The decision for a parent to work outside the home is usually dependent on money.
But if a parent can afford to stay at home, are they obligated to do it?
A woman getting flak over her choice to work turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback.
The mom-to-be asked:
"AITA for telling my mother-in-law (MIL) I make too much to be a stay-at-home mom (SAHM)?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"I (31, female) am a manager for cyber security engineering for a big tech company. My husband is an internal medicine specialist."
"I make over 200k a year, and he recently started making his full salary around 400k. We had our first child around 2 years ago, and I'm pregnant with our second."
"My family is pretty open-minded about it, but my husband's family are old fashioned, and since we are Japanese, there is a consensus from them that women who are married with children shouldn't be working."
"My husband is very lucky he has fewer loans than other doctors. Just over 130k, but that's because his family paid a lot of it off already."
"So I've been getting 'hints' from them that I should be a SAHM and leave the money-making to my husband. I don't want to leave my job, and my company is relatively understanding."
"I got six months off (3 months with full pay and 3 months without) for my first child and was able to keep my current position. The male members of my team are also able to take paternity leave."
"So I don't see why I have to leave my job. I also paid most of the bills while my husband wasn't making much as a resident."
"My aunt was a SAHM, and to make more income in her retirement, she babysits my son. She is also going to be looking after my youngest child when my maternity leave ends."
"I have also been guilted by other moms (especially my husband's coworker's wives) since most of them who are not also doctors become SAHMs. But I don't see why I need to."
"My husband and I outsource all our cleaning, grocery delivery, lawn maintenance, etc... so all we do is cook. So almost all our time at home is spending time together as a family."
"And apart from the rare occasion, we both work 9-10 hours a day with me working a bit less as I don't have a commute. Even then we still save a lot more than if I were a SAHM."
"But my MIL has commented how it's not right I outsource these things because a mother shows her love by cleaning after her kids and husband."
"My MIL recently came over, and while eating dinner, she said the food was great and complemented me, and I said my husband made the food."
"He finished work early, and I was in a meeting with a customer. She was shocked and said it wasn't right that my husband has to do any work after his long shift."
"I got annoyed and said that I was working longer than him today, and she said well, then you should quit, so you don't need to."
"I got mad and told her I save over 12k a month after paying to outsource things I didn't have an interest in doing anyway."
"And with that money we can send our children to top schools and have undergrad and probably grad school paid for."
"So it's ridiculous to expect me to quit just because she has old-fashioned ideas that women need to be on their knees scrubbing away."
"My MIL was offended, but my husband told her it's already been settled, and I'm going to still be working."
"But everyone always telling me I'm a bad mom if I don't quit my job has me worn down."
The OP summed up their situation.
"I might be the a**hole for telling my MIL rudely why it's ridiculous that she wants me to quit my job."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"Youʻre not a bad mom."
"Tell them that when they pony up the $200,000 you make annually, then youʻll be a SAHM. But until theyʻre willing to pay that amount, that they have no say so in the matter."
"Or more politely, tell them, 'The matter has been settled and is not up for discussion'. Then you and your husband have to agree to back that up with action."
"Meaning if your MIL brings it up in your home again, you both ask her to leave. If you are in her home, both of you leave. Phone conversations are ended. Texts are left on read."
"Do this with everyone; do it consistently (both you and your husband), and they eventually get the point. But it wonʻt work unless your husband is also 100% on board. NTA." ~ Dana07620
"NTA—never make excuses for your well-thought-out plans. I'd like to suggest that you stop taking things as an insult and recognize what's happening to your poor MIL and all those SAHM doctors' wives."
"They had to find meaning in cleaning up and putting everyone else's needs and wants ahead of their own. They bought the patriarchy with their personal dreams and hopes for what they could have been."
"Because as much as there is fake glorification in being a traditional wife, our society sh*ts on that life so hard, and there is NO social network to keep these women from being poor and without healthcare if the husband decides he wants a younger model 'because he deserves it, he's worked so hard'."
"I was a SAHM for seven years only, and I gave up my career. I had to change careers because after 7 years, my skills weren't marketable in my field."
"I'm crushed by how much less my retirement fund is compared to my husband's. I love my kids, but their purpose is to fly and live their own lives."
"I have nothing but happy memories of that time, but I acknowledge I gave up too much. You are choosing not to set yourself on fire to keep your family warm."
"In all these women's heads, they are taking your choices as a rejection of their choices. Hopefully, this will help you be more empathetic to the confusion your MIL has with your family and future compared to her own."
"I'm thinking she is thinking in black and white. If you're right in how you're living your best life, then her life choices have rendered her obsolete."
"Try not to take things so personally; this is her life crisis, not yours." ~ newtonianlaws
"NTA. I'm sorry you're surrounded by women who want you to be smaller so they can feel bigger. The idea that motherly love is shown through servitude alone is just so pitifully sad."
"But you have more to offer your family and the world than domestic service. Your expertise, your skills, talents, and wisdom are all very valuable commodities."
"And your family sounds like you're all doing great! Keep it up."
"You're teaching your kids, and your in-laws, that women can be exactly who they are in their entirety. Mom, security engineering manager, wife, daughter, friend, and bada**." ~ External-Hamster-991
"NTA. I can't undo what MIL did with her opinions, but I can share my experiences."
"Even with a good marriage, I was never comfortable with the idea of completely giving up my career. When my kids were little, I worked part-time to keep our income where we needed it to buy a home and because I wanted to keep my professional chops."
"I returned to full-time work when my youngest started school."
"Another consideration is that I would never have to tolerate an intolerable marriage for financial reasons, and my income could support us if my husband were to become disabled."
"I wanted to feel free to spend as I saw fit instead of being accountable to someone else for every penny. I don't think I'd feel that freedom without some income of my own."
"Finally, I was lonely at home. When I was home alone with my firstborn, I was terribly lonely for adult companionship."
"When my husband got home from work, I wanted conversation and to go out; he was tired and just wanted to wind down. Working at least part-time was necessary for my own happiness, and the health of our relationship."
"Don't let your MIL's cultural biases make you feel bad about your choices. She made her choices in a different context, and she seems to have forgotten that part." ~ NeverRarelySometimes
"NTA. I imagine a lot of the comments being made against you from these other moms are stemming from a place of a bit of resentment and jealousy."
"If you were working 12-hour days and not seeing your family at all, it may be a different story but sounds like with the extra income, you are able to outsource tasks that now allow you to spend all your non-work time with your family as well as set them up for them to be successful in the future."
"People like myself dream of being in your position to be able to provide as much as possible for our families to where they will never have to worry about finances in a 'survival' capacity." ~ EnigmaGuy
While friends and in-laws might disagree with her family's choices, Reddit has the OP's back.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.