When we have a special moment to celebrate, it's fair that we'd want our loved ones to share the occasion with us.
It's hurtful to think that they'd need to distract themselves or turn the moment into a game just to get through it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor SalamanderBig6201 recently married their wife after six years of dating and had a wonderful time at the wedding among family and friends.
But when they later found out that their family had been playing a practical joke throughout the wedding speeches, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt by their ingenuity.
They asked the sub:
"Am I overreacting for being angry that my family played a game of 'Slip It In' while giving their speeches at my wedding?"
The OP was excited to finally marry their wife.
"I finally tied the knot with my now-wife, once-girlfriend of six years. (I love being able to call her my wife!)"
"This was about two weeks ago now, and it was a big, beautiful wedding, aside from this one detail."
"We hadn't planned on having a whole bunch of people give speeches, but when we were taking pictures after the ceremony and before the reception, my brother and sister (both younger) came up to my wife and me, and asked if they would be allowed to give speeches."
"Of course, we said yes, and at the time, we were both touched that they wanted so badly to say something nice about us. In retrospect, that was dumb of us."
The OP became suspicious of their siblings' plans when the speeches came.
"The time for speeches came, and my wife's Maid of Honor, her best friend since childhood, and my Best Man, my best friend and business partner, both gave beautiful speeches, tying in inside jokes and making everyone laugh and cry. Even my FIL was crying, which I had previously thought impossible."
"Then it was my dad's turn. My father, the man who raised me and protected me and taught me right from wrong."
"It started out good, and he even seemed a little teary-eyed. But then I noticed he had a little notecard or piece of paper with him, which at the time I thought was endearing, since I figured it meant he took the time to write down his thoughts and perfect his speech."
"But then, as he was talking about my upbringing and what it was like to raise his first child, he cracked some weird joke. He said something about my suit not fitting right, and asked me, 'Did your mom buy you that?'"
"There was some confused laughter, and he seemed to kinda chuckle to himself."
"His speech got back on track pretty quickly, and he briefly talked about sending me off to college, and how sad it was to see me go, before randomly interrupting himself again and saying that 'my roommate's grandfather was the inventor of Skittles.'"
"Again, there was confused laughter, and at this point, I noticed my siblings snickering a little at the table with the rest of my immediate family."
"He finished his speech, making another strange comment at some point that I have trouble recalling. I chalked it up to him being emotional and handling it with weird dad jokes or something."
Then the OP realized what the wedding speeches actually were.
"Then my brother went up, and he started off trying to hype the guests up, acting like a 'cool guy,' saying he wanted to give an anecdote from our childhood. He started to tell a story he always likes to tell, about how he and I used to sneak out to the backyard at night and act like ninjas, until one night our dad caught us and scared us to death."
"But he jokingly referred to our tree fort as a 'luxury porta-potty,' called my dad a 'Sasquatch,' and said we thought we would be 'killed with a k, as in knife.'"
"At this point, I started to realize what was going on. Even my wife was giving me glances. But because of his hyper energy and storytelling, he managed to get away with his jokes far better than my dad."
"My sister went up after him, but at this point, I was feeling such rage and disbelief that I wasn't paying much attention. All I know is she started her speech by asking if anyone was recording, which was some b**lshit, since she literally helped set up the tripod."
"The rest of the wedding was beautiful, albeit tense, because I was stewing at my family."
"When my wife and I got home, she half-jokingly asked me what the h**l was up with those speeches."
As it turned out, the OP's family was playing a game, not giving real wedding speeches.
"For those not in the know, 'Slip It In' is a verbal game where you are given cards with odd phrases on them that you then have to sneak into conversation without being noticed. The first person to successfully slip in all their phrases without being caught is the winner."
"This game also happens to be my family's OBSESSION. Thanksgiving, Christmas, birthdays, regular family dinners, it doesn't matter; they will try to play it anywhere."
"But at my wedding?"
"I explained this to my wife, and double-checked the game, and 'I hear his grandfather invented Skittles,' 'Sasquatch,' 'I hope someone's recording this,' are all example phrases pulled directly from the original game."
"The next morning, I messaged my brother, as he's always been real with me, and asked, 'Was that a game of 'Slip It In' last night?'"
"He responded, 'Ya, LOL, didn't think you noticed. You didn't say anything about it last night.'"
"I just said, 'Oh okay, LOL,' because I just didn't even know what to say."
The OP was hurt that their family couldn't just enjoy the wedding.
"They viewed my wedding as some boring event they had to liven up by playing their game, and they didn't even offer any genuine speeches. They used that time as a playground for themselves."
"It's now been about two weeks since, and I haven't said anything to my family."
"My mom keeps inviting us over for dinner, and my brother, sister, and dad seem to have figured out why I'm mad, and keep texting, asking 'if I'm really all that upset about their speeches.'"
"I just want to spend this time with my wife and not think about this."
"Am I overreacting by giving them the cold shoulder, and ignoring their texts and calls, because they played a stupid card game instead of giving genuine speeches at my wedding?"
"AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Some reassured the OP that they didn't have to make amends for this.
"Wait, does that think you should make amends or they should? They are the ones who should make amends for trying to turn your reception into a game." - Spinnerofyarn
"Do not make amends. It's up to them to sincerely apologise for basically turning your reception into a game."
"It was seriously rude and completely inappropriate. They obviously cared more about their own fun than your big day. I would not bother getting in contact, and when they do, let rip at them. If they don't see what the issue is, tell them to f**k off." - SeaCurrent2933
"Just tell them you're hurt that they prioritized a game over genuinely celebrating your joy, and disengage. Either by going low contact (e.g., you can still attend dinners with your mom and not talk to them) or by doing the Bridgerton queen thing of, 'Congratulations, joy joy, celebration,' as the only speech or card you care to write." - stormtomcat
"Does your wife find this funny? I don't think I would have at MY FREAKING WEDDING. Remember her? It was HER wedding too. They didn't bother to think about how she feels, how she enjoys seeing your family make a game out of her WEDDING on the videos."
"Usually, I have a broad sense of humor, but making a game out of wedding speeches is tacky unless everyone is on the same page. Badly done by your family." - Basic-Organization30
"Congrats on successfully putting a ring on it! It's really kind and telling that you want to be a good sport about this, but I get the feeling being guilted into 'having a sense of humor' is a cycle for you."
"The bit about getting emotional seeing your father's note cards and thinking how much time he had put into this, only to get the rug pulled out that he had the cards for the game, is devastating, and your reaction was so valid."
"You do not obviously have to find a way to make amends. Why would you be responsible for making amends? Is it that hard to take one thing semi-seriously? They couldn't focus on you and your wife for a few hours out of one day?"
"Your wife, who I will remind you, did not sign up to have what is also her wedding hijacked by your selfish family, has to see that now every time she watches the video. Since you didn't say much beyond her visible confusion, I'm going to have faith you married someone who is as good-natured as you and hope she's enjoying the hell out of wedded bliss."
"My family is all jokes, and we aren't serious even when we are trying to be serious. But this would not fly; that's crazy disrespectful. It's fairly clear your wedding was just another family dinner they couldn't get through without the buffer of an improv game. I'd be going to my in-laws for Thanksgiving and let them figure it out, but that's me. I wish you the best of luck." - sunshine_fuu
Others urged the OP to at least communicate how upsetting this was, though.
"Well, the first step is to tell them that yes, you really are upset about it. Otherwise, you might have to wait a long time for an apology, because going from what you wrote, it sounds like they don't yet realize how much it bothered you." - Cmd3055
"If you're upset about it, don't just wait for them to figure out how upset. They noticed you're upset, that's a good first step. But if you never communicate how upset, or what's needed for amends, it might never resolve itself."
"It's not your fault this situation happened, but it's partially yours if it keeps going. Of course, this is only up to a reasonable extent. If you already communicated how upset you were and there's no effort on their side to apologize or make amends, then it's on them." - MoreCoffee331
"For what it's worth, I think you should let yourself be mad and upset; you have every right."
"But at some point you need to sit them down and explain, 'Guys, I've been really hurt. This day meant a lot to me. It very well might be the single most important day of my life to me, and when I heard those speeches, it just made me feel...' or something like that."
"Coming from someone who has to have these types of talks with my family a TON, the apologies come faster when you sit them down and explain why and how you are hurt. When I explain my feelings, and try not to be accusatory or blame but rather just talk about what I'm feeling, they've been understanding and changed their behavior. Slowly fixing my relationships with all of them, but it takes time." - PatchTheLurker
"Honestly, I would be upset, too. It's not about the fact that no one noticed; it's about the fact that, instead of focusing on your big day, they turned it into a game."
"If they wanted to do that, they could have during the wedding reception rather than speeches. Instead of personal loving speeches, they focused on how to make it a competition. I wouldn't say cut them off or anything, but you're completely valid in being hurt."
"You know them more than us. If you think they'll listen to how it hurt your feelings, tell them. But you're completely valid in being like wtf bro." - CutieLai77
This family might generally be all fun and games, but there has to be a limit to the fun, so that some things can be taken seriously, like the union of two people who have already been in love for a long time and are finally taking the next step.
If the family wanted to play this game, they should have involved the OP and their wife in the plans, or they could have done it at a more tasteful time, like in conversations with people they'll likely never meet again from the wedding reception.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp