Redditor throwraswoopingisbad didn't think twice to get his 24-year-old fiancée another ring to replace the first one she lost.
But when a pattern started to emerge, he couldn't shake away an unsettling gut feeling.
After the 27-year-old man made an accusation that resulted in a huge blowout, he consulted the Relationship Advice subReddit to convey his predicament.
He wrote:
"My fiancée has 'accidentally' lost/broken three engagement rings now... I'm starting to suspect she's doing it on purpose."
The Original Poster (OP) explained.
"I've been with my fiancée/girlfriend for three years now. I proposed a year ago, but it definitely wasn't out of the blue - she'd been not-so-subtly hinting at getting engaged for months at that point."
"Although we're both somewhat hot-headed, we generally have a good relationship and we occasionally only fight about small, normal things."
"I know NOTHING about jewelry, but I spent a lot of time looking for the right ring to propose with. I talked to two of her closest friends to get their input, and in the end I spent around $4000 on the ring."
"When my fiancée saw it, she told me she loved it and I'm pretty sure she was telling the truth."
"This January, my fiancée called me up in tears. She'd somehow lost the ring on her way home from work and she had no clue where it might be. I left work early to come help her search, but since she'd been riding the subway, the ring was long gone."
"My fiancée was clearly distraught, so a few weeks later I dipped into my savings and bought her a different ring. It wasn't quite as expensive as the last, but it was from the same jeweler and still a good make."
"Around June, I noticed one day that it had been a while since I saw my fiancée actually wear her engagement ring. She went pale and confessed to me that she thought she'd taken it off before bed one night and now it was lost somewhere in our flat."
"This time we searched for days and I dug up half the floorboards looking for it, but the ring is (to this day) missing."
"At this point, buying another ring was out of the question (too expensive) so I asked her if she'd rather either a) have a cheap replacement ring (under $50) until after we're married, or b) go without a ring for now. She chose option b."
"One day we were visiting my grandmother, who asked my fiancée where her ring was. When we told her it was lost, my grandmother was kind enough to give my fiancée one of her rings instead."
But like a curse, another incident reinforced the notion that bad things happen in threes.
"My fiancée seemed delighted and everything was working out perfectly until this week. I came home to find my grandmother's ring on the table, looking almost unrecognizable. My fiancée cried and told me that she'd managed to step on the ring that morning hard enough to break it."
"I took the ring to a jewelry repair service right away. Sadly they told me that since a few small stones are missing and the original fitting is warped, the ring will never really be the same."
"They also told me that they were certain someone stepping on the ring couldn't realistically cause this amount of damage."
"When I got home, I brought this up to my fiancée and asked her if she was 100% sure she'd only stepped on the ring. She completely flipped and yelled at me asking if I was calling her a liar."
"I mentioned what the jewelry store said, and she started screaming about me only caring about money and the 'cost' of the rings. It's been two days and we've barely spoken, especially as she's only coming out of our bedroom for meals."
Anonymous strangers on the internet were asked if and where guilt belongs by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
- NAH - No A**holes Here
Redditors weighed in with their various takes on the mystery of the rings.
"Start checking pawn shops for the first two rings." – Jen5872
"Like NOW. Don't wait. Go to every pawn shop in a 20 mile radius of both your home and her job."
"I guarantee she sold the first two and crushed the third, trying to sell the stones separately."
"After you find even one of the rings, bring it home, ask for an explanation. If you even suspect for one second that she's lying, break off the engagement because it's clear she has no problem lying to." – CamronCakebroman
"I worked at a pawn shop. Every single thing sold under a person's name is saved. Like basically forever in a database. Even if the shop sold it, it still show up under her name. They even take a picture of it."
"If you call them, you can tell them you bought it and give them her name, give them a description of the ring/s and they will either say yes or no. It'll help if you have a receipt." – TsarinaAlexandra
"I don't know where you're located but diamonds in the US have a number etched on them, so if you have the paper work that might be able to help."
"Once An Accident, Twice A Coincidence, Three Times A Pattern." – CheeseFryConnoisseur
There were suggestions that the missing rings were not a manifestation of her starting to lose romantic interest.
"The only explanation I can think of is drugs. Addiction makes people do weird sh*t sometimes."
"So, total conjecture, but she needs her fix, and she only needs $30 for it. She figures she can get a stone back later (in her mind later that week) so she tries to get one out to trade or sell."
"In her mind, she does value the ring and doesn't want to part with it, so that's why she does it piece by piece. She thinks once she can do ________, then she can get that piece back and it will all go back to normal." – fiddyspent
"My best friend 'lost her ring' too. Turns out she sold it for drug money." – realitycanwait
"Yup my first thought. I worked on a documentary about addiction and one of the recovering addicts (who was in jail) said she was engaged and her fiancé had no idea she was doing heroin everyday."
"Heroin a $300/day addiction and many addicts steal from friends and family to support it." – isthishandletaken
"Could be a shopping addiction too. If she had a serious drug habit or gambling, I would assume the guy would know by now." – hector702
"I work in the gambling harm minimisation field, and you'd be surprised at how easy it can be to hide a gambling problem from a significant other. Particularly with the recent increases in availability of online gambling." – nyequistt
"My theory: She tried to sell it, but couldn't and so decided to mangle it so that it would have to be replaced, hopefully with a ring that she could sell." – phishtrader
"Either she's a crackhead or she's just juicing him. Grandmother's ring should be the last straw. OP, ask her is she truly wants to marry you."
"If she pauses for even a bit or it looks like she's pondering on the question, break it off."
"When/If she's ready, she'll run to you about it. I'd have it in the back of my head that she doesn't want someone to think she's engaged. Good luck to you both." – aBillOnCapitolHill
The OP responded to the above comment with:
"While I honestly can't imagine her ever doing that, I have wondered if this is it."
"But confusingly she's always been the more wealthy one in our relationship (better job and her family are well-off) so it would not only come as a huge surprise, I just wouldn't understand it."
He also added:
"She does have a tendency to be forgetful, especially with things like her keys and purse. I've never seen her wear jewelry other than earrings, so I can't comment on how she'd treat other rings/valuables."
Hopefully, the OP will manage to get to the bottom of this, whatever the case may be before he is absolutely certain in moving forward to exchange vows.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.