When a friend of ours behaves with strangers in a way that makes us uncomfortable, the second-hand embarrassment can be excruciating.
We're stuck between a rock and a hard place: wait for it to pass, squirming the entire time, or confront the situation, a step that brings its own new set of discomforts.
A recent post on the "Am I the A**hole (AITA)" subReddit showed how one guy handled that predicament.
The Original Poster (OP), known as filthybee_ on the site, used the post's title to give a hint at what exactly went down.
"AITA for calling out my thirsty (desperate) friend"
OP began with some quick exposition.
"This happened Friday night. Me and my friend went out. He had some drinks, and I know how he gets when he's drinking."
"He's the type that tries to talk to every and any girl. No biggie."
Then OP's friend began to confuse him.
"Fast forward to the pizza parlor we decided to go to. We're waiting inside for our turn to order and he starts walking towards the door and calls for me to follow him."
"I ask him why we're outside and he doesn't really give me an answer. I'm thinking maybe we just have to order outside. (There's a big open window with 4 seats and a long table. So the cashier can take orders from inside for the people sitting outside)"
Then it all became clear.
"Anyways, in two of the seats, there's 2 girls. This is when it clicks in my head."
"He asks them if the seats were taken. They said no they weren't taken. He starts up the typical convo that millions of girls have already heard."
"A few minutes pass and they decide to go inside to eat since it was cold."
OP hoped that would be the end of it.
"Guess who decides to go inside too. My friend."
"We're at this long table that's against the wall where people can eat but they have to stand. This guy says he's going to the bathroom and looking for a table."
"He comes back and I ask him if he found a table, and he said yes."
But it wasn't at all what OP had in mind.
"I follow him, and no sh** this guy walks up to the same girls that were outside and he asks them if me and him could sit with them."
"I look at him like WTF."
Eventually, OP was forced to step in.
"Luckily they were super cool. I even apologized to them when he left to check on THEIR pizza."
"So we're eating and they finish and decide that it's time to go. Guess who decides to leave too."
"We walk out. I rush past the girls and tell them bye, praying that my friend doesn't try to follow them anymore."
But OP had more to say.
"While we're walking, I tell him to never do that again and I told him that it was creepy what he did."
"He had the nerves to get upset with me. I haven't heard from him since."
"So, Reddit who's the A**hole?"
Anonymous strangers weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
- NAH - No A**holes Here
Most Redditors agreed that OP's friend was being weird.
"NTA that is not "thirsty" that's fu**in creepy." -- GiftRecent
"Nta. It doesn't seem like it was really cold. They were attempting to move away from you guys. How awkward." -- Kreeblim
"NTA Talking to them at the first table, fine. They said the seats weren't taken, sounds at least neutral."
"Following them inside and especially trying to follow them when they are trying to LEAVE is super creepy. He needs to understand why, or he probably will just continue this behavior."
"Talk to him a little about rape statistics, about the chances being 1/3 (? I think?) that one of those girls has been raped in her lifetime, that there are predators out there who follow girls and expect sex for being nice, that just being a friendly guy can be perceived as threatening in that context."
"I'm definitely not lumping your friend in with that kind of creepy, unless there's more you aren't telling us, but he does need to understand that this kind of behavior makes girls feel unsafe. Hopefully that will help him get it that he needs to change his habits." -- warmgreyverylight
"NTA. They kept trying to dodge him and he refused to take the hint. His behavior was a total turnoff. It's just as well that you haven't heard from him. He'll just do it again the next time he sees attractive women." -- ComprehensiveBand586
Plenty of Redditors thanked OP for his advocacy.
"NTA, and as a lady, thank you, OP, for letting your friend know sh** like this is creepy." -- tinyseed
"Nta. And good for you for telling him."
"Nothing wrong with being friendly. But he followed them inside, and outside, and when they left. Creepy." -- HongKongMother
"NTA - Your friend is acting inappropriately toward them. It seems kinda obvious they weren't interested. Good for you for calling him out on that behavior."
"A lot of guys think sh** like that is okay when in reality he's desperately following girls who probably just wanted him to go away." -- SpectreX10
"NTA. As a woman; I'm glad guys like you exist, I've been in the girls' position before and I promise you they were super uncomfortable but too nervous to say anything because of possible retaliation."
"To the men, please don't think you're an asshole for calling out your creepy male friends, because you're helping make the world feel safe for women to exist in." -- oxythotinn
"NTA. This happened to me and my sister once. It was absolutely terrifying. Thanks for calling him out." -- Whiteroses7252012
OP appears to be left with a couple choices.
Simply let the friendship slip away if the friend continues to stay distant, or make renewed efforts to check the creepiness when they do hang out again.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.