Making a visiting guest feel welcome is usually a house rule.
Who doesn't like to be a gracious host?
But sometimes certain guests have requests or suggestions that may seem... out of line.
When this happens the visit tends to take a sour turn.
Because it's often expected that guests will also be gracious.
Redditor spaceneededaita wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback. So naturally, he came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
He asked:
"AITA For not changing how I live for my step-son's G[irl]F[riend]?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"My stepson, Ben (20 M[ale]), is living with us right now during summer break from college."
"About a month ago, he asked if his GF from college, Liv, could stay with us the rest of the summer because she is going through a rough time at home."
"I wasn't fully on board with the idea because we already have our 2 other kids (11 and 9) in the house and having 4 adults and 2 kids in our space is a lot."
"My wife has a soft spot for Ben and struggles to say no to him, so my concerns were dismissed and now Liv is living with us until they go back to school."
"There have been a few issues that have come up since Liv came, pretty much all of which have to do with me."
"First, one of the big reasons Liv wanted to change her living situation is because her parents are alcoholics."
"Now, I don't drink every day but I do have alcohol in the house and I like to imbibe with a meal sometimes or have a few cocktails on weekends."
"This is triggering for Liv to see a parent drinking with kids around."
"Second, Liv is vegan."
"We eat a lot of meat in our house."
"Pretty much every meal has a meat involved."
"I also hunt, so we eat meat that I have harvested and I have a few mounts on the walls."
"This makes Liv especially uncomfortable."
"Ben and Liv sat down with my wife and me this past weekend and offered some suggestions to help make Liv's time here easier."
"Their first suggestion was that if I want to drink, I should do it in private and not around the kids."
"I tried to interject when they suggested this, but they asked me to let them finish before saying anything."
"Their next suggestion was to allow Liv to cook vegan meals for us so that we didn't eat so much meat all the time."
"She offered to do grocery shopping and meal planning to provide vegan meals for us instead of our usual meals."
"Finally, they asked if I could remove the mounts from the walls of the house until they go back to school in 6 weeks."
"When they finished, I asked if it was ok for me to talk now and they said yes."
"I told them that my answer to all of their suggestions is 'No.'"
"I told them that while I appreciate Liv's offer to cook for us and she is free to cook a few vegan meals for us during the week if she wants, but we are not going to completely change our diets for one person."
"But as far as their other suggestions... not happening."
"My wife spoke up and said that maybe it wouldn't hurt to try their suggestions for a little bit and see how things go."
"She said it's only 6 weeks and that changing our lifestyles a little bit for a short period wouldn't kill us."
"I told all 3 of them that if they want to change the way they live, they are free to do so."
"But they are not going to force me to change the way I live in my own home for a temporary guest."
"I told them if that means I cook separate meals for myself, so be it."
"But the mounts stay, and if I want a beer or a glass of wine, I'm going to have one."
"All 3 of them think I am being unreasonable and that they aren't asking too much of me for a short period of time."
The OP was left to wonder:
"AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA - your wife is correct in that it's only six short weeks, so precious Livvy will be fine and can practice her tolerance skills!!!"
"If she's not comfy, perhaps these free accommodations are not the best for her."
"Hopefully, your stepson wakes up and does not marry this entitled twit." ~ Shutupandplayball
"And OP, maybe have a private conversation with your wife first, and ask her if you and she were to visit and stay with any of your friends and wider family, would she be happy to sit them down with a list of demands for changes to their home and habits during your visit?!"
"Pick some specific examples, especially people who have habits that are annoying or add odds with yours, and see if she thinks it acceptable guest behavior then."
"Literally the only acceptable change request examples I can think of are safety related, eg.. moving glass ornaments or using a stair gate because the guests have a toddler, or no nuts in the house because a guest is anaphylactic allergic to them. NTA." ~ perusalandtea
"I'm sorry if Liv is so 'uncomfortable,' then it might be in Liv's best interest to find somewhere else to live!"
"Rather than disrupting your household by redecorating your home, changing the family diet, and making you go on the wagon or become a closeted drinker!"
"Who does she think she is? NTA." ~ YouthNAsia63
"NTA. This girl is going to have a difficult time adjusting to reality."
"She is getting free housing and wants it to adjust to her."
"You did say some vegan meals are fine, so you are willing to do enough compromising."
"I assume she had been to the house previously and knew what it was like." ~ Having-hope3594
"NTA. This is a great lesson to them that you cannot always control the world around you, and you certainly cannot control other people."
"She is lucky to be a guest and guests should never make the kind of asks she is making; it is not polite or respectful."
"If your lifestyle is so hard for her, then your home is not the safe place she needs, and she should make other arrangements."
"The biggest issue I see is why does your wife think this is okay?"
"Has she been making some similar requests to yours before?"
"PS. I am taking you at your word you drink lightly. If you drink more than two tipples every day, they might have a point." ~ TheEmpressIsIn
OP responded...
"My wife has never made any suggestions like this before."
"But, like I said, she has a soft spot for Ben."
"She had him when she was quite young, and I think a part of her wants to be the 'cool mom.'"
"As for the drinking, I don't drink often."
"Some weeks I will drink 2-3 days."
"Sometimes I will go 1-2 weeks without a sip."
"But I have it in the house, and if the mood strikes or I want to pair a drink with a meal, I do it."
Reddit continued...
"My wife once told me that when we were dating she worried about my drinking because her parents are alcoholics."
"But after a while, she realized that I never drank to get drunk and that I was very responsible with my drinking."
"She mentioned this because I had let my oldest drive us home when I had had a few drinks at a family get-together."
"I stuck to my 1 per hour drink limit and wasn't feeling any effects of alcohol."
"But I didn't want to set a bad example for my kids, so I just handed over the keys."
"It sounds to me like you are providing a good example for safe, moderate alcohol consumption." ~ SonOfDadOfSam
"My dad was an alcoholic (he did stop drinking and died a sober man), but my mom worried her kids would turn out that way."
"She could not shake it."
"Mind you, I have literally gone a few years without drinking just because. No reason."
"Just wasn't in the mood."
"I can take it or leave it, and most of the time, I leave it."
"So, I'm 60 and having a glass of wine, and she comments on it."
"I said, 'I'm sixty. If I haven't exhibited any signs of alcoholism by now, I think it's safe to assume I'm good here.'"
"She finally conceded that was true."
"However, she never ever commented on anyone's drinking outside of her kids."
"Liv is TA here, along with wife and son."
"OP is NTA for any of it."
"The gall. Honestly." ~ One-Low1033
"Your wife is the real problem here."
"She disregarded your concerns about the girlfriend moving in and then has the audacity to back said girlfriend's ridiculous requests."
"She's the biggest a**hole in this situation. NTA." ~ scout1982
"NTA. I believe it is crazy to come into someone else's house as a guest and think that you get to control how they live."
"She gets to control herself."
"She doesn't get to control you."
"She doesn't get to control the whole house."
"I think your wife and son need lessons in appropriate boundaries."
"Liv's requests are not reasonable." ~ SushiGuacDNA
"NTA. The issues Liv has are hers to manage."
"Hiding to drink is much more of an issue than being responsible and public about your intake."
"Offering to cook all meals is nice, but you're not required to change everything about your diet for a long-term guest."
"I think Liv needs some therapy."
"It's good she has a safe place to stay, but she needs to learn to manage her own triggers and work through issues without demanding others change their lives on her behalf." ~ Willing-Helicopter26
"NTA - Your stepson and his gf are young enough to think they get to have an opinion while living rent-free in your house."
"Your wife is weak. Stay strong."
"It's your home first and foremost."
"If they complain they are free to leave." ~ BeeJackson
"Imagine having the audacity to ask your hosts to change how they behave in their own home."
"Absolutely NTA."
"This is a good life lesson for Liv that not everyone in the world will cater to her precious feelings." ~ theworldisonfire8377
"NTA - it's only 6 weeks, so changing her lifestyle for such a short period won't kill her." ~ SunshineShoulders87
Well, OP, Reddit is with you.
This is your home.
You're entitled to live as you wish.
It may be time for you and your wife to have a serious talk about Ben and boundaries.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.