Though this doesn't work for most people, there are some of us who will try our best to maintain positive relationships and friendships with the people we've dated.
This is especially true for people who were married, especially for a long time, pointed out the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor SeaDebt8559 was married to his wife for seventeen years, and now that they were divorced, it was important to him to try to maintain a friendship with her and keep her in his life.
But when she immediately moved on to date his former best friend, the Original Poster (OP) felt a strange combination of feeling hurt and confused, despite trying to move on.
He asked the sub:
"Am I overreacting by being upset that my ex-wife of 17 years immediately started dating my former best friend?"
The OP had a falling out with a former friend.
"I want to start by saying that I THINK I probably AM overreacting and that my intention is to just learn about myself."
"There's this guy, Mark. Mark and I were best friends in high school and intense musical friends."
"We played in dozens of bands together, went to college together, and toured together."
"A few years ago, we had a falling out. I wouldn't call it 'ugly,' but there was definitely some significant dysfunctional energy."
"It's my belief that he was quite a jerk to both me and my ex-wife on numerous occasions, particularly when alcohol was involved."
"He's been particularly rude to me, saying some pretty horrible things about me to a friend."
The OP was surprised when Mark and Kate showed an interest in each other.
"My ex-wife, Kate, and I got divorced in July. It was as much of us growing apart as anything."
"We're still on good terms and have felt like great friends recently. I've hoped we could remain friends for years."
"I entered a new relationship in November."
"Now, Kate and Mark have started dating."
"I want to be clear, I do NOT have an issue with Kate dating. I want her to move on and be happy."
"But this particular relationship just makes me want to puke."
"Mark has been a huge source of stress in our lives for years, and ending that friendship was incredibly painful."
"This situation has my blood boiling. I've talked with some of my friends about it, and the unanimous feedback has been, 'What the f**k?!'"
"It's her life and none of my business, but I can't help but feel betrayed by Kate."
The OP also felt really conflicted.
"I have one additional question. What does it say about me that I feel this way in a new relationship?"
"I have absolutely NO interest in Kate. Why specifically does this bother me? The logical side of my mind tells me that I should just laugh and put it out of my head."
"I have a wonderful new partner. I'm not sure why this bothers me so much."
"AIO?"
The OP later updated the post with information he realized might be important:
"I'm terribly sorry to add this context so late, as so many of you have graciously commented already, BUT one thing I should've said up front."
"A HUGE factor in this situation is that Mark has a history of domestic abuse. To my knowledge, there was an incident a few years ago (after he and I lost touch) where the cops were called (by his now-ex) because he had some kind of mental break and started smashing stuff in the house with a baseball bat."
"Unfortunately, this is the second instance I've heard of something like this."
"Kate knows this, and unfortunately, I've literally heard her say the exact words, 'Maybe I can be the one to crack the code with him.'"
"So… I don't think my concern is coming from a place of being controlling or overprotective. I feel as if this man is an unstable danger to her safety."
"And yes, on a human level, there's a chunk of my ego that feels a little bruised over the fact that they were both great friends of mine. BUT, unless I'm reading my own mind wrong, I truly believe that my concern is for her safety."
"She's already in quite a bad place emotionally, and I fear this could end in disaster for her."
"I've voiced this. I suppose all I can do is let it happen and focus on myself."
Fortunately, the OP didn't think that cheating was likely.
"Also, who knows, but I think that the cheating theory is very unlikely. She's extremely shy and introverted. She's definitely been a 'go to work and then come straight home' kind of person, and I've worked from home for years without ever noticing anything unusual with her being gone or anything, so… I really find that theory unlikely."
"I think a much more likely theory is that she decided to date this guy because she's so shy, and the idea of someone familiar (even if there are red flags everywhere) is more attractive than the idea of a stranger."
"AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Some side-eyed the story, developing theories from a full-blown affair to rejected advances.
"The most likely reason for a best friend to suddenly become toxic, insulting both the wife and the friend, is that he was previously having an affair with the wife, and she cut it off."
"I think he was toxic because he didn't take the wife's rejection well the first time."
"The tip off is that he ALSO insulted the wife, and he mostly did this while he was drinking."
"He was angry at both OP and his wife, and that feels like the wife picked OP over him. It came out when he was drinking because when he was sober, he was aware enough to realize letting this out would destroy his friendship." - FunkyPete
"Maybe he liked the wife (even subconsciously) and started spotting the things OP wasn't doing 'right' and got frustrated about it. I don't think there's any need to jump to an affair, but it's still... strange." - Competitive-Sail6264
"Maybe they weren't having an affair, but he came on to her and was rejected. That could have the same reaction of him turning nasty." - switchywoman_
"A lot of people have poor judgment and make dumb decisions when they're hurting, though. We have no idea how OP's ex is coping with the divorce or OP dating someone new. It's not that far-fetched." - Curious_Contract2172
"Y'all men are always so presumptuous and quick to blame women. Do you have any idea how often men are mean to women they have feelings for, regardless of whether feelings are returned or not? A lot."
"It's actually super common for men to act like mean children when they're rejected, so I would argue he probably tried to have an affair with her, she rejected him because she was loyal, and post-divorce she probably figured she had a shot at a rebound to a guy who once made a move. Which seemingly worked." - Curious_Contract2172
"I was in a similar situation about 15 years ago where my ex-boyfriend started dating one of my better friends from the college town we lived in. She was pretty messy, and he used to talk so much s**t about her while we were dating, and I used to vent to her about what an a**hole he was."
"Fast forward to our final break-up, I had moved back to my (and my ex's) hometown and drifted away from my old friend group, when who do I run into at the drug store one day but my ex and ex-friend."
"I was already dating someone new, too, so I wasn't 'hurt' to see them dating, more just like, confused? They both talked so much s**t about each other, it was like, were they both just doing that for my sake or something? Were they secretly attracted to each other the whole time?"
"Yadda yadda yadda, they imploded dramatically after a few months, and it turned out they weren't so much secret soulmates as two angry drunks." - Emotional_Emotion113
Others understood what the OP was feeling but encouraged him to move on.
"NOR, but at this point, the best thing to do is ignore it and move on. Neither are in your life anymore, so they don't need to be on your mind, either." - ninjoid
"I think most of us would feel the same way as you do, OP, if we were in your shoes. It's a natural human reaction, but I'd focus on your own happiness right now and enjoy your relationship." - anongirl55
"Allowing their relationship to continue to bother you could negatively impact your current relationship. Your partner may feel like you aren't truly over Kate and aren't able to build a relationship with them."
"NOR, but do your best, for you and for your partner, to let this go and move on." - EnoughManufacturer32
"Sometimes the trash takes itself out, OP doesn't need a 'friend' like his ex-wife. She knows what she is doing… NOR, but if this were the AITA subReddit, the OP would be NTA while his ex would be the obvious AH." - InfoSecPeezy
"If I were the OP, I would ignore and move on. But it sounds like it's a little more complex than 'out of sight, out of mind.' Maintaining a positive relationship with someone you've spent a significant portion of your life with is important, maybe even healthy. It sounds like you can't really avoid it altogether, at least not right now."
"My advice would be, if you want to maintain this positive relationship with your ex, and you truly do believe that you're great friends, maybe talk to her about it, if only to help yourself move past it with the least amount of resentment."
"Mention the stress you felt was put on you both, stress that you don't 'disapprove' of or otherwise care about her dating or with whom, and that you want her to be happy and have love."
"As long as you're being honest about a lack of jealousy and such, a conversation like that might just set you free..." - ChromiumSilk
The subReddit could understand why the OP was experiencing conflicting feelings of hurt, anger, and confusion, but they hoped that he could start to let those feelings go and move on, so he could develop a relationship with his new partner.
But if maintaining a friendship with his ex was that important to him, a conversation might need to happen to clear the air and decide whether the friendship was something he still wanted once he knew the truth.















Woman Claps Back At Overweight Roommate After She Calls Her A 'Skinny B*tch' First
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A person's weight can be a VERY sensitive topic.
Whether someone is considered overweight or underweight, talking about it can cause a lot of strife.
Some people make comments that they think are light-hearted fun.
But that kind of fun can sting emotionally.
Redditor Certain_Nothing_3355 wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback, so naturally, she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I (22 F[emale]) have three roommates."
"Lacey (22 F) is one of my roommates."
"All four of us have a good relationship; we regularly have dinner together, go out together, and hang out at our apartment."
"Sometimes Lacey can be snarky, but usually we don’t really say anything to her or each other about it."
"I just chalk it up to a personality quirk and accept it."
"For context, I am 115lb, and Lacey is 215lb (she’s recently started her weight loss journey and posts her weight online)."
"I promise this is relevant."
"Last night, my roommates and I were getting ready for a night out, and I was in my room with the door open, putting makeup on."
"Music was playing, and my roommates were running in and out of each other’s rooms to borrow clothes and chat about plans for the night."
"Lacey walked by my room to grab something from our shared bathroom."
"As she did, she looked into my room and loudly said, 'I’m so glad I’m not one of those skinny bi*ches that needs makeup to feel good about herself.”
"Before thinking, I snapped back, 'I’m so glad I’m not one of those overweight b*tches that needs to put other girls down to feel good about herself.'”
"And then I went right back to putting on my makeup."
"She burst into tears and told me I had no right to bring up her weight."
"I told her she brought up my weight first, so she had no leg to stand on."
"Later, one of my other roommates told me I was out of line since Lacey has struggled with her weight, and we all know she can make sharp comments sometimes, so I should have let it go."
"I agree, I could have probably been nicer about it, but at the same time, I feel like I was also matching the energy she gave me."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Many Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA. I'm an overweight snarky b***h, and Lacey got what she asked for."
"If we have learned nothing from the body positive movement, it's that NOBODY is allowed to comment on someone else's appearance."
"She drew first blood."
"She won't do it again... lol." ~ kstweetersgirl2013
"NTA. I had a girl call me anorexic all throughout school, and everyone had an issue when I'd call her fat."
"You don't get to make derogatory comments about other people's bodies without expecting it back."
"If I'm going to be an ar*ehole, then I'd fully expect it back."
"I don't see why it should be any different just because she's overweight."
"That doesn't provide her with immunity from having her actions reflected back at her."
"If she doesn't like it, then she should have enough self-awareness to realize she started it and should have expected it back." ~ SleepyDeluxe
"Lacey struggles with her mouth, too, by making such an ugly remark."
"She fired the first shot."
"You just fired back. NTA." ~ YakCertain5472
"NTA. Some insecure big girls think, since being skinny is generally considered conventionally attractive, that it’s OK and fair to disparage and insult people thinner than they are. It’s not."
"They don’t like comments about their bodies or weight, and they shouldn’t do the same to others."
"You gave her a taste of her own medicine, and hopefully she’ll think twice before talking to anyone like that again." ~ draizetrain
"NTA. You’re not in the wrong for clapping back."
"She should learn that you treat others how you want to be treated yourself."
"Not your fault, you returned the favor." ~ turtlesaregorgeous
"NAH, fu*k that. I had a 'friend' who constantly made snide comments on my body."
"She was insecure with herself and lashed out to make herself feel bigger."
"She had the same reaction your roommate did when I started throwing it back."
"Sorry, kids - being overweight isn't a bulletproof shield to protect you from the ramifications of being an as*hole."
"Don't start none, won't be none."
"Either go to therapy and deal with your insecurities, or get it back in your face." ~ Internal-Student-997
"Not the as*hole."
"I couldn't care less if 'that's just how she is' and that she's sensitive about her weight."
"She's an as*hole for being rude for no reason."
"Seriously, she's not being 'snarky.'"
"She's being a rude as*hole."
"What you said was snarky."
"What she said was completely uncalled for."
"Maybe now she'll think twice about insulting people for absolutely no reason." ~ EffectiveNo7681
"I'm going with NTA only because I feel like that sort of behavior needs to have consequences."
"Let her cry and feel bad; if she says something rude about your body, and you give that back to her?"
"Well, maybe she'll think twice in the future."
"I can see why some people went with ESH because, yes, you could have handled it kinder."
"But you're 22, and also you just gave her back what she gave you, which wasn't at all unfair."
"She was rude; you were rude in return."
"She got upset."
"Them's the consequences, hopefully she learned the right lesson here."
"That said, your remark probably really cut her, because underneath her rudeness is likely a lot of insecurity and jealousy, and that's what drove her comment."
"It's not up to you to be her therapist, but if you care about her, you might want to try to have a conversation with her about what drove her to say that to you when you've both calmed down."
"Someone may need to encourage her to get some support rather than taking her angst out on others." ~ Datura_Rose
"NTA and you were NOT 'out of line.'"
"If she’s going to be a b*tch she should expect others to be a b*tch right back, especially about the same thing."
"She doesn’t sound 'snarky,' she sounds like she needs therapy and a proper sit-down to discuss boundaries and appropriate behavior." ~ SteampunkRobin
"NTA. Especially because some people struggle with gaining weight."
"People tell me all the time, 'I wish I were as skinny as you!!'”
"Okay, do you also wish you had thyroid problems that make it impossible to properly digest and hang onto the thousands of dollars I spend on food?"
"My body is killing itself from the inside out, but yeaaaaahhh go tell me to eat another cheeseburger." ~ Dull-Selection615
"See... some of these comments aren't it... yes it costs nothing to be kind, and you don't have to match her energy."
"However, constantly having to push aside her comments because 'that's just how she is' is absolutely not ok."
"Being overweight and snarky are not free passes for her to weaponize and use them."
"Sometimes you need to snap back. NTA." ~ nackle09
"NTA - She was tearing you down to make herself feel better. "
"Sure, she struggles with weight, meaning that was a guaranteed gut shot (no pun intended), but that means she more than understands how hurtful it is to be judged by size."
"Which would make this situation all the more disappointing for you."
"Also, if someone wants to be the snarky friend and make comments like that with no repercussions, then they gotta learn to take some of it back, especially if they cross the line."
"She’s your friend, sure, you could have been nicer, but good intentions only get you so far, and even if she meant it in jest, it doesn’t mean there’s no line to cross." ~ Jedi_Of_Kashyyyk
"NTA. I imagine this isn't the first time she has done something like this."
"You don't have to always just ignore her and let it go; it's not fair that you keep being insulted and do nothing about it."
"I see no difference between what she said and what you said, so if she cried, maybe she'll use this experience to understand how she constantly makes other people feel." ~ WhatTookTheeSoLong
"NTA, she brought up weight first as an attempt to bully without any retaliation; she knows weight is a touchy subject and has made sure no one is allowed to make comments like that to her, but she feels entitled to make opposite comments."
"Do not apologize, but I’d maybe have a roommate sit down and talk about what is appropriate and not appropriate to say to and about others."
"And make it about weight because it’s uncomfortable, but she started this."
"People have all sorts of reasons they are overweight, and some of them really can’t help it."
"In the same fashion, some people are underweight, and you don’t know why they are that skinny, and it’s none of your business, just like it’s nobody’s business why you are overweight."
"Say plainly: these comments about ANY weight have got to stop because they’re harmful."
"From now on, your apartment and your language are body positive no matter what, and snarky comments will get called out as the asshole remarks they are." ~ Netflxnschill
"NTA, as a plus-size woman myself, I would never comment on someone's body, and if I did, I'd expect the same energy back." ~ kpi3zy
Reddit is with you, OP.
You had every right to defend yourself.
Hopefully, you can all talk it out.
Good Luck.