Content Warning: Cheating, Affair, Grieving Process, Late Husband, Estranged Family, No Contact
Everyone has their own way of grieving when they lose a loved one, but the point that we all have to remember is that there are different ways of losing someone we care deeply about.
When we're betrayed by a loved one in a way that severs that connection forever, we'll have to go through grieving that relationship, too, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor ElkRevolutionary2577 cared deeply about her first love in high school, and she was excited for her older sister when it seemed like her life was beginning when she got pregnant.
But when she found out that the father of the baby was none other than her boyfriend, who her sister had been seeing behind her back, she lost her sister, her best friend, and her first love in a single moment.
No matter what the family tried to say about "making mistakes when you're young," the Original Poster (OP) knew in her heart that her sister would never be her sister to her again, and she grieved accordingly.
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for keeping no contact with my sister after her husband, my ex, died?"
The OP's relationship with her family changed when her sister cheated with her boyfriend.
"When I (22 Female) was 14, I started dating Jace, who was 15 at the time. We were together for three years. We'd known each other for years, and I always had the biggest crush on him."
"My sister Lauren (23 Female now), then 15, knew. She was one of my best friends, and I thought we'd told each other everything."
"But Lauren and Jace were cheating behind my back, and Lauren got pregnant. I didn't know at first and was the first person she told, and I supported her."
"It was only after she told our parents and they pushed her to say who the father was that she confessed."
"I broke up with Jace, who didn't care. He was done with me and wanted Lauren anyway."
"Lauren kept begging me to forgive her for hurting me and begging me to stay close to her."
"I refused, and when Lauren moved in with Jace and his family, it was a relief."
"My parents attempted to force forgiveness on me. They took me to a church therapist, and they had a number of talks with me about Lauren being my sister for life and Jace being just a high school boyfriend."
"All it did was push me away from my parents, and when I turned 18, I moved in with my grandma. I had very little contact with my parents and no contact at all with Lauren and Jace."
The family continued to try to push the OP to forgive and move on.
"They got married just before the baby was born, and I ignored the invite. I ignored when they had their first and then second kid."
"Lauren made several attempts to speak to me and apologize more, but I ignored them, and I told extended family that I wasn't going to change my mind."
"Some were quick to say I was a silly child and I'd regret throwing my sister away. Others said I was so young, and we both were young, and hurting people's feelings when you're young happens, and why couldn't I hate Jace and forgive Lauren?"
The OP's grandmother stood by her side, however.
"My grandma always said nobody was making it better by pushing. Grandma stood by me through all of this."
"When Lauren asked her to help pull off a surprise reunion so she could speak to me, my grandma turned her down. She told Lauren she wasn't coming to the house as long as I lived here. And she told her she would not help her trick me or anything crazy like that."
"Some of the wider family (my parents included) are mad at my grandma, but she said if Lauren can have her 'mistakes' forgiven by everyone else and be allowed to feel and do what she wants, then I should be given the same grace."
"But it was always argued that the difference was I was ending a relationship for good while Lauren made 'a single mistake.'"
When tragedy struck, Lauren tried again to connect with the OP.
"Last month, Jace died suddenly. I don't know what happened exactly, but grandma got the call about it."
"Then more calls came, and they asked me to finally move on and speak to Lauren and support her as a sister should."
"I didn't. I didn't go to the funeral, and neither did Grandma. She said even if she had wanted to, she knew the time would be spent trying to browbeat her into forcing me to reconcile with Lauren, and a funeral is not the place for that, so she was removing herself from that."
"Grandma has been getting s**t from so many people in the family who think I should have let go of the no contact now that Jace is dead. Since I never answer to any family members who think I need to forgive Lauren, they go through her."
"I hate that she deals with it. But she doesn't block them because she wants to see just how far they'll go with her. She said they're helping her trim her will, which I find funny, and I love Grandma's humor."
The OP wondered if she was wrong for not seeing any future for her and her sister.
"But I feel awful that she's getting the abuse the rest of the family can't give me. It made me want to ask if I'm the a**hole for keeping the no contact going with Lauren and if people outside my family think I'm a monster."
"I have the support of friends and also some family. It's just... I know we were young when all this happened. I know that once Jace cheated with Lauren, he would have done it with anyone. So I know it's not like we'd have lasted like I imagined."
"But LAUREN doing it to me just makes it worse because I loved and trusted and was there for her. So she betrayed me and even leaned on me when their cheating led to a pregnancy."
"Ever since I found out, I wished she wasn't my sister. I could never see even a civil relationship for us in the future. But I'm aware that it might make people think I'm the a**hole and not her, especially now that Jace has died."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some reassured the OP that she was justified to feel what she was feeling.
"When people say you were all so young, tell them that may be true, but Lauren betrayed me once, and she will always betray me to get what she wants. Like, once a cheater, always a cheater. I don't trust her or anyone who condones what she did."
"When they say you threw away your sister, tell them she threw away her sister the first time she f**ked Jace."
"Don't feel too bad about your grandmother. She sounds like a bada** rockstar with a steel spine. She has your back, and she's doing it without playing favorites, which is incredibly hard to do." - DeviceMotor3918
"Forget about Jace entirely. Lauren betrayed her sister to make herself happy. Relationships don't work when there's no trust, whether it's familial or romantic." - Used-Currency-48
"This whole thing about Lauren 'making one mistake' makes my skin crawl, because who says it was once? She got pregnant, so I'm guessing they screwed around a LOT more than once."
"So she lied to OP the whole time they were doing it, pretending to be close to her, and then disappearing off to be with her sister's boyfriend. And Jace would, what?, come over to see the OP and then sneak off in a corner to fool around with her sister? Be the OP's boyfriend by day and her sister's affair partner by night, in through the bedroom window?"
"Them framing it as 'one mistake' is bulls**t, because how many months did the affair go on? How many times did they have sex before Lauren got pregnant? How many lies did they tell? It wasn't 'one mistake:' it was a whole series of choices."
"Also, this is assuming that having sex and having an affair is 'making a mistake.' But there are so many steps from making an inappropriate comment or making eye contact a little too long before the two people end up in bed where either person could have said, Wait, this will hurt my sister, or This will hurt my current girlfriend. They could have made a thousand different choices a thousand times and are supposed to be forgiven because they got CAUGHT, by getting pregnant, once." - TheBookishAndTheBard
"I can't fathom why the family is trying to frame this as a 'mistake.' Lauren knew Jace was OP's boyfriend. She knew how much OP cared about him."
"Sleeping with him behind OP's back is not a 'mistake' on Lauren's part. It's a conscious decision she made, knowing it would hurt OP. She didn't care about OP's feelings at all when she was having an affair with this guy and even married him and had two kids."
"I highly doubt Lauren feels remorse at all and would bet money she just wants an aunty/free babysitter for her kids." - Snoo-65195
"There are a lot of other men in the world. It's a betrayal of you, that your sister screwed your boyfriend."
"This might sound insensitive right now, but you should tell your family, 'How do I know she won't screw whatever man I am with behind my back? I mean, NOW she's grieving my ex-boyfriend, but who says she won't be 'lonely' or 'a woman with needs' in the future and try to sleep with my current partner?'" - FiveUpsideDown
"Her awful sister was never sorry! She continued on with the creep and had more kids. For anyone to expect OP to ever forgive her is insane. It wasn't one little mistake. It was a lifetime of choices made selfishly, no matter how bad it hurt OP."
"Then to have the audacity to beg forgiveness and send the flying monkeys. Your sister is a monster, and it is easy to see why after what your parents did and continue to do. They have no integrity at any time. Thank goodness for Grandma!" - Momof41984
Others agreed and applauded the OP's grandma for having her back.
"NTA, not even close! Your grandma is a legend! I'm glad you have her." - That-Guidance-8139
"Grandma definitely is a legend! I'll add that even though she's 'taking abuse,' she has the power to stop it, but she's letting everyone show their true selves. Gran is playing the LONG game!"
"I really wish Grandma a healthier and stronger life because she just made my day by paying the role she played." - cinnamongirl73
"Bahaha, 'She said they're helping her trim her will.'"
"Grandma is EPIC!!"
"And OP is NTA at all. Your sister made a choose, thinking it would be forgivable, sucks to be her and proven dead wrong, but that's the price SHE pays for taking the chance."
"P.S. I wanna be Grandma when I grow up!!" - Used_Clock_4627
"It sounds like your grandma is out of f**ks to give to a**holes and is perfectly fine standing between you and the folks who want to give you grief."
"I get feeling bad, but it's not your fault. They could choose to stop harassing your grandma at any time, and she decided it's worth her time and effort to protect you."
"I'm so glad y'all have each other, and I'm guessing being able to help you in such an important makes her happy" - RivSilver
"What I think the real problem is here is that every time she's confronted by the fact of your absence and avoiding her, it just reminds her what an awful, s**tty person and sister she is. It's like an anchor around her neck."
"The rest of the family see her being hurt (honestly, as she should be), and they want to resolve that, and all you have to do is ignore your pain, lose your morals and dignity, and act like a family member again, 'no big deal,' and they can all go back to their quiet happy live."
"The cost to you is immaterial to them. They just don't care that this silly childhood infatuation you had ended so badly. Clearly, Lauren and Jace were supposed to be together since they got married and had kids. They were the real couple, and you were just a school fling."
"That's all bulls**t, obviously, and your family is avoiding the fact that they didn't do more than throw some disapproving glares at Lauren and refuse to accept that she's a cesspit of a human being. You should NEVER back down on this."
"Grandma is old enough and clearly tough enough to fight this battle, and for all you know, she might even enjoy it." - itsallminenow
The subReddit could not stop shaking their heads over Lauren's behavior and the fact that the family forgave her but pressured the OP to forgive her, too.
Everyone grieves in their own way, and clearly discovering Lauren and Jace's betrayal was the beginning of grieving the loss of a sister, a friend, and a first love.
You can't forgive what's gone forever.















Woman Breaks Up With Boyfriend Who Worried People Would Think She Was Trans For Using Stand-To-Pee Device
Content Warning: Transphobia, Transphobic Comments
There are countless different reasons that a relationship might end, and a red flag could arise at any time. Some of these might have been learned in childhood and could improve over time.
Transphobia is absolutely a red flag that should be acted on immediately; however, with no option to fly again, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor funnelfuss was in the car with her boyfriend when they got stuck in a traffic jam.
She really needed to use the restroom, so since she had a device with her to make the process easier, she decided she'd step out of the car.
But when her boyfriend panicked and thought people might mistake her for a man, the Original Poster (OP) realized that her boyfriend was not who she thought he was.
She asked the sub:
The OP had to use the restroom while stuck in a traffic jam.
"My (26 Female) boyfriend (25 Male) and I got stuck in an insane traffic jam. My boyfriend was driving."
"We were at a standstill. Found out later on, they had closed the highway."
"I had to pee really bad, like bad bad bad. I saw that a couple guys had run to the side of the road to pee, and I decided to do the same."
"It was super open, with a few bushes by the side of the road, really not much cover."
The OP's boyfriend became uncomfortable when he realized she had a pee-to-stand device.
"I have a stand-to-pee device in my car, but when I grabbed it, my boyfriend got all weird."
"He said people would see me pee standing up and think I was Trans."
"I said no one would think that, plenty of women have pee funnels, and that also I didn't care. I have no beef with Trans people!"
"He said I should squat, just to put his mind at ease."
"I said I didn't want to get my butt and c**ch out on the highway in front of everyone, or get pee on my shoes, and I just wanted to be quick and clean."
"He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans and that I should squat, like GIRLS do."
The OP decided she was over it.
"I was dying by this point. I couldn't hold it anymore, and I really didn't want to show the world my butt, so I ran to the side of the road and slipped the device into my jeans and just peed standing up with my back to traffic."
"No one could see anything; it just slides through the zipper. But I guess maybe if someone was looking, they would be confused? But also, who's LOOKING?!"
"When I got back to the car, my boyfriend wouldn't talk to me. He says I disrespected his feelings. But it was 100% an emergency, and I don't get what his problem was."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that there was nothing wrong with using the restroom how she wanted.
"OP, don't think for one more second about this. Your boyfriend is being ridiculous."
"As if you will ever see any of those people again! Plus, holding it in for too long can cause a whole host of issues."
"It's actually genius that you have something like that in your car, just in case. I'm going to order one too now! NTA." - m_alice88
"'Honey, please show all these strangers your c**ch and a** so they know I'm not gay, mmmm'kay?'"
"A weak man, a very weak man." - lefteyedcrow
"You must have a she-wee! Those are so great for women."
"Tell your boyfriend to get over himself. You had to pee. He does not understand that squatting can suck and leave you exposed."
"If he is that upset you did this, rethink this relationship. I would find it hysterical."
"NTA." - Oktodayithink
"NTA, OP. You just needed a makeshift restroom."
"Your boyfriend apparently thought that it was normal for people to stare at strangers who are trying to pee to evaluate who they are, who they're with, and what the status of their relationship is."
"You know, to pass the time while in gridlock traffic." - Pixichixi
"You did nothing wrong, OP! When you have to go, you have to go. It's healthier to go."
"And don't apologize! We're so wired to reduce conflict, even to the point of downplaying how we feel to keep the peace or end the silence. Don't do it."
"It's a him issue. He thinks his feelings on this are more important than your discomfort about showing your naked body on the side of the road. If he can't figure that out for himself and apologize, it would be a dealbreaker for me." - lelawes
Others agreed and pointed out that the ex-boyfriend was very transphobic.
"NTA. Your boyfriend is clearly transphobic. That is 100% on him. And who cares if people think you are Trans?"
"'He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans.' And you don't want people to think you're dating someone bigoted and hateful." - GreekAmericanDom
"He may not consider himself transphobic ('I don't hate Trans people! I just don't want to be associated with them or have anyone think I'm with a Trans person!'), but he absolutely is, probably with a healthy side helping of homophobia."
"Why would he care, unless a) Trans women are not women in his eyes, or b) it somehow would be emasculating or embarrassing to his ego to be with a Trans woman."
"Also, you're in a traffic jam. Who the f**k is even watching close enough to care, and who of those people matters enough to give two s**ts about what they think."
"Not to mention, he's being weirdly controlling about your behaviors and how they reflect on him in a scenario where arguably he's never going to interact with a single person he's worrying about." - maladicta228
"This post reminds me of the time I got dressed to go to a function. It was a casual gathering. My kid (this was solidly on their father, my ex, as he's gotten insanely bigoted as he's aged) said, 'Mom, you're dressed like a Lesbian.'"
"Me: 'Lesbians have great fashion sense, I'd love to be mistaken for one.'"
"They paused for a second and realized that I truly wasn't dressing for men (despite it being my husband's work function), and that being seen as a lesbian was a good thing. I'm so glad I raised them to think for themselves, and realize that one can be wrong, admit it, and work on being a better person every day. They've never said anything like that since." - baconbitsy
"He's so insecure (and transphobic) that he cares more about what some strangers in a traffic jam might wrongly assume about you (and thereby him) than YOUR needs, comfort, and health."
"He expected you to prioritize his insecurities (feelings) above that and then punished you when you prioritized your health."
"You sure you want to be with someone like that?? NTA." - molotovmerkin
"Your boyfriend is so transphobic that he wants you to expose your genitalia on the side of the road to prove that you're not a Trans woman because he can't stand the idea of a total stranger, in a neighboring car, whom he will never speak to or see ever again, thinking he MIGHT be SHARING A CAR (because the strangers in other cars have no idea that you're dating) with a Trans woman."
"You're NTA, but get a better boyfriend." - HighCsummer
"Literally, you have to be super transphobic to think people in traffic are gonna judge you if your girlfriend is standing to pee. Like come onnnnnn, this is some insane insecurity." - Responsible-Pickle-2
Some pointed out that not only was the ex-boyfriend transphobic, but also controlling.
"This won't be the last time he expects OP to sacrifice things or make her life worse so that she can conform to his ideal of feminine stereotypes and keep up appearances for his fragile masculine ego."
"And that he gave her the silent treatment for not obliging his transphobia and misogyny disguised as 'feelings' is also problematic." - blancamystiere
"He's insecure and transphobic. He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort."
"NTA, and honestly, you can do better than this specimen." - PetersMapProject
"NTA. Your boyfriend would have preferred for everyone to see your a** and vagina than have a random stranger think his girlfriend is Trans. He would rather you expose yourself for his personal gain."
"Get a better boyfriend." - Amaze-balls-trippen
"The transphobia? The insecurity? And the silent treatment when he doesn't get his way?"
"So many red flags!" - CarolynDesign
"He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort and safety."
"He would rather you invite unwanted attention and risk by exposing your private parts to the world than have people think he (who most of the onlookers couldn't even see) might be dating a Trans person."
"NTA. OP, he's too insecure, self-centered, and immature to be a good partner to you, given that he's willing to compromise your safety to avoid a single twinge of discomfort. Dump him." - Hari_om_tat_sat
After receiving feedback, the OP was reassured and shared some positive updates.
"UPDATE: Thank you, everyone, for helping me feel sane again!"
"I got quite a few questions about which device I use, and honestly, it's about what fits you best. There are a ton of options. It's what fits you. Check out pStyle, Freshette, and EllaPee."
"I tried peeing standing up in a toilet, and it worked fine. I think my aim was pretty good, but then I saw little droplets on the floor. No thanks, don't need that. Also, it's loud? Awkward."
"But for the outside, it's pretty fun! I drive a lot, that's why it was in my car. Lifesaver."
"Also, I guess in this case it brought out an ugly side of my (ex) boyfriend and clarified some stuff for me. A winner all around."
"And to all the commenters asking, YES, he is an ex-boyfriend now."
"And yes, there were other red flags."
"Ditched the man, kept the pee funnel. Gonna laugh at him every time I pee standing up."
There's no way to imagine just how awkward the rest of the car ride was after using the restroom and returning to the now-silent and very entitled boyfriend, still stuck in a traffic jam.
But fortunately for the OP, she learned something vital about her relationship during a moment that should have been a total non-issue.
By being concerned about this and expecting the OP to prioritize her ex's pride over her comfort, safety, and cleanliness, her ex told her everything she needed to know.