Everyone has a different threshold for what they will put up with in a relationship.
But most of us can agree that lying is an absolute deal breaker, no matter what the other person is trying to cover up, agreed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor throw_a_way_1985 decided that she wanted to get a divorce after she caught her husband in a series of lies surrounding a camping trip that he had suddenly planned with his brother and friend.
When he wasn't even apologetic about lying, and then doubled down, the Original Poster (OP) knew their marriage was on the way out.
She asked the sub:
"Am I overreacting for calling a divorce attorney after my husband lied about who he was with?"
The OP's husband had been planning a camping trip for about two weeks.
"I (37 Female) just need non-biased opinions."
"My husband (37 Male) asked me two weeks ago if he could go camping this past weekend with a friend and his brother. He asked via text, so I know I'm not remembering incorrectly."
"I said I didn't know, because our daughter (5 Female) had a cheer competition, and I'd prefer to not drag our son (6 Male) along for that long day."
"He offered to arrange for a sitter for our son, but I still wasn't happy, because the competition was early and not close to our house. Getting her up and ready is already a pain. To add driving our son to a sitter is just making the morning so much more stressful."
But the husband's plans became more and more questionable.
"We then found out she's a later performance, so he decided to go. He said he was going with his brother as his friend couldn't go."
"The Wednesday night before he left, he specifically said he was nervous about the Verizon outages because he 'and his brother' both have Verizon, and they're hoping they don't lose access to GPS."
"Thursday morning, he texted me that he made it to the campsite safely."
"Then I didn't hear from him again. Friday at noon, I reached out to make sure he was alive (he usually texts me life checks daily when camping), but I got no response."
"By 6:00 PM, I was nervous and texted my sister-in-law to see if my brother-in-law was able to contact her. That's when she replied, 'Ma'am, what are you talking about? My husband is on the couch next to me.'"
The OP knew for certain that her husband was lying about something.
"I. Saw. Red. In my mind, my husband is still camping but used his brother as a manipulative tool because he assumed I wouldn't want to ruin his good time."
"We have two young kids who need a lot of attention. I work full-time and manage basically everything for the kids. He works a swing shift as an ER medic, so he is gone for 14 hours per day on the days that he's working."
"I'm constantly juggling everything alone, so it does suck when he finally has time off and actively chooses to spend it so detached and not being helpful in any way."
"On Saturday, he finally texted that he had service again and was coming home. I ignored his text. He called, but I was driving with our daughter in the car, so a call wasn't appropriate."
"When I could, I texted him, calling him out on his lie. He doubled down and said he didn't lie. He said it was a change in plans, because by the time he knew our daughter's start time was late enough that he could go, it was too late to invite his brother."
The OP's husband was actively dodging her.
"It's now Monday. He's been living out of our basement since he got home, and he rushed off to work early this morning, so he has not tried to talk to me at all."
"Instead, he is taking the stand that he's mad at me for being mad."
"In my opinion, he lied to me. He manipulated me. Instead of apologizing when he was caught, he doubled down and is using my anger against me."
"The fact is, I no longer can trust him and contacted a divorce attorney."
"So… AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Some immediately called the husband out for his "Verizon" comment.
"He built in the Verizon comment so he could turn his phone off. He was not alone. Sorry." - MargotSoda
"The Verizon thing up front was so sus, it's insane." - Ok_Nothing_9733
"The Verizon plug-in felt like something my three-year-old would do. 'Just so you know, Dad, I didn't eat any cookies from the bag in the pantry!'" - BoopsBoopsOfDaBucket
"I used to have AT&T and would go visit my roommate and legitimately not have service for an entire weekend. It was Verizon that had the broad rural coverage!" - harst035
"It's funny because I used to go camping/hiking in the mountains, and I had amazing service with Verizon. This man is trash." - inky_fox
"The Verizon was a cover story, so when his phone 'didn't work,' there was an explanation!" - heath0816
Others cringed at the story and were certain that the husband had been cheating.
"After being caught, OP's husband said, 'It was too late to even invite my brother.' He is trying to cover the base that his brother didn't know about the trip."
"Which makes no sense since he mentioned his brother, another person, and him all planned this two weeks ago."
"She needs to ask SIL if this was even mentioned. If it wasn't, then he definitely was never going to invite him." - Vegetable_Lab2438
"Lots of people camp alone. It's why solo tents exist. But their spouses know that it is a hobby of theirs and they don't lie about it."
"The best case scenario, he wanted to skirt his responsibilities as a dad and husband for the weekend. So he made up a lie to get away, which is selfish and something to talk to a therapist about."
"The worst case, he wasn't alone. And he wasn't camping." - Fearless_Feeling873
"He set up the Verizon stuff so he could be left alone. He was cheating."
"I was engaged once when I was 25 years old. I had no problem with my fiancé going to a strip club at the time, but I wanted the truth. He swore to me they weren't going to a strip club."
"I found out a month later that they went to a strip club, and he never told me. I broke off the entire engagement and kicked him out."
"Even if your husband didn't cheat, just like even if my fiancé at the time didn't cheat, it doesn't matter. They owe you the truth. I would divorce him too if I were you." - lovingcats1239
"This was premeditated cheating. Some people fall into a trap and make a bad move. Others carefully plan out how they're going to do it."
"Seems like OP is making the right choice." - 2Silly4Dilly
"The OP wrote, 'In my opinion, he lied to me.'"
"Oh no, that's not an 'opinion'; that's a fact. He lied to you. Then spent days away 'camping,' ignoring you the whole time; with whom was he supposedly camping, exactly?"
"The OP wrote, 'The fact is, I no longer can trust him and contacted an attorney.'"
"That was 100% the right call. You do not have the full story. And you probably never will; welcome to 'trickle truth.'"
"But since he's doubling down, all you can do is assume the absolute worst. The gaslighting practically proves that he's cheating."
"NOR." - 4hhsumm
"He kept lying up to the night before he left, as proven by what the OP wrote here:"
"'Wednesday night before he left, he specifically said he was nervous with the Verizon outages because he 'and his brother' both gave Verizon, and they're hoping they don't lose access to GPS."
"He also said he didn't even ASK his brother, according to the OP here:"
"'By the time he knew our daughter's start time was late enough that he could go, it was too late to invite his brother.'"
"This was a multi-step, multi-day cover-up. There is no way he was there alone, and no way he was with someone OP would be okay with."
"You're doing the right thing, OP. Even if he just wanted to decompress, he should have told you the truth about it. Lies will lead to... anything else that you don't want in a marriage." - StrangledInMoonlight
The OP later shared an update she wasn't sure the subReddit would be happy with.
"I know this isn't the update any of you want, but it's the update you get."
"He was truly camping alone in the woods. He truly had no service. He did mention it prior specifically because we both were in SOS mode all day on Tuesday, the Tuesday before he left, because of the Verizon nationwide outage."
"For everyone who thinks I'm a naive moron, that's okay."
"For everyone who thinks he just needed a break from the pressures of a high-stakes job and two young kids, let me tell you that this man has felt ZERO stress from having two young kids."
"I do their homework with them. I do the bedtime routine. I register them for everything, I take them to all practices/performances, I coach when it's a sport I'm familiar with, I volunteer at their school, and at every event I can before they're old enough that my face there will be more humiliating than helpful."
"I mow the lawn. I shovel the snow. When the sink leaked, I fixed it. Like, there isn't a honey-do list here that I am not giving credit for."
"I told him I contacted an attorney. He had no reply."
"The next day, he asked if we could talk. He admitted that he's been a real s**tty partner and dad for the past two years. He cited very specific examples of him being a s**tty dad, like not knowing our son's teachers name, never seeing a single performance from our daughter in cheer or dance, not doing anything around the house, constantly being mad at me for having emotions, punishing me for anything that he viewed as an 'indiscretion' by ignoring me for a week until he thought enough time passed when he would resurface pretending everything was fine..."
"But there was not one apology. Not one thank you for taking such good care of my family while I wasn't there mentally."
"No ask for therapy, which I was actually grateful for, since the last time he requested therapy, he then attended every session stone-faced and gave me no response, even after I begged for any acknowledgment of anything I said."
"Anyway, wish me luck on the rest of my life. I will never be with a man ever again. Zero out of five stars. Do not recommend."
But as it turned out, it was almost exactly what the subReddit was hoping for.
"Honestly? Dumping the dead weight in your life sounds exactly like the update I was hoping for. You are absolutely trading up when you trade yourself alone for the loser husband!" - Swiss_Miss_77
"When you decide you're better off without him, you start actually looking forward to not having him around anymore, and life gets significantly better."
"I hope everything will improve for you and your kids after their deadbeat dad is out of the picture." - Original_Way7114
"Yikes. So no apology and no indication that he is even going to try to do right by you and the family?"
"Even if he's not cheating, I don't think you should stay married to him." - Threadheads
"Married women who allow their husbands to do absolutely nothing around the house, or help with their children, and then complain about being treated like an afterthought... What did you think was going to happen?"
"Get some self-respect and dignity. Men leave marriages for less, but it's always you women that stay for more mistreatment."
"OP, I'm glad you learned this and wish you the greatest in the future, even if it's being single and knowing that you've got your own back." - lookupitsblue
"This IS the update I was hoping for. I know so many married single moms who dropped the 'married' part and just feel this sense of peace and purpose."
"I don't know why some men are like that, but he's not your problem anymore. Wishing you the best in your peaceful single life." - overZealousAzalea
The subReddit clearly felt for this woman who fell for her husband needing a weekend away, but they were grateful to know that she was taking the next step to take care of her children and herself in her husband's absence.
It seemed far more likely that her husband also cheated, but even if she didn't want to consider that part of the story, him lying to her was enough for her to hold up her boundaries and treat herself the way she deserved for her husband to treat her.















Woman Breaks Up With Boyfriend Who Worried People Would Think She Was Trans For Using Stand-To-Pee Device
Content Warning: Transphobia, Transphobic Comments
There are countless different reasons that a relationship might end, and a red flag could arise at any time. Some of these might have been learned in childhood and could improve over time.
Transphobia is absolutely a red flag that should be acted on immediately; however, with no option to fly again, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor funnelfuss was in the car with her boyfriend when they got stuck in a traffic jam.
She really needed to use the restroom, so since she had a device with her to make the process easier, she decided she'd step out of the car.
But when her boyfriend panicked and thought people might mistake her for a man, the Original Poster (OP) realized that her boyfriend was not who she thought he was.
She asked the sub:
The OP had to use the restroom while stuck in a traffic jam.
"My (26 Female) boyfriend (25 Male) and I got stuck in an insane traffic jam. My boyfriend was driving."
"We were at a standstill. Found out later on, they had closed the highway."
"I had to pee really bad, like bad bad bad. I saw that a couple guys had run to the side of the road to pee, and I decided to do the same."
"It was super open, with a few bushes by the side of the road, really not much cover."
The OP's boyfriend became uncomfortable when he realized she had a pee-to-stand device.
"I have a stand-to-pee device in my car, but when I grabbed it, my boyfriend got all weird."
"He said people would see me pee standing up and think I was Trans."
"I said no one would think that, plenty of women have pee funnels, and that also I didn't care. I have no beef with Trans people!"
"He said I should squat, just to put his mind at ease."
"I said I didn't want to get my butt and c**ch out on the highway in front of everyone, or get pee on my shoes, and I just wanted to be quick and clean."
"He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans and that I should squat, like GIRLS do."
The OP decided she was over it.
"I was dying by this point. I couldn't hold it anymore, and I really didn't want to show the world my butt, so I ran to the side of the road and slipped the device into my jeans and just peed standing up with my back to traffic."
"No one could see anything; it just slides through the zipper. But I guess maybe if someone was looking, they would be confused? But also, who's LOOKING?!"
"When I got back to the car, my boyfriend wouldn't talk to me. He says I disrespected his feelings. But it was 100% an emergency, and I don't get what his problem was."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that there was nothing wrong with using the restroom how she wanted.
"OP, don't think for one more second about this. Your boyfriend is being ridiculous."
"As if you will ever see any of those people again! Plus, holding it in for too long can cause a whole host of issues."
"It's actually genius that you have something like that in your car, just in case. I'm going to order one too now! NTA." - m_alice88
"'Honey, please show all these strangers your c**ch and a** so they know I'm not gay, mmmm'kay?'"
"A weak man, a very weak man." - lefteyedcrow
"You must have a she-wee! Those are so great for women."
"Tell your boyfriend to get over himself. You had to pee. He does not understand that squatting can suck and leave you exposed."
"If he is that upset you did this, rethink this relationship. I would find it hysterical."
"NTA." - Oktodayithink
"NTA, OP. You just needed a makeshift restroom."
"Your boyfriend apparently thought that it was normal for people to stare at strangers who are trying to pee to evaluate who they are, who they're with, and what the status of their relationship is."
"You know, to pass the time while in gridlock traffic." - Pixichixi
"You did nothing wrong, OP! When you have to go, you have to go. It's healthier to go."
"And don't apologize! We're so wired to reduce conflict, even to the point of downplaying how we feel to keep the peace or end the silence. Don't do it."
"It's a him issue. He thinks his feelings on this are more important than your discomfort about showing your naked body on the side of the road. If he can't figure that out for himself and apologize, it would be a dealbreaker for me." - lelawes
Others agreed and pointed out that the ex-boyfriend was very transphobic.
"NTA. Your boyfriend is clearly transphobic. That is 100% on him. And who cares if people think you are Trans?"
"'He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans.' And you don't want people to think you're dating someone bigoted and hateful." - GreekAmericanDom
"He may not consider himself transphobic ('I don't hate Trans people! I just don't want to be associated with them or have anyone think I'm with a Trans person!'), but he absolutely is, probably with a healthy side helping of homophobia."
"Why would he care, unless a) Trans women are not women in his eyes, or b) it somehow would be emasculating or embarrassing to his ego to be with a Trans woman."
"Also, you're in a traffic jam. Who the f**k is even watching close enough to care, and who of those people matters enough to give two s**ts about what they think."
"Not to mention, he's being weirdly controlling about your behaviors and how they reflect on him in a scenario where arguably he's never going to interact with a single person he's worrying about." - maladicta228
"This post reminds me of the time I got dressed to go to a function. It was a casual gathering. My kid (this was solidly on their father, my ex, as he's gotten insanely bigoted as he's aged) said, 'Mom, you're dressed like a Lesbian.'"
"Me: 'Lesbians have great fashion sense, I'd love to be mistaken for one.'"
"They paused for a second and realized that I truly wasn't dressing for men (despite it being my husband's work function), and that being seen as a lesbian was a good thing. I'm so glad I raised them to think for themselves, and realize that one can be wrong, admit it, and work on being a better person every day. They've never said anything like that since." - baconbitsy
"He's so insecure (and transphobic) that he cares more about what some strangers in a traffic jam might wrongly assume about you (and thereby him) than YOUR needs, comfort, and health."
"He expected you to prioritize his insecurities (feelings) above that and then punished you when you prioritized your health."
"You sure you want to be with someone like that?? NTA." - molotovmerkin
"Your boyfriend is so transphobic that he wants you to expose your genitalia on the side of the road to prove that you're not a Trans woman because he can't stand the idea of a total stranger, in a neighboring car, whom he will never speak to or see ever again, thinking he MIGHT be SHARING A CAR (because the strangers in other cars have no idea that you're dating) with a Trans woman."
"You're NTA, but get a better boyfriend." - HighCsummer
"Literally, you have to be super transphobic to think people in traffic are gonna judge you if your girlfriend is standing to pee. Like come onnnnnn, this is some insane insecurity." - Responsible-Pickle-2
Some pointed out that not only was the ex-boyfriend transphobic, but also controlling.
"This won't be the last time he expects OP to sacrifice things or make her life worse so that she can conform to his ideal of feminine stereotypes and keep up appearances for his fragile masculine ego."
"And that he gave her the silent treatment for not obliging his transphobia and misogyny disguised as 'feelings' is also problematic." - blancamystiere
"He's insecure and transphobic. He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort."
"NTA, and honestly, you can do better than this specimen." - PetersMapProject
"NTA. Your boyfriend would have preferred for everyone to see your a** and vagina than have a random stranger think his girlfriend is Trans. He would rather you expose yourself for his personal gain."
"Get a better boyfriend." - Amaze-balls-trippen
"The transphobia? The insecurity? And the silent treatment when he doesn't get his way?"
"So many red flags!" - CarolynDesign
"He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort and safety."
"He would rather you invite unwanted attention and risk by exposing your private parts to the world than have people think he (who most of the onlookers couldn't even see) might be dating a Trans person."
"NTA. OP, he's too insecure, self-centered, and immature to be a good partner to you, given that he's willing to compromise your safety to avoid a single twinge of discomfort. Dump him." - Hari_om_tat_sat
After receiving feedback, the OP was reassured and shared some positive updates.
"UPDATE: Thank you, everyone, for helping me feel sane again!"
"I got quite a few questions about which device I use, and honestly, it's about what fits you best. There are a ton of options. It's what fits you. Check out pStyle, Freshette, and EllaPee."
"I tried peeing standing up in a toilet, and it worked fine. I think my aim was pretty good, but then I saw little droplets on the floor. No thanks, don't need that. Also, it's loud? Awkward."
"But for the outside, it's pretty fun! I drive a lot, that's why it was in my car. Lifesaver."
"Also, I guess in this case it brought out an ugly side of my (ex) boyfriend and clarified some stuff for me. A winner all around."
"And to all the commenters asking, YES, he is an ex-boyfriend now."
"And yes, there were other red flags."
"Ditched the man, kept the pee funnel. Gonna laugh at him every time I pee standing up."
There's no way to imagine just how awkward the rest of the car ride was after using the restroom and returning to the now-silent and very entitled boyfriend, still stuck in a traffic jam.
But fortunately for the OP, she learned something vital about her relationship during a moment that should have been a total non-issue.
By being concerned about this and expecting the OP to prioritize her ex's pride over her comfort, safety, and cleanliness, her ex told her everything she needed to know.