Every relationship is unique.
The circumstances of their lives, the various idiosyncracies that everyone involved has, not to mention how they all relate to one another.
So, it can be difficult to judge another perosn's relationship by the standards to which you hold your own.
What happens, then, when someone tries to do just that?
That was the issue facing Redditor and Original Poster (OP) question18282 when she came to the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for judgment.
She asked:
"AITA for telling my friend her wife doesn't wear her wedding ring at work?"
OP began with a quick bit of history.
"I've (33F) been friends with Charlotte (33F) since we were little girls."
"Despite being close to her and her daughter (5F), I don't really see her wife Avery (35F) much."
"She doesn't get along with most of our friends with Charlotte and is a private person which is extremely fine."
"Avery is a Cardiologist."
She explained how this all came about.
"My Mother in law's sister is sick and I asked Charlotte if she could arrange an appointment for us from her wife."
"She called and said she had arranged it. I decided to accompany my MIL and her sister to the office."
"It all went well but I noticed Avery did not have her wedding ring on."
"During the whole visit, she did not even mention Charlotte until I said something."
"And everyone addressed her as Dr while the other times she insisted on Mrs."
Suspicious... very suspicious.
"It was kind of weird to me because she always has worn it when I've seen her. (Actually, the few times we were out, Avery always wore her ring and acted like it was very important to her)."
"I don't know what was going on, but I thought, as her good friend, I should mention this to Charlotte."
"The next time I met up with her, I said I had noticed that Avery was not wearing her wedding ring at her office."
"She laughed and asked me what I was getting at, and I said I just wanted to mention what I had seen, and I didn't mean anything."
"Charlotte said Avery is a very 'by the book' person and never wears any jewelry in her office or at the hospital."
"I apologized and only said I thought it was weird that she didn't wear it and didn't mention anything about her wife despite knowing who I was."
"Charlotte told me she just explained and that I needed to let it go. I let it go, but she is still clearly upset."
OP was left to wonder,
"My other friends told me I should not have mentioned it and I should apologize to Charlotte. I still smell something fishy going on, but I don't know."
"AITA?"
Having explained the situation, OP turned to Reddit for judgment.
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided: YTA
Some were confused by OP's actual issue.
"YTA"
"So your issue is that she didn't bring up her personal life at work and complies with well-known recommendations that rings interfere with medically appropriate hand washing protocol?" ~ madelinegumbo
"And against any medical practice policies that you wouldn't be horrified to go to."
"Even most fast food restaurants say you can't wear a ring if it'll risk tearing your gloves, yet OP thinks a cardiologist should have worse hygiene than a Burger King." ~ MagicCarpet5846
"YTA"
"A lot of people in medical fields don't wear their wedding rings to work. And why would she bring up her wife at your MILs appointment? It's a cardiology appointment, not a social call."
"None of this is remotely weird except your behavior in this situation." ~ strikingfirefly
"YTA."
"Lots of people don't wear their rings to work in the medical field."
"It tears through gloves. They might be doing procedures, etc., it means literally nothing."
"As far as not bringing YOUR friend up to your MIL… why would she??"
"She wasn't there to chit-chat with you."
"You were irrelevant to the whole visit, actually."
"Some patients prefer the doctor to assess and talk about THEM when they're paying for their time, not their daughter in laws friend."
"Also, I'm always cautious to mention if I know someone related to the patient."
"I've found that sometimes it can make some patients concerned about whether or not their info is going to be shared with their friend, even if it's just a casual "Oh I saw so and so in the ER today."'
"Obviously, I'm not going to do that, but a patient doesn't necessarily know me well enough to trust me or feel comfortable in that aspect, so why would I even broach the topic?" ~ snarkcentral124
Others pointed out the practicalities of it all.
"A lot of people in a lot of fields don't/can't wear jewelry for safety, hygiene, or other practical purposes."
"Medical, electrical, mechanical, anyone that works with their hands has to protect themselves."
"I once saw a guy demo an induction heat dent removal device that made his wedding ring glow."
"If you work with mechanical equipment, rings get caught where uncovered digits won't."
"Even slipping with a hammer while roofing cal causes a finger to swell up, and the choice is to cut the ring or lose the finger."
"At 33 years old, I'm surprised you've never encountered anyone who doesn't wear a wedding ring because of work."
"And don't google degloving." ~ Various_Froyo9860
"In addition to this, I could see LGBTQ individuals not want to broadcast they have an SO and field questions, depending on how out/safe they are."
"Judging by how OP describes their relationship, I don't believe she is in any position to know how out Avery is at work." ~ esaeklsg
"Seconding this! Or she may be out at work and not want to get into her relationship status with patients!"
"There are so many reasons she may not be wearing a ring, and they are all nobody else's business" ~ BellesThumbs
"Queer people are still very much at risk for discrimination."
"Some might not want to flaunt their relationship status out of fear of being harassed or worse - and that's ignoring the professional setting of the instigating encounter." ~ jayclaw97
There were personal stories, of course.
"I am an RN, and once I took my gloves off and my ring popped into a c-diff trash can, I no longer wear my ring at work, lol" ~ Illustrious-Stick458
"My ring would snag on gloves or could come off when I take the gloves off."
"My wife and I both work in the hospital. She works in surgery with cautery tools, so it is not safe to wear rings. We both wear ours outside work but never at work."
"OP is weird. You can't wear wedding rings everywhere." ~ Not-A-SoggyBagel
"I work in a lab setting, not medical, but I wear gloves and get dirty constantly. Rings and other jewelry are just annoying when you're washing your hands 30+ times per day." ~ maximumhippo
"I once swapped primary care providers because my former doctor talked soo much about her personal life that it felt severely unprofessional."
"It actually seemed to interfere with receiving proper care because she would cut me off to talk about something super irrelevant. Really strange to want that in a doctor."
"It really does seem like you had no positive intentions here, OP — hopefully you're oblivious — YTA" ~ pierceisstreetsahead
"YTA."
"Nurse here, there's a universal understanding in health care that you are to be 'bare below the elbow' that includes wedding rings, watches, bracelets, etc."
"It's infection control first and foremost, plus it also lowers the risk of unintentional harm coming to patients from said rings, watches, etc."
"As to her not mentioning her wife to you, it's extremely unprofessional during a consultation to bring up personal life whether you know the person or not."
"She was just doing her job trying to remain professional about it, and your immediate thought was to turn to the worst-case scenario and run to your friend like it was some juicy gossip piece???"
"That's odd." ~ lil_squish6
Not everyone saw OP as the villain here.
"NTA."
"These are very common friend questions."
"I'm guessing by the book; Charlotte means Avery is A H."
"She certainly sounds like one of those pretentious Drs, and Charlotte defends because of the paycheck."
"If you can't ask your friend a common question without her getting defensive and butthurt, do you really want to be friends?"
"Not to mention, a simple Google search shows that most hospitals don't have jewelry regulations. Especially an oncologist who isn't a surgeon." ~ Infamous_Ad_6469
"NTA"
"You were trying to be a good friend, but Charlotte is right. Now you have to let it go."
"I don't think you had/have to apologize tbh, but then again, I don't know the tone with which you gave the news."
"Charlotte seems to have taken it badly, so maybe reflect on HOW you said it to her and maybe if there were other instances you may have come over as 'I don't like your wife.'" ~ Severe_Band4297
Judging other relationships can be difficult even when you believe you have all the relevant information.
Often, it's better not to try.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.