Content Warning: Open Relationships, Emotional Affairs, Cheating
For a lot of couples, the longer their relationship goes on, the more predictable it may become, leading the couple to try out some new things to keep their situation from becoming boring.
But generally, when a couple decides to open their relationship, it's often for the wrong reasons, cringed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor KindImagination726 was reluctant to open his marriage when his wife suggested it, because he believed in monogamy and emotional connections before sex.
But when he found someone who treated him far better than his wife, the Original Poster (OP) realized the open relationship might not be the problem, but the marriage itself.
He asked the sub:
"AITAH for finding someone else when my wife opened our relationship?"
The OP was reluctant to enter the open relationship his wife had suggested.
"I (29 Male) and my wife (30 Female) have been together for seven years and married for four."
"Last year, she came up with the idea of an open relationship to try out new things."
"I said it was not something I was comfortable with and that I would like to stay monogamous."
"It felt weird because it came out of nowhere. We were doing good and planning to build a family together."
When the OP finally agreed, his wife set some ground rules for the open relationship.
"After my reply, she insisted a lot. In the end, I decided to give it a try."
"Here are the boundaries she set:"
"1. You should always prioritize the spouse instead of the other partner."
"2. Always use protection."
"3. Do not bring the partner to the shared house."
"4. Do not form overly emotional connections."
"I told her I was not sure if I could do some of these things. I am an emotional person, though I love the physical part, too."
"She said it that it was okay, and that I would be able to do it because it's hard for men to form emotional relationships in such cases anyways."
The OP was surprised by how quickly he could find someone else he liked.
"She found a partner quickly and easily."
"My wife was my first relationship partner, so I was not confident in myself. I did not have great chances when I was in my 20s."
"Eventually, after clearing out most of my work, I decided to try finding a partner in my spare time."
"Surprisingly, I was flocked with interest from younger or around my age women. I knew maturing and aging did a great job for me but not to this extent."
"I started talking to multiple people but decided to go ahead with only one of them."
"When I shared this information with my wife, she seemed surprised but congratulated me. She said she was shocked by how beautiful this woman was and that I was able to get her."
The OP ended up finding much more fulfillment in his relationship than in his marriage.
"It has been 10 months since finding a partner, but the more I got to know them and spent time with them, we formed an emotional connection together."
"This woman is aware of my situation and respects my boundaries."
"I realized I lost emotional and physical connection with my wife over time."
"I know one of the boundaries was about emotional connections and prioritizing the spouse, but I told her from the beginning I was not sure if I could comply with some of these."
The OP's wife lashed out at him for how his experience was going.
"I had a difficult talk with my wife last week about my situation."
"She immediately offered to close the relationship and to go to couples counseling, but I am not interested, to be honest."
"She feels no different than a friend to me now, and I am afraid I built resentment for her due to the open relationship situation."
"I told her it would just extend the misery for me and I would like to have a divorce."
"She flipped and cried, saying I was throwing everything away just for a fling."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that his wife was the one to blame.
"How much you wanna bet that partner she 'found' quickly was lined up already? Given she suggested that new arrangement out of nowhere and then conveniently 'insisted a lot' until he gave in,100% that other dude was already around in some way." - SamaireB
"She's discovering the consequences of falling for the toxic bulls**t that 'men don't really form emotional connections.'"
"Like literally, the man she claims to love is standing in front of her, telling her he would find it difficult to form a sexual relationship without there being an emotional connection, and she's just dismissing his lived experience like, 'nah!'" - MichaSound
"NTA. Your wife took a huge risk opening up the marriage, and you were honest with her about your emotional connection personality. She is facing the consequences of her actions, in my opinion." - Sour_Patch_Cats
"NTA. I honestly don't understand the reasoning behind these 'pacts.'"
"I've always believed that the initiate is just looking for something else but hasn't the courage to fully let go of what's in front of them. It's not fair to anyone to be in that sort of situation, and to put someone in that situation, in my opinion, just means you have zero regard for the other person's feelings."
"Better off without that one, OP."
"Good luck with your future." - kizzgizz
"She found a partner quickly because she already had someone in mind. Just get a divorce, the open relationship was forced upon you and you've now lost all feelings for your wife. Why prolong the inevitable?" - neanderbeast
"She wanted this specifically to test drive OP's replacement. She had that guy all teed up. Guessing all this was about that guy."
"Then the script got flipped... oops! This whole exercise was done to facilitate her cheating and possible monkey branch."
"Divorce her, OP." - TouristImpressive838
"Even if you didn't realize, your feelings for your wife started fading the minute she asked to open the relationship. Now you found someone better, and who you have stronger feelings for."
"When you get divorced, make sure you let her know this happened because of her insistence to open your marriage. Hope the other guy was worth it." - nick4424
Others were disgruntled by how the OP's wife had clearly taken advantage of him.
"I found it particularly insulting of the wife that, when he found a very attractive woman, she said she was surprised he got someone that attractive."
"It sounds like she thinks little of her husband as a person or a man."
"She just likes the security of being married, but clearly wanted excitement at the same time." - bmyst70
"The wife was both surprised that OP found someone, and then surprised again at how beautiful the woman was."
"I don't think his wife ever expected OP to do anything with the open part of their relationship, and she definitely didn't seem to have considered how she would feel about it if he did have a partner, even if the boundaries on the arrangement hadn't slipped."
"OP, NTA. You didn't 'throw everything away for a fling' that sounds like a projection on your wife's behalf, who seemed to have someone lined up very quickly." - Thanmandrathor
"I just came to say how rude of her to say she was shocked you were able to get your new lady. What a jealous beach. Glad you made an upgrade. Your ex may be more careful about what she wishes for next time." - Weezy_Baby_
"NTA. This is usually what happens! Wife didn't think you would find someone, and she is out having fun, now that you are, she wants to close it."
"Truthfully, your marriage was over when she opened it." - SnooWords4839
"When people suggest opening a relationship out of the blue, usually means they have already cheated and now need a loophole to cover up what they have done."
"It's obvious you are not made for this lifestyle and your wife has realized she is happy to cheat but not happy for you to find someone else. But she should have considered the fact MUCH sooner that an open relationship is a two-way street. NTA." - rebootsaresuchapain
"You're monogamous. You can only become emotionally and romantically interested in one person at a time."
"By opening the relationship, she made it so that you could form this connection with something else, therefore diminishing the connection with her."
"NTA."
"You haven't done anything wrong. She shouldn't have forced the open relationship when you told her you wanted to stay monogamous. She has brought it upon herself."
"Hopefully, you can have a stress-free breakup and enjoy your future with your new partner." - FemalePheromones
"She 100% already had a guy lined up and was either already cheating or planned on it. Then she decided to do everything to get an open marriage so she could f**k this dude without all the guilt and then go back to the OP when the other guy got bored with her. But it didn't play out how she wanted."
"She expected the OP to just sit back and not find anyone since obviously, he wanted to stay monogamous, but he searched and found someone pretty quickly."
"Now he's about to have a nice wife that loves him and only him, not some fling, and it basically guarantees an open relationship won't be a thing with his new girl." - NoddingRN
If "f**ked around and found out" could be embodied in a story, the subReddit agreed this absolutely had to be it.
Because of the OP's future ex-wife's insistence on the open marriage, it was clear there was someone she was already interested in pursuing, but without the guilt and repercussions of cheating.
But when she expected her husband to stay monogamous for her and even underestimated how nice of a woman he could "get," it was clear that she had been taking advantage of him for a long time, and opening the relationship was only the beginning of the end.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.