Finding a name for your child that you and your partner agree on is enough of a challenge to begin with.
Not helping matters is that just about everyone near and dear to you might have an opinion about what name your child should have as well.
All it can take is one little thing said by a friend or family member to potentially ruin the name you and your partner had finally settled on.
Sending you back to square one.
Redditor Alternative_Corgi301 had recently become friends with a fellow expectant mother.
When discussing names for their unborn children, the original poster (OP) was surprised to hear her friend's choice of name.
As the name had a different meaning in one of the two languages the OP was fluent in.
Eventually sharing what her friend's choice of name meant, the OP found herself being yelled at by her friend's husband for complicating what he felt should have been a done deal.
Wondering if she was out of line, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where she asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for 'ruining' a baby name?"
The OP explained why her friend felt the need to change her mind regarding her baby's name after learning what it meant.
"I am Brazilian, but I've been living in the US for 3 years."
"My first language is Brazilian Portuguese."
"I have a 4yo son, and I'm pregnant with a girl due in May."
"My son is friends with a girl whose mother (I'll call her Becca) is also pregnant."
"She's due a couple weeks before me, and is also expecting a (3rd) girl."
"Since we take our kids on playdates almost weekly, we frequently talk about our pregnancies."
"Becca is into unique names."
"Not 'Yooneeks' or 'Tragedeighs', but names that she and her husband create."
"It's not my style, but she managed to come up with genuinely nice names both her older daughters, so there was never really a reason for me to say anything."
"This time, Becca and her husband had a lot of trouble coming up with a new name."
"She first brought this up last December."
"For months, they'd try to create something that sounded good, with no success."
"We took our kids on a playdate at a park this weekend."
"When we sat down for a snack, Becca excitedly told me they'd finally settled on a name."
"I was really happy for her, and asked what they'd chosen."
"Narina."
"To those who don't know, that's Portuguese for 'nostril'."
"I managed to control myself, and told her it sounded lovely."
"But my son let out a giggle (my husband and I are raising him bilingual, so he speaks Portuguese), and Becca wanted to know why."
"I tried to brush it off, but she kept insisting."
"Eventually, I told her that while Narina could be a lovely name, it was also the Portuguese word for 'nostril'."
"Becca seemed really sad to hear that."
"She said she'd think of something else, but had fallen in love with Narina."
"After we went home, Becca's husband called me."
"He was furious at me for ruining the only name they had agreed on."
"Apparently, he had a fight with Becca because she told him she wanted to think of something else."
"He argued they'd 'never visit Brazil anyway', so they shouldn't have to change the name, but Becca refused to use Narina."
"My husband agrees that their fight is not my fault, but thinks I didn't need to tell Becca anything, since Americans are unlikely to know what Narina means."
"This was not my son's fault."
"He is 4 years old and had an honest reaction to hearing a baby would essentially be named 'Nostril'."
"I get that some people might think I was the AH, but don't blame my child for this."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
The Reddit community was in agreement that the OP was not the a**hole for telling Becca what her name choice meant in Portuguese.
Everyone agreed it would have been much worse for the OP not to tell Becca why her son was laughing, with others pointing out that just about every name has a different meaning in a different language and agreeing Becca and her husband shouldn't be so beholden to the opinion of others.
"NTA."
"I'm shocked they didn't bother googling their name ideas as they came up with them."
"I see Narina as nostril on the first page of search results."- testmonkeyalpha
"NTA."
"It's not ruined."
"They're not even Portuguese!"
"And FFS, they could always change the spelling if their panties are THIS twisted: Nerina, Nirina, Narina."
"Do NOT tell me what awful things THOSE mean."- StAlvis
"I googled it."
"Narina is a type of bird."
"And it means 'fresh, pomegranate flower' as a Persian name."
"NTA but they way overreacted."
"Many names and words mean something different in another language."
"At least the word is innocuous."
"The name Bill sounds like Bil in Dutch, which means buttocks correction, buttock."
"Do you think people are going to stop using Bill as a name?"
"William has to be one of the most common names in existence."
"Tod is the German word for death."
"She needs to chill and just use the name she likes."- Ok_Expression7723
"NTA."
"You want to know what I think?"
"I think that her jerk of a husband would have called you, livid, that you didn't warn them when they inevitably meet someone who knows Portuguese and knows what that kid's name means."
"He's rude."- Hazel2468
"NTA."
"You weren't really given any other choice other than to explain your son's reaction."
"Even if you had managed to brush it off, there is a high chance your son might have spilled the beans at a later time (like after her child is born)."
"Young kids rarely know how/when to filter things, and that goes double if they are a chatty child."
"Knowing the name has an unflattering translation in another language obviously bothers your friend, if she had found out anyway after naming her child she might have been upset with you for not saying."
"This is one of those damned if you do and damned if you don't situations for you."
"But definitely NTA for their argument."
"All you did was give her the truth, it's up to them how they use that information."
"It's not your fault they are disagreeing. That's on them."
"Friend's husband is TA for confronting you."- Doktor_Seagull
The OP later returned with an update, sharing a further conversation she had with Becca, and where things currently stood between her and Becca's husband.
"Thank you for all your feedback and advice on my original post."
"First of all, I want to clarify that I never told Becca not to name her daughter Narina."
"I just told her what it meant in Portuguese, and only because my son laughed (again, this wasn't his fault)."
"It was my translation that made her change the name, but that was still her decision."
"I got a DM about how I 'shouldn't have involved my native language into Becca's choice for her daughter's name', which was also not the case."
"I found no joy in telling Becca what it meant."
"There are plenty of 'normal' names in the English language I can 'ruin' with Portuguese (I've actually been listing some since my first post), but I wouldn't translate them without being asked to."
"Many of you came forward saying that 'Narina' was also a flower, the Finnish word for a creaking sound and an actual Persian name."
"I didn't know any of that, but it was interesting to find out."
"I listed most of the meanings you guys gave me with the intention of showing them to Becca."
"I also got plenty of comments suggesting similar names (Marina, Nara, Nerina, Nerine, etc.), and I wrote down some of them as well."
"Becca and I met for another playdate with the kids, and I showed her my lists."
"I also emphasized that she could still use the name Narina if she wanted to."
"At first, she politely turned everything down, including that last part."
"While Becca said she did like some of the names I told her about, her method consists solely of creating new names with her husband."
"Apparently, they got to 'Narina' by mixing and matching syllables until they had something that sounded nice."
"And finding out the name they'd created for their daughter also meant 'nostril' was enough for her to lose interest in it."
"Becca did love the name Nerina, though."
"She didn't admit it until we were about to go our separate ways, but she said she'd mention it to her husband."
"And speak of the Devil... her husband, as far as I know, is still pissed at me."
"He didn't try to contact me again, but Becca said he rolled his eyes when she mentioned the upcoming playdate."
"Apparently, he's the one who came up with the order of the syllables that resulted in 'Narina', and was upset I'd ruined it."
"I told Becca I didn't want to hear from her husband again."
"She agreed his phone call was extremely inappropriate and promised to tell him not to contact me any further."
"Look, I'm not gonna lie, I'm really f*cking glad they're not naming their kid 'nostril."
"I'm also really proud of myself for holding in my laughter when I first heard that."
"But I know that Becca is a great mother who is perfectly capable of naming her children, so I know her daughter's name will be beautiful."
"I think that's all."
"Becca's baby might be named Nerina (that will depend on Nostril Sr., though)."
"Also, for justice's sake: my daughter will be named Luciana."
"Feel free to translate it."
"But seriously, thank you guys!"
They say ignorance is bliss, and perhaps Becca would have been just fine not knowing what her Narina meant in Portuguese.
But honesty is always the best policy, and after Becca saw the OP's son laugh at her name choice, she was somewhat obligated to tell her why.
Hopefully, Becca and her husband will come up with a unique name for their child that pleases both of them.
You know... one without a different meaning in another language.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.