plan?
Especially when all the parties are culpable.
Redditor zzalmoxiss wanted to discuss their experience and get some feedback, so naturally they came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
They asked:
"WIBTA if I charge for a coverup of a nasty tattoo I did?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I'm one year into tattooing, and this is the first coverup I've done of a tattoo."
"I tattooed an Arabic saying on a girl's back a few weeks ago, and we both thought it translated to 'appreciate life' because the translation was right under the Arabic words in the photo she sent me."
"A few days ago, she texted me saying that she wants me to delete the picture of her tattoo off of my page because it actually translates to something awful."
"I was so shocked. I ran the pic through the translate lens myself like 5 times, and the tattoo did, in fact, mean something gross."
"I usually check what clients' tattoos mean beforehand when they are in a foreign language, but I did not check this one because the translation came with the reference picture."
"I quickly deleted the post and told her that I'm happy to work on a coverup together if she's down for it."
"She was, and I finished the design today."
"She likes it, and we are gonna do it."
"The thing is, I feel very guilty about this whole thing because it never happened to me before."
"I feel really sorry that I put that on someone's body, and I am very happy to cover it, but I feel SO ashamed of charging her for this coverup because I somehow feel like it's my fault."
"I, as the artist, should have checked the translation, and I'm afraid that there is a possibility that she thought the coverup was free."
"So when I tell her a price, she will blame me for the tattoo and end up on bad terms."
"It was her first tattoo, and we have a common friend, so she may think that I offered my coverup services as an apology, but to be honest, I don't even know if I did anything wrong???"
"Maybe I'm overthinking."
"I'm so conflicted, and I don't know what to do."
"On one side, I do feel for her, and I want to help her, but on the other side, this is a complex tattoo that I can't really afford to give out for free."
"If she was my friend, I would totally do it for free, but she's a friend's G[irl]F[riend]'s friend, so I don't even know what our status is to be able to give out my resources like that."
The OP was left to wonder:
"WIBTA if I charge her for this coverup? IF I do, I will cut it down a lot though."
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NAH. If the client brings something in a foreign language and says, 'Tattoo this on me,' I think you should have a policy of telling them that you don't know what it says and will take no responsibility if it doesn't mean what they think it means."
"It might be a good idea to have that in writing if you agree to any such tattoos in the future."
"Check out the policies others have in place."
"If they asked you to design a tattoo and the writing was what you came up with, then the responsibility would be on you (which is why doing that would not be a good idea unless you were sure you knew what you were doing)."
"The reason I say NAH is because ideally, you should have dealt with this issue from the start, with a policy in place, a warning that you can't take responsibility for a reference they bring you that's in a foreign language, and so on."
"You also should have made it clear whether the cover-up would be free or whether you were going to charge for it at the time you offered to do it."
"This isn't really a matter of you being an A or not, but a lesson for the future."
"There's no simple answer here because the best option isn't possible now."
"If you offer to do it for free (telling them that even though this is not your fault, you'll do it as a once off -- this isn't policy) you avoid any negative reaction, but you risk her telling others creating this kind of expectation (if there's some problem, even if caused on my end, the cover-up is free) -- but you can manage that by having a clear policy in place before anyone else requests something similar." ~ kurokomainu
"I agree with all of this."
"Sadly, it won't help now, but policies usually come from a place of experience as to why they're now needed. "
"OP, you could always give her a discount for the coverup, say 25% off or something, but I wouldn't apologize or say you're responsible for the mistake, and I would offer the discount prior to her coming in so you're both on the same page."
"It would be a lot worse if she came in for the coverup, thinking it was free and didn't have the money for it." ~ These-Buy-4898
"This is the way."
"I would send her a message saying something like... It is unfortunate that the original tattoo had a different translation than what was presented in the source material and could've been prevented if the script had been more thoroughly researched."
"Fortunately, it is not a huge detailed piece, and we can alter it into something cool with a cover-up."
"This is the piece I've come up with, and I just want to finalize the design to ensure no alterations are needed before your appointment."
"As this was your first tattoo, I want to make sure your experience doesn't change your outlook on getting more ink in the future."
"So I'm going to discount this one and just use the original $xx as a deposit towards the cover-up."
"I hope this helps to put your mind at ease whenever you're ready for your next tattoo." ~ holdtightbro
"This is it."
"I would offer to do the cover-up at the cost of materials (possibly something for your time depending on how much time the planned cover-up is going to take) and then put a policy in writing for the future."
"Give her a deal as goodwill and make things clear for future clients."
"This is not your fault at all but giving a discount will help mitigate any possible bad feelings from this client." ~ Just-some-moran
"You're NTA for charging her for the cover-up."
"You made a mistake, but you're still providing a service and putting in your time and skill to create a new tattoo."
"It's fair to communicate the price, especially since you're cutting it down to help her out."
"Just be honest with her about the situation and that you understand her feelings."
"If she's a reasonable person, she should appreciate your honesty and effort."
"Also, both of you should have searched for the meaning of it, not just you." ~ sweetalessia
"Maybe I'm being a little cynical here, but a part of me suspects that this girl may have done this deliberately to scam OP."
"If OP does this for free (which they absolutely should not) then she will have gotten a larger, custom-designed, potentially color tattoo for the price of a smaller, presumably non-colored tattoo consisting of only words with no design input from an artist."
"Potentially we're talking about her getting a £100 or more tattoo for more like £30."
"The most OP should do is reduce the fee for the cover-up by the amount they charged for the original, so that way if she is scamming him, she'll have failed on that front."
"And, if this wasn't an attempted scam by her, then it's honestly still her responsibility to check the translation when she's asking the tattooist to tattoo a specific foreign word or phrase."
"And obviously, OP is NTA." ~ Internet-Dick-Joke
"I agree."
"Especially with access to any information in the world in your pocket, if she was too lazy to do a quick Google to confirm the information, that's on her. NTA." ~ almaperdida99
"NTA. You are not responsible for someone else's decisions or lack of investigation."
"However, as you usually check translations, you know it's better to check for yourself than end up in this situation."
"You'll feel better if you help her, even if ultimately the blame for this mistake lies with the client."
"Charge her, give her a heavy discount, and let both of you learn from this mistake."
"Do not do a tattoo again without checking the translation for yourself and getting the client to confirm on the record that's what they want to save you the hassle."
"Hopefully, the client will be more careful going forward herself."
"Hope the cover-up goes well!" ~ mosstalgia
"Hello, fellow tattooer here."
"NTA. The translation of any tattoo is 100% the client's responsibility."
"We have several points during the tattooing process where they can pick up on it."
"It's her fault."
"You charge for the cover-up." ~ OnsidianInks
OP came back with some information...
"To be more specific..."
"I did not make the writing design myself, I just copied the picture she sent me."
"The picture she sent me had the design and 'appreciate life' under it as translation."
"I'm calling the tattoo nasty because it is."
"It actually translates to 'I'm rotten.'"
"After further research, I found that the picture she sent me circulated on Tumblr a few years ago as a meme but we obviously were not aware of that."
"It's just words on a white background."
"I've never had so many people comment on my post."
"I've tried to read everything and I finally made my decision."
"Thank you all for the help, truly!"
Reddit continued to weigh in.
"Meet halfway maybe?"
"As a collector of skin art, it's my responsibility to make sure I'm giving you the right thing."
"So that's on her."
"You as the professional that has been doing this for a year are probably looking to build a return customer base, you should make sure we aren't doing ourselves wrong because you are the professional." ~ SeaDifficulty3527
"NTA... charge her."
"It's not your fault that the words she gave you to put on her body said something awful."
"This is completely 100%, absolutely the client's fault."
"You shouldn't be doing the second tattoo free of charge."
"If you feel bad about it and you want to be really nice maybe give her a discount."
"But do not do it for free."
"That is a terrible precedent to set." ~ broke_wing
"NAH, I would do this at a heavily discounted rate, mainly as I suspect you feel so bad about it even though you did nothing wrong, by the sounds of it you'll feel worse if you make money from it."
"Doing it at a discounted rate will make her feel a lot better and you prob will too." ~ Acceptable_Bunch_586
"You are a tattoo artist, not a research assistant."
"It's not up to you to police what people want on their bodies as long as it's not racist or offensive."
"However saying that you are offering a service and are in a profession where reputation and word of mouth is important - you want those nice big jobs and people recommending you."
"How about you go halfway and don't charge her for your time, just the cost of the materials? NAH." ~ Only_Fig4582
"NAH... I know what I'd do for my own conscience, but you can't be held accountable for someone deciding to have a tumbler meme tattooed on them without even putting it into Google first."
"There's definitely an expectation of due diligence on the part of the client that they know what they're asking for." ~ 1568314
"NTA. What she wants on her body is not your responsibility."
"If she tells you the text has a specific meaning, you may assume it's correct."
"There's nothing wrong with charging her full price." ~ DynkoFromTheNorth
"NTA, it's not your job to spell-check people's tattoos." ~ Vegetable-Star-5833
I'm glad to hear you have a plan, OP.
It sounds like a very reasonable solution.
Hopefully, your customer will agree.
Accidents happen, she should've done some extra research herself though.
Good luck with the cover-up.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.