While some people try to brush it off and cite it as something that happens to "everyone" during their childhood, bullying is known to cause lasting harmful effects.
But when a child is being bullied, ironically the people who should care about them and protect them the most are often the ones who allow the bullying to escalate, pointed out the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor Substantial-Egg-1971 had been ruthlessly bullied during his earlier school years, and when he discovered that his mother had selected his past bully as her upcoming teacher's aide, he felt betrayed.
But when he attempted to set a boundary and asked her to switch teaching aides with someone, the Original Poster (OP) realized quickly where his mother's priorities were.
He asked the sub:
"AITAH for telling my mom she is dead to me if she mentors my bully?"
The OP was shocked when he found out who his mom's teacher's aide would be.
"So my [16 Male] mom [40s] is a teacher at my school. Our school has a special elective you can take which is being a teacher's aide (TA) during your elective period."
"It's mostly stuff like grading papers for them, making copies, mentoring, etc... It's pretty much always just the teacher's favorite student at the time.
"I found out at the beginning of the semester that my mom chose Dave [17 Male] to be her TA."
The OP and Dave had nothing but a negative history.
"Dave has made my life a living nightmare since middle school. He has bullied me mercilessly both physically and emotionally since sixth grade."
"I don't want to get into everything he's done to me, but everyone is fully aware of it, including the school and my parents. There have been countless meetings with school administration and suspensions on his end but it never stopped him."
"Since we've been in high school I haven't had to see him as much, which is a relief, but the times that I do are always terrible."
The OP attempted to broach the subject with his mother.
"When I found out that he was her new TA, I was obviously very hurt and confused. I asked her why would she want to spend extra time with someone who made my life so terrible?"
"She said that she had him in one of her classes and that he really isn't such a bad kid, but he has a really terrible home life that she can't tell me about that makes him act out."
"For the record, my mom has always had a soft spot for kids who come from bad homes. I reminded her of all the things he had done to me and she said that she understood but he really needs help right now."
"I told her I get that, but why does it have to be you? We have a huge school full of teachers and staff who can mentor him. Why does it have to be you? She told me to stop being selfish and some kids have it harder than I can imagine and she's just trying to help."
The OP set a firm boundary.
"I was honest with her and told her that if she continued to have him as her aide, she was dead to me."
"She was choosing him over me and she would not longer be my mother. I would no longer talk to her and the minute I turned 18, I was moving out and she would never hear from me again."
"She rolled her eyes and said I was being dramatic but after a couple of days of ignoring her, I was grounded."
"It didn't change my mind and my dad then tried to force me to talk to her. I still refused so they pretty much took everything away from me one by one for the past few weeks."
"I no longer have my car, computer, guitar, and most recently my art supplies, and I have to come home from school and go straight to my room and am not allowed out except for dinner until I start talking to her again."
"They don't realize that this is just strengthening my resolve. I'm going to sit in this empty room every day silently until I'm 18 and they'll never see me again."
"My mom keeps coming in crying and begging me to talk to her which makes me feel kind of bad but she still won't remove Dave as her aide."
"Am I taking this too far? I just feel so betrayed."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some could not get over the mother's behavior.
"NTA. The damage is done, hope your mother realizes she f**ked it up." - Popular_Error3691
"In a few years, mom will post asking about why her son hates her, leaving most of the context out of the post." - OttersAreCute215
"AITAH Because I mentored my son's childhood bully?'"
"Bet it will be filled with the heartbreaking details of the bully's 'terrible home life,' which she can't disclose to her son to get the sympathy and validation."
"And then she will leave out the details of the cruel punishment and treatment of her own son, saying, 'I was just trying to help a good kid escape a terrible situation, I had NO IDEA it would affect my son. There were a couple of issues in middle school but I had no idea it was still happening when he started as my teaching assistant.'"
All of that being said even though she knew from the very moment and every moment she didn't abandon her bleeding heart mission, 'Her DUTY as a teacher' for the sake of her kid."
"She'll twist and omit details, and she'll get her own 'NTA' verdict. It only cost them one son. Glad it seems that OP is their only child, so that soon this pair of a**holes will not have any more kids to send into the world with years of therapy." - Upper_Ad_4651
"NTA."
"If my mother had done that to me or one of my brothers, we would have treated her like a traitor."
"She puts her savior-complex or whatever this is over your mental health. She is in addition to that disloyal to your family (YOU)."
"Just ignore her and organize your life. Do good in school and leave her behind when you are old enough and independent."
"I cannot even compute how people do this to their own blood. But here we are. I wish you the best." - Shinzodune
"Rather than risk the shame of acknowledging that they drove off their own child, they 'don't know' why the kid won't talk to them and it's all very messy and totally confusing and their child is just irrational and the [insert bogeyman] got to them and convinced them to forsake her, or whatever."
"It's sincere, don't get me wrong. They genuinely don't understand why their kid won't talk to them."
"But only because they spent years refusing to listen when their child told them why they were going to cut contact and years thinking that threats of no contact were all a bluff and just moody teenager stuff. They blocked out the learning at every chance they ever had to fix the problem, so of course they're not gonna start understanding now, after their own choices have made the situation unsalvageable."
"That's exactly what the OP's mother is going through, and it's not at all the OP's fault. NTA." - Anomander
Others reassured the OP that he should focus on himself going forward.
"NTA. Your parents are id**ts by punishing you for expressing how you feel. Your mother is crying to guilt trip you because you didn't let it go like she thought you would."
"Do what you think is best for you and good luck." - Substantial_Tea6322
"NTA. I'm sure Dave has a rough life, but it doesn't excuse his cruelty towards you. I would be extremely hurt if my mom sided with my bully."
"Your mom should ask one of her colleagues to take him on as an aid and then tell Dave that, given his prior history with you, it is no longer appropriate for him to be her aid." - Prickly_Peaches
"NTA. Is there someone else you can live with? A school counselor or family member to talk to? It's not going to reflect well on her if it's known she's supporting her son's bully and is punishing her son at home for not being okay with that."
"If you want to ramp it up, put a countdown to your 18th birthday up on your wall."
"Seriously though, if she does give up mentoring this kid, she and your father have still seriously damaged their relationship with you. You need to make that clear in the event your mom cracks. Demand family counseling with a therapist you approve of, so the therapist can also tell your parents how awful they're being." - mommykraken
"IF you talk to your mom, tell your mom maybe she can start giving a s**t about you since now you come from a bad home where parents encourage and enable bullying. And then don't say any more to her."
"Your dad is enabling abusive behavior, and Dave and your mom are now both your bullies. NTA but I'm so sorry." - scarielthemudmaid
"Stop coming home after school on time. What are they going to do? Ground you? Take away more things? Oh wait, they can't."
"You have absolutely no incentive to listen to them so go to the library or whatever you want after school and make them worry when they can't reach you. Stroll back into the house at 9:00 PM. Do this every day..."
"Your mother is choosing to abuse you for the 'privilege' to continue helping your bully. I don't know you or your parents but I can comfortably say they are bad parents and bad people."
"Also, your mother is crying but not removing any punishments or returning your things? Then she's not actually sorry, just trying to manipulate you into letting her tutor Dave. I have no idea why her child's bully is more important to her than her child but I wouldn't love a mother like that, either." - DragonSeaFruit
After receiving feedback, the OP shared the beginnings of an update.
"Nothing has really changed, but a lot of you made a good point that if I'm really going to go this route, then I need to come up with a plan for what I'm going to do when I get out. I considered the military like some people suggested, but then I remembered my school has a special trade program."
"You go to our school for half a day, then spend the other half at our local community college taking trade classes. I think depending on what you are doing, you can get an associate's degree or whatever certifications you need by the time you graduate."
"I went to my guidance counselor during lunch today and told her I wanted to switch to that program. She acted really surprised and asked why I wanted to change now since I'm already taking AP classes and am on the college track."
"I told her I didn't want to talk about it but I would need to be ready for independence when I graduated and this seemed like the best way."
"She said it might be too late to change this semester but she would look into it for me and let me know."
The OP then shared a lengthy update in a separate post.
"To everyone who said my mom was sleeping with Dave... You were right."
"Just kidding, yall are weirdos..."
"A lot has actually happened since last week and while nothing is really fixed, I think things are going in the right direction."
The conversation about switching to trade school continued.
"On Friday, I got called out of class to the guidance counselor. When I got there, my mom and the assistant principal were there, as well. The counselor asked me to sit down and said that my changing tracks from college to trade like I mentioned in my last post, was a big decision and she wanted to sit down with my mom and me to figure out if this really was the best for my future."
"She first asked me if I would fully explain why I wanted to switch. I explained the whole situation from my perspective and about how I was being punished. I said that if this is how I was going to be treated from now on, I wanted to become independent as soon as possible, and going to college would have me relying on my parents for longer than I would like."
"She then asked my mom if she had anything she would like to add."
"My mom tried to downplay the whole situation at first and make it look like I was just being stubborn and disrespectful, but as the counselor asked her more questions, it became pretty clear that my side was the truth."
One positive change came from that conversation.
"After this, the Assistant Principal stepped in and said that a teacher's aide was not worth all of this turmoil and that Dave would be switched with another teacher."
"The counselor then asked me if this would help me to start working things out with my mom."
"I said not really because it wasn't even her choice, and she hasn't even admitted she's done anything wrong."
"She then asked my mom if she was willing to apologize for anything that had happened. My mom gave a half-hearted apology where she said things had gone overboard and she never meant to hurt me so much."
"The counselor asked if I would like to apologize for anything as well and I said not really but nobody pressed me on it."
There was pressure to explore family counseling.
"The counselor then said about my transfer, it was too late for this semester. What she suggested is that my mom and I and possibly my dad should go to a family counselor for the rest of the semester. I would stay in my current classes, my parents would give me all my stuff back, and we could see if we could come to some kind of peace before next semester."
"She then asked my mom that if after that, I still had not changed my mind, would she accept the class changes?"
"My mom said no at first because she wanted me to go to college, but I told her that she had already failed me as a mother once, so please don't do it again."
"She got really quiet and said she would agree to it if that was what I really wanted."
The OP took steps to make the most of his situation for now.
"When I got home, all my stuff was returned to me."
"I also started talking to my mom again. I just kind of felt like there wasn't a point in ignoring her anymore. I don't treat her like a mother or anything anymore, but I'll answer her if she asks me a question."
"It just feels like that now that I have a plan, a lot of my anger is gone and I just see her as a person who happens to live in my house. We haven't scheduled our first counseling session yet but I don't see it changing much anyway. The damage is done so I don't see myself changing my mind."
"That's pretty much it. I probably won't update again unless something crazy happens or something. Thank you to everyone who gave me good advice."
The subReddit was furious on the OP's behalf that his mother had prioritized her desire for a teaching assistant over his comfort and past history with his bully.
It made total sense that the OP wanted to move on and start his life as soon as possible, and because of how they continued to treat him, estrangement might be an option, too.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp