Though it leads up to a wonderful occasion, wedding planning itself is incredibly stressful and intensive, and the task at hand tends to create some drama.
This often includes one of the very first activities, which is selecting the wedding party, pointed out the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor throwra58374 found herself arguing with her future husband because they could not agree about where to place one of his friends in the party.
When they couldn't reach a consensus, the Original Poster (OP) was shocked that her future husband blamed her for the trouble at hand.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for not wanting my fiancé's friend in our wedding party?"
The OP didn't particularly get along with her fiancé's friend.
"My ([female] 26) fiancé ([male] 28) have been together for four years."
"He's been friends with 'Maya' ([female] 30) for six years. They're fairly close but she doesn't like me much."
"It's usually not an issue, some people just don't mesh. We don't mesh."
"There's no heavy animosity and we can be near each other fine, we just don't talk when we are. We don't actively hate each other, just prefer not to hang out together."
"She isn't against us getting married and likely would say yes to being a bridesmaid to make him happy but isn't pushing for it herself."
The couple could not agree about including Maya in the wedding party.
"We're recently engaged and he'd like her to be a bridesmaid. I don't."
"He wants her in a dress matching my bridesmaids, on my side, participating in the things we're doing."
"I said absolutely not, she doesn't even like me. I've seen wedding photos where one bridesmaid clearly doesn't want to be with the bride and I don't want that. Plus, I really only want the women closest to me as bridesmaids."
"I suggested she wear a black dress to match the men's tuxes and be a groomswoman."
"He said that will look dumb and he doesn't want to do that."
The groom blamed the OP for Maya not being involved with the wedding.
"Because he's dead set against including her on his side with the men and their activities, and I'm dead set against having her with me and my bridesmaids, he's said I've effectively said she can't be in the wedding."
"I argued he's just as much at fault for not budging as I am, but he said I'm the one being unreasonable."
"Mind you, his only reason for not wanting her with his groomsmen is, 'That's dumb, just let her be a bridesmaid.'"
"AITA for not budging and basically keeping her out of the wedding party, according to my fiancé?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some said the bride had the right to say who would be included on her side of the wedding party.
"NTA. His friend is his responsibility, not yours."
"He accuses you of saying she can't be in the wedding... as if you aren't allowed to not want her in it. As if it is a bad thing not to want her in your side of the wedding party."
"Girl, you're absolutely entitled to not want her in your wedding. She doesn't like you, you don't like her, why would you be in the wrong about not wanting her?"
"Don't argue that point anymore. Say it outright that he's right, you don't want her in your wedding party, so he can either invite her to be a groomswoman if he wants her in the wedding party or shut up and stop pestering you." - taway425698
"How does he get a vote on your bridesmaids??? Stick to your guns, don't have that bad juju standing by your side at such an important time. NTA." - alhajjbvfgfhgtrfj
"Best friends should stand with who they're friends with."
"Signed, a bride who had three bridesmen and no bridesmaids." - O_Elbereth
"NTA - see if she can do a reading, give a toast, or participate in another meaningful, but non-attendant way on the big day."
"She is not bridesmaid material." - Nina_Innsted
Others agreed and said the groom could include his friend on his side.
"It doesn't look dumb to have girls on the groom's side. We had that. They wore dresses that matched what the other groomsmen wore and it looked great!" - qrczakvcxvdfshr
"NTA."
"It's crazy because she can be in the wedding if he gets over a woman being in his 'guy group.'"
"There are other ways to include her in a wedding. If he's so dead set on it, he can brainstorm a little bit. He also seems to be going very rigid with the rules."
"He can have a woman with his groomsman and she could not go to some of the more 'bro' events. Like she'll go to dinner and a few bars, but if they choose to go to a strip club, she leaves?"
"He thought he could stick them together, and OP wouldn't care or the time together would make them like each other."
"It's weird that it's not 'wrong' for him to not want her in HIS party, since it's HIS friend, all because she has tits. Ridiculous." - mongoosedog12
"NTA and that is his responsibility, not OP's."
"Although, I can't see from OP's post any issues with the friend, other than they don't get along. As OP said, some people just don't mesh together."
"That being said, it would be unfair on the husband for his friend not to be invited to the wedding just because they don't get along, as it is the husband's wedding just as much as OP's, AS LONG as there haven't been any events that would justify not inviting her."
"Asking her to be a bridesmaid is too much of an ask, and if the husband really wants her to be a special part of the wedding, she should be a groomswoman, or as another commenter suggested, she has a special toast." - Makaveli2020
"I will bet you $$$$$ (money) that he doesn't want her as a groomsman because he doesn't want a woman at his bachelor party." - chipdipper
"The fiancé could solve this himself by putting her on his side. It should never have been an issue."
"The fiancé's wants trump OP's comfort, and he is also unwilling to do a simple thing to increase her comfort. They could have both and he still refuses. He wants it entirely his way." - LilyMooCow
Some were concerned about what this altercation meant for their future marriage.
"Am I the only one thinking that the reason that Maya doesn't get on with OP, is that she is in love with OP's fiancé/had a previous relationship with the fiancé that OP doesn't know about/is currently still in a secret relationship with OP's fiancé?"
"Everything about this question makes OP's fiancé look immature, unreasonable, inflexible, and sexist; but the fact that he's more worried about putting Maya into a bridesmaid role, despite OP saying no, makes me feel like Maya is more important to him than the bride."
"OP needs to get to the bottom of why her fiancé is choosing Maya's involvement in the wedding as his hill to die on."
"Also, I'm not sure that OP should rush into this marriage when there are so many red flags about her fiancé's whole attitude and approach."
"It doesn't bode well for a long and happy marriage!" - Beeesh1
"Have you asked him to REALLY think through what's he's asking of not just you but his friend?"
"1. She'll have to shell out money for all sorts of things like dresses and parties."
"2. She'll have to dedicate a lot of hours to wedding events where she'll be hanging out with people she either doesn't know (your other bridesmaids) or doesn't like (you). I'm also guessing your friends know you guys don't love each other, so she'll be automatically the odd one out."
"3. She'll know you had to be pressured into including her and will likely be hurt/confused about why your SO (significant other) doesn't want her on his side."
"He's also asking you to take all of the happy joyful moments of being a bride (many of which are emotional and intimate) and share them with someone you don't like or trust."
"Why would you want to be in your underwear in front of her as you put on your dress? Why would you want to have to make small talk with her while getting your hair/makeup done? Why would you want to be vulnerable in front of a person who's made it clear they don't even like you at your best and strongest?"
"Honestly, if he continues to push this AND put the blame on you for her not being in the party (he could absolutely include her as a groomswoman or even a f**king flower girl or something; folks are creative as s**t with their parties these days), I'd really take a hard look at your relationship, because that's a huge red flag." - puffinprincess
"This can be a sign for things to come for their marriage. He shouldn't be forcing her to do something she doesn't want to do."
"She had no relationship with his friend and they don't get along. Why is it so important for him?!?!??"
"I would hold off on any wedding plans to show the fiancé that OP is serious about this." - MRHS95
Though the future bride wondered if it was her fault that Maya might not be in the wedding after all, the subReddit insisted it was as much the groom's fault, if not more so, as it was hers.
Maya was the groom's friend, after all, and while women are still not typically included in groomsmen activities, it would still make more sense for Maya to show emotional support to the groom than to the bride.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.