After a divorce, keeping both parents present in their children's lives takes effort.
But what if a new spouse doesn't want the ex in the picture? Or—as in this case—doesn't want the ex to have pictures.
A teen turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback after a conflict with his stepmother over photos of his father in his mother's home.
Playful-Bit2778 asked:
"AITA for telling my stepmom she's pathetic and doesn't get to boss my mom around?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"My parents divorced when I (15, male) was 5 and my sister was 3. For a while during and post divorce, my dad was trying really hard to win my mom back."
"I remember he would use my sister's and my upset about the divorce. He doesn't really seem to care about my sister or me either."
"Like he used my being upset about the divorce and encouraged me to tell mom repeatedly when I was younger and he'd encourage me to beg her to get back together with him. He'd discuss this stuff during their swap times and looking back he was a huge d*ck."
"He'd also lie and say my sister ate way less than she did because she was so upset. My sister would eat way less for a couple of days after a swap but he was acting like she was starved."
"I can see now how sh*tty he acted. For me it was hard to go from our family being together to two separate homes and families."
"For my sister, the upheaval was hard for her. She really couldn't get used to bouncing from home to home."
"I know mom brought the issue with my dad to court back in the day and while he was told to knock it off and sent to some kind of counseling, custody wasn't changed."
"Throughout all of that mom did her best to shield us and even though she must have hated my dad's guts for all the stunts he pulled, she kept some photos of him and our family from before up in our house."
"My sister and I felt reassured seeing them. Even though my sister didn't remember those times, I think it made her feel a little more okay with how confusing it was, but dad only made it worse."
"Dad gave up on them getting back together eventually and he insisted that everything we had at his house be from him and not mom and we could not have photos of mom in his home."
"I was 8 when he met my stepmom."
"I'm not sure how soon she found out that mom still had photos up of before but it became a huge deal for her and she told my mom she was not allowed photos of 'her man' in mom's house."
"My mom remarried when I was 10. We have a few photos of my stepdad's ex-wife at home and some from when he was married to her and my stepsiblings were young."
"This is especially important to them because their mom is terminally ill with a condition that made her unable to take care of them (I think it's something to do with her brain). There are still photos of dad at mom's too."
"I'm less into it now that I feel worse about what dad did. But my sister still feels comforted by them and mom always says he is still our dad/our family and she wants it to be as much our home as it is everyone else's who lives there."
"The wall where these photos are is where mom takes a lot of our back to school photos. My stepmom found out they were still up and went nuts on my mom a few months ago."
"She told mom she had to do what she says, etc... It was insane."
"My mom told her to mind her business and if she stays out of her home she doesn't have to see or worry about them."
"My stepmom went on a rant about mom a few days ago and she was like how dare your mom not do what I tell her and take the photos of my husband down."
"I told my stepmom she's pathetic for being so bothered that mom was a good enough mom to accept photos of dad for our sake and that she doesn't get to boss my mom around."
"I also told her to leave my mom alone because none of this had anything to do with her. She told me I did not get to speak to her that way."
"I told her if she thinks she's earning my respect with her sh*t then she's even more pathetic than I thought."
"It's been a rough few days. My dad and stepmom both say I was beyond disrespectful."
"AITA?"
The OP summed up their predicament.
"I told my stepmom she's pathetic (twice) and she doesn't get to boss my mom around or tell her what to do. I also talked about her not having my respect..."
"I was pretty angry and I didn't really talk to her the way I would my mom or sorta my dad (lost a lot of respect for him as I got older)."
"Maybe I was being a bratty teen a** when I talked to her because it wasn't like I said anything respectfully."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors overwhelmingly ruled the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"Something tells me your dad is...not the nicest person in the world, based on your post. Your mom clearly isn't interested in winning him back and just wanted to give you and your sister some comfort when you were younger."
"Just like having photos of your mom's husband's ex-wife makes your stepsiblings feel better, especially given that their mom is terminal."
"Your mom sounds like a very secure and kind person who just wants the best for her bio and step kids. Your stepmother on the other hand...NTA." ~ PrscheWdow
"It was also 'beyond disrespectful' for your stepmother to speak badly to you about your mother. That's a line I would never have allowed my partner to cross. Ever. NTA." ~ skillz7930
"NTA—what they mean by 'disrespectful' is that instead of passively obeying them, you stood up for what you know is right. Good for you."
"Might consider having a one on one conversation with your dad about this and let him know if he hopes to maintain a relationship with you after you turn 18, he needs to get stepmom off your back." ~ who_knows2023
"NTA. Also you can make it clear the photos of 'my dad are MINE and MY SISTER'S'."
"'We are his children and we have the right to have the photos we want in our house'."
"And really talk to your mom and make sure that woman (stepmother) doesn't set foot in your house again." ~ Single-Advantage-164
"You were truthful, pragmatic and thoughtful."
"Your stepmonster needs to grow up, and your dad needs to remember that he still has a legal and moral obligation to care for, and care about his children."
"Your mom is a stand-up gal, a real hero! And you're NTA." ~ Flimsy-Wolverine-663
"NTA respect is earned, and your stepmum bad mouthing your mum in front of you is showing you the height of disrespect." ~ plantlady1-618
However one person thought everyone—except OP's mom—sucked (ESH).
"Sorry, but ESH, except your mother."
"I get being bothered by your stepmom's behavior (it's juvenile), but you could have expressed your thoughts on the matter without name calling (calling her pathetic)."
"Just because you feel that way doesn't mean you have to verbalize it."
"Same goes for your stepmom. She's definitely the worst behaved of all of you, but I think you could have done without the name calling." ~ Extreme_Emphasis8478
And one person thought only the OP was the a**hole (YTA) because at 15, he should be seen—not heard.
"YTA. It's not your place to comment on adult relationships to adults. You over stepped and we're out of line. I agree your stepmom is pathetic and need to grow up with her insecure behavior."
"But at 15, it's not your place to comment or call her pathetic. You absolutely have the right to have your opinion."
"You absolutely can express your frustration to your mom and dad, but the way you handled it was wrong. If I was your dad I would pull you aside and we would have a talk."
"I can't have you disrespect my wife. I would also talk to her about how she is handling the situation and she needs to be respectful of our blended family."?
"I would not have that conversation in front of you as that is a conversation between me and my wife."
"I will tell you this there is far more going on than you know. Your parents won't tell you nor should they."
"From an adult perspective we have feelings too and many times we don't know how to handle them in the best way. Just love your parents and realize they are doing the best they can."
"As long as they love you, you are good. Just forgive them for making mistakes and not being perfect."
"Children are supposed to keep their mouth shut. They are not equals."
"But hey I was raised a certain way. I agree the stepmom was 100% wrong, but there is a right way to address it."
"It's not the child's business. The dad doesn't need his child's approval or oversight when addressing it."
"What would I look like addressing an issue about something my wife did in front of a child. That's a private convo between adults."
"My wife and I never embarrass each other in front of our kids. If one of us are wrong we address it in private with each other and not in front of the kids."
"If warranted, we make apologies to the kids later taking responsibility. Sometimes it's needed sometimes not."
"An expectation of parents always doing the right thing is dumb. We are all just winging it as we go."
"There is no definitive handbook addressing every situation. Human behavior is just too complex." ~ Reddit
But their comments were downvoted and disputed by their fellow Redditors.
"The stepmother started it with her comments. If she doesn't want OP to make any comments then maybe she needs to not talk sh*t about OP's mom to OP."
"Is OP just supposed to sit there silent while stepmom rants about his mother to his face? It doesn't sound like the father is about to stop the stepmother, so OP laid it out. NTA." ~ lady_k_77
"You're ignoring the fact that the stepmother MADE IT OP'S BUSINESS by ranting TO OP. So it absolutely was OPs business that they had every right to comment on."
"I'm truly sorry that someone raised you to believe that you have to sit silently while any adult insults your mother, and to believe that children are not 'equal'."
"That's so gross and toxic and it can't have been a healthy or pleasant way for you to grow up." ~ No-Carob4909
While OP was less than tactful in his approach, it was the stepmother who created the confrontation.
Maybe she and Dad should be reminded of an important rule of human discourse:
"Don't start none, won't be none."
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.