Redditor aitathrowSDGNU349 is trying to balance his parenting with keeping the bills affordable.
The Original Poster (OP) keeps the thermostat in the upper 80s in order to keep the AC bill low.
The OP's son typically hangs out in his underwear because it's so hot.
But the OP wants his son to wear more clothes around the house.
This caused a disagreement between the OP and his son, ultimately driving the OP to subReddit "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA).
He asked:
"AITA for telling my son he has to wear clothes?"
He went on to explain.
"My son [Male age 19] loves to just wear underwear in his room for whatever reason."
"He'll throw on a shirt and pants if he has to step out to go to the bathroom, come to the kitchen, talk to anybody, etc but otherwise, he's just in his underwear."
"I've [Male age 48] told him multiple times that I dislike this and that he has to wear clothes in case his mom or I have to come into his room."
"He says that if we start knocking he'll throw something on and then it'll be okay. I told him he still has to wear clothes and then he made another excuse and said it was too hot."
"In the summer, I tend to set the thermostat to around 85 or 87 to save money. I turn it down to around 80-82 once the sun goes down because then it takes less energy."
"He says that it makes him sweat when he's just sitting around not doing anything and I rejoined by saying, 'if it's so hot go spend a couple hours outside, see if it still feels hot'"
"We live in Oklahoma, and it routinely gets up to 100 in the summers."
"He rolled his eyes at this and we just kept arguing."
"I'm wondering now if I'm the a**hole."
"Am I?"
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided:
"YTA - huge one. 1. He's not naked around the house; 2. Why do you actually care; 3. 87 degrees in the summer?! That's torturous"
"4. Your ridiculous temperature requirements are the reason he's wearing only underwear in the first d*mn place."
"You want him to get dressed? Keep the house a humane temperature." - Alloddscanteven
"This is his room, where he can spend the day naked if he wishes. Why does it bother you so much that he's in his underwear in his own room ?"
"Knock on his door, and he'll get dressed before he opens it - it's the best solution for everyone."
"YTA" - Waterslide33
"A teenager living at home has very little privacy. Their room is the only safe place they truly have. Why would want your son to be uncomfortable in his own room?"
"I do understand the need to save cost, I also live in Oklahoma; however, 85+ is a bit hot."
"And he needs to cool off and relax. Let him be comfortable in his own space, please."
"YTA." - Drakmarr628
"YTA - I'm not trying to be rude here, but this isn't how you treat someone you love."
"You need to see a therapist and figure out why you need to control your son's life down to the micromanagement level."
"There is no good reason why him sitting in his own room, his safe space, the only physical space he can call HIS, bothers you whatsoever."
"Go see a professional and repair what's left of your relationship with your son. And use your godd*mn air conditioner." - pianistafj
"There's this thing... where you balll your hand into a fist and hit it lightly on the door to alert someone you're there. yta and it's too hot stop being cheap." - kykiwibear
"This post is a joke, right?"
"If it was 85 degrees in my house, I can promise you I wouldn't be wearing anything at all - not even underwear."
"YTA" - _mmiggs_
"He's in his room and his door is closed."
"You should be knocking, and you should d*mn well have the respect for your 19-year-old to wait seventeen seconds while he pulls on pants in preparation for your entry."
"Get. Over. Yourself."
"YTA" - tosser9212
"YTA for policing how he dresses in his own room behind a closed door and for keeping your house at 87 degrees and not understanding why someone would be uncomfortable."
"He's 19 years old, stop trying to control his behavior. Certainly, you have bigger problems than this to contend with." - 21stCenturyJanes
"YTA"
"What is the point of having AC if you're going to use it to slow-cook your family?"
"If you're trying to save on energy costs TURN IT OFF and open your windows and use fans. Or use it to actually cool the house."
"(Opinion from an Aussie who has no AC and over 100F high temps for summer)."
"Also really struggling to work out how his nudity in his bedroom affects you. If you barge into an adult's private room without warning, you're probably gonna see skin. Just knock." - 286Hog
"YTA. Let the adult man living in your home wear what he wants in his own room. He's putting on clothes when he's around people, so what is your actual problem."
"And what is this 'if we start knocking' thing? Do you not knock when you go into his room? Are you those 'no one has a right to privacy in my house' parents?"
"And 85 is way too hot for most people. I lived in the desert, where it would routinely get over 110, and if my house was 80, it was almost unbearable."
"He's just trying to make the best of the crappy temperature situation-which is your right, as it's your house and you pay the bills."
"But let the guy hang out in his underwear in his own space." - Very_Stable_Princess
"YTA. If he is in his own room and not wandering around in the common areas in his underwear then why is this a problem?"
"He is 19. You absolutely should always knock before entering his room - and don't forget to wait until he says you can enter."
"Why on earth can you not respect HIS PRIVACY!" - another_online_idiot
"YTA."
"87 Fahrenheit is like 30 degrees, right? You are setting this high temperature in the summer and still complaining?"
"What is wrong with you? Between 20-22 degrees (68-72 Fahrenheit) is normal temperature, not 30 degrees!"
"(The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language identifies room temperature as around 20–22 °C (68–72 °F),[1]…"
"…while the Oxford English Dictionary states that it is "conventionally taken as about 20 °C (68 °F)"
"He is wearing clothes when he needs to interact with other people or needs to go common areas, so, what is the problem?"
"Also, you are not supposed to enter a teenage boy's room without his permission." - ThungstenMetal
"If the kid is hot & is respectful enough to put clothes on when he leaves or someone enters the room.... what exactly is your issue?"
"You don't have to sit & watch him sit in his room. Why do you care?"
"eta — YTA — this is silly drama for no good reason."
"If you're going to keep the house temperature set at sweating an** off miserable then you should expect all your family to be wearing just their underwear." - Alarming_Reply_6286
"Good boundaries build good relationships. You are stomping on privacy and boundaries and deteriorating your relationship with your son."
"Unless your son has a medical condition where you would need to rescue him regularly... you should knock first, await an answer, and then only enter when you receive permission."
"It doesn't matter that he's in his underwear in there. Hell, it wouldn't matter if he were naked."
"If you really do barge in, serves you right for being uncomfortable. You wouldn't be uncomfortable if you waited."
"As for 'my house, my rules.'"
"Cool, you wanna take that logic a little further? Can the HOA come in any time because their neighborhood, their rules?"
"What about the mayor? His town, his rules."
"The governor? Her state, her rules!"
"The feds? Their country, their rules!"
"Do you see how much better this goes when everyone respects each other's space? How entering without permission is only reserved for safety concerns and needs a legal document allowing it?"
"Why don't you treat your kid better? Why does it bother you that there could be a single space you aren't in control of? Why do you feel entitled to your adult child's room? Can he barge into yours?"
"Just maybe have some empathy for your own flesh and blood." - SquishyButStrong
"YTA -"
"1. nothing in your home should be so critical you need to enter a room unannounced and if the situation warranted it I think seeing some undies are your smallest worry in the moment."
"Just f*cking knock..."
"2. there are swimming trunks that are more breathable than underwear. You so upset buy him some ask him to wear them."
"Get him a box fan too evaporative cooling is super helpful and less expensive than a compressor and forced air."
"3. your house your temp I won't begrudge you that, but you do not get to set everyone's body temp."
"suck it up don't like the undies, make it so cold he has to wear pants…"
"…but what you cannot do is force your way into his personal space and demand how he dresses behind closed doors..." - noxiouskarn
His body, his choice.















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.