A 24-year-old woman wasn't sure what to do after children from her husband's family made ignorant comments to her. After arguing with her 32-year-old husband, she decided to turn to the Relationship Advice subReddit for help.
Redditor chokecherryii stated:
"Husband's family is saying racially insensitive things about me to their kids."
She explained:
"As a bit of background, I am Native American (Cree) and my husband's family are all Russian immigrants. He's been here for about fifteen years, and we have been married for over 3 years now."
"This past weekend we had a baptism and my husband is the godfather to his uncle's new baby. We had a little party for it at our house, and his uncle's family as well as his extended family was there."
"During the party, two of his uncle's sons (5 & 7) kept asking me what my race was. I told them I was Cree and to call me Native American."
"They in turn called me an Indian over and over while finally asking me if I was a savage with a horse."
"I have never heard this from any child before, especially children who have English as a second language. I'm honestly hurt and shocked, debating on never seeing his family again because children don't just say things that haven't been repeated to them."
"My husband and I have been arguing all week because I said his family is racist and probably call me an Indian/savage behind my back. He thinks I am insulting his family, which isn't entirely true."
"Do I forgive them for being ignorant or cut all ties with them immediately?"
"I want to give them the benefit of the doubt that the only exposure to Native people they have is through movies with like cowboys and horses, but I'm very hurt."
His family has never entirely accepted me even if they are nice to my face because I am not Russian or White. I love him and I don't want to keep his family from him but I just can't be a part of it if they think I'm a savage."
Redditors had plenty of advice to offer.
"He needs to stand up for you and talk to his family about their kid's rude, racist behavior. I don't buy the excuse that these kids just magically picked up this language outta nowhere - but even if they didn't learn it from their parents, it's still something that your husband should address with his family, because you shouldn't have to deal with racial abuse every time you visit his family."
"Your husband needs to approach his family and tell them AT MINIMUM that the kid's behavior needs to stop. If they aren't willing to comply, then I don't see why you should have to subject yourself to their racist nonsense." ~ Throwaway321322323
The OP responded and revealed she had a son to consider.
"I agree—It came from somewhere, and even if they didn't say it he should correct them because I don't want my son growing up thinking that I'm okay with his family using that language to describe us."
"It's insulting and degrading... if he doesn't agree then I just won't be a part of family things anymore."
The Redditor agreed.
"I think that's a fair boundary! If your husband doesn't like it, frankly, he can go kick rocks. If he wants to prioritize his family over you and your son...then he's an a**." ~ Throwaway321322323
"It's not your job to teach people about racism. However, if you want to try and enlighten these folks, that would be your choice."
"Are you certain that these children are repeating things they heard from family members vs. other influences? (They certainly heard it somewhere)."
"Your husband should not be OK with his family minimizing you, insulting you, etc. He chose to marry you and if he did that knowing that his family would hate you, I question his choices, I question why he never forewarned you about it, and I question why he tolerates it." ~ aenflex
The OP responded again to say her husband has defended her in the past.
"I'm wondering the same things. Part of me wants to take the high road and send them some children's books about native cultures but I don't know if that will change anything."
"I'm not certain they heard it from family, it might have been from TV or a movie but from what his family has said about me when we were dating I would not be surprised if they call me that."
"He has defended me before multiple times (ex. I refuse to let my MIL cut my son's long hair) but this time he just shut me out and refused to listen to me."
A Redditor agreed that books for the kids was a good option.
"I think sending them some books is a great idea. At the end of the day it's not the children's fault."
"And if you manage to reach them and show them who you are, you will in fact make a difference for the next generation :)" ~ iAmTheRealDeeDee
One Redditor pointed out that in Europe the words Indian, Red Indian and Savage are terms used in books, on TV and in movies for the people indigenous to the Americas.
"To be honest if they're from Eastern Europe or grew up among Eastern Europeans it's fairly possible they have mostly been exposed to the vastly outdated and problematic 'savage with a horse' image of an 'Indian."
"The word 'Indian' is still perceived as quite normal in my language which is close to Russian. There are a lot of old and famous adventure stories and films which portray Native Americans in the Wild West type of way, and for children or their uneducated parents these can still be the first thing they think of when hearing about your race, sadly."
"It definitely is racist, even if the context might be a little different. When it comes to the children, I'd say a little education could go a long way, but for the parents I'm not sure, it really depends and might not be worth the struggle." ~ Toby_Shandy
"I second the language thing. Kids call you Indian and probably said the horse thing because that's what their parents said to them to explain what it means. Might have also seen it in a cartoon too."
"I could see it happening with my family that's also slavic and my best advice is to talk to them and explain why it hurt your feelings because they probably don't get it at all. It doesn't need to be a 3 hour therapy session, if they mean well they'll get it real fast."
"I know everyone is saying 'It's not your job to educate them about racism' but that's a bullshit stance to take here in my opinion because it's a cultural thing and it's also children who in their native tongue say Indian instead of Native American." ~ PlesuciKaktus
On Redditor gave a response that the OP called really helpful.
"So you're right to be upset and take this incident seriously. But I think the conversation with your husband has gotten out of hand."
"It's not about what those kids said and how it made you feel anymore. It's about whether his family is irredeemably racist and whether you are going to allow them to be a part of your life and for your husband, what that means for him."
"And he probably feels pretty powerless because whether his family has racist views is not really anything he can do something about."
"De-escalate."
"Make it about what the kids actually said and did at the baptism. Ask your husband to refocus on that."
"I would tell your husband that part of what you need is for him to have your back, particularly where you are vulnerable, and because you are Native American this is particularly important to you."
"Your husband CAN do something about this: he can tell his uncle about what his sons said to you at the party and how badly it upset you and how he thinks they need to be talked to. He can suggest ways in which that could happen, and ways in which you can be involved, but I wouldn't be too married to any particular way of resolving the situation."
"These are young kids and it's really the parents' business how they handle it."
"The response of your husband's family to your husband will tell you a lot about who they are as people and where this kind of thing came from. And it's really the adults whose racial behavior is important here. The kids can be taught better." ~ PM_T*TS_OR_DONT
The OP returned with an update.
"My husband just called to apologize for our fights this week and told me he didn't want to lose me over this. He offered to speak to his uncle and have us sit down together to talk about it tonight over dinner."
"Hopefully this goes well. Wish me luck that we can make this a teaching moment and I don't have to cut them off for good."
The OP later deleted their post without further updates.















Humiliated Redditor Ditches Friend's Birthday After She Publicly Mocks Them In Front Of Everyone
Fake people tend to show their true colors during pivotal moments, like weddings and major celebrations.
But when they want an audience to hurt someone else, it takes total sense that they would be called out in front of everyone, as agreed by members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit.
Redditor HollyyGinger went to their close friend's birthday party, expecting to have a good time and celebrate their loved one's special day.
But when their close friend made several mocking comments about them, and the party laughed along with them, the Original Poster (OP) took that as an indication of the state of their friendship and left the birthday party early.
They asked the sub:
The OP was excited to celebrate their close friend's birthday.
"One of my close friends had a birthday dinner last weekend, and I was genuinely excited to go."
"I helped her organize a few things beforehand, bought her a gift, and even rearranged some plans because I wanted to be there for her."
But the birthday dinner did not go at all how the OP expected.
"During dinner, though, she started making little jokes about me in front of everyone."
"At first, I laughed along because I didn't want to make things awkward on her birthday."
"But she kept going. She joked about dating life, brought up an embarrassing story I had told her privately, and made another comment about how I'm ''way too sensitive' sometimes."
"People were laughing, and I tried to act like it didn't bother me, but honestly, I felt pretty humiliated."
The OP tried to ask their friend to change the direction of the rest of the party.
"I quietly asked her when we were alone if she could stop making me the joke of the evening."
"She rolled her eyes and said I was taking everything too seriously and that everyone knew she was joking."
"I went back to the table for a while because I really didn't want to ruin her birthday."
"But then she made another joke about me, so I decided I'd had enough. I congratulated her again, said goodbye to everyone, and went home without making a scene."
The OP's friend tried to blame them for how the evening turned out.
"The next morning, she texted me, saying she was hurt that I left early and that several people noticed."
"She said that I made her feel like she had done something horrible when she was 'just having fun.' But her having fun was more of a public embarrassment to me."
"Now I feel guilty, because it was her birthday, and maybe I could have just ignored it for another hour or two."
"I wasn't trying to punish her or make the night about me. I just didn't want to sit there smiling while someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I had specifically asked her to stop."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she didn't have to stay at a party where she didn't feel welcome.
"She was having fun. You were not having fun."
"You’re not overreacting. You told her it was hurting you, and she kept doing it because hurting you was entertaining for her. She is not a good friend." - Dunquinn-
"I remember when I was really little, a bunch of adults were laughing at me as I cried."
"I cried to my mom, 'Stop laughing at me,' to which she replied, 'We aren’t laughing at you; we're laughing with you,' while giggling."
"My response was something I stand by to this day: 'Then why am I the only one crying?!'"
"It’s only funny if the person who’s being teased is laughing too. You weren’t laughing. It wasn’t funny; it was cruel. NOR." - XSmartypants
"She’s a bully. It wasn’t 'more like 'it was publicly embarrassing. It WAS publicly embarrassing."
"Then she tells you that SHE is embarrassed because YOU left early. That's bulls**t."
"NOR. Drop her." - WTH_JFG
"NOR. They make jokes about someone's privacy to humiliate that person. Anyone who would use info that was shared in confidence to get a laugh is an abuser. You don't do that, especially to a close friend, without the intent to hurt that person." - BungenessKrabb
"Would it have been fun if you did the same? Start telling her darkest secrets?"
"She made you into a punchline for other people’s entertainment."
"You told her to stop, and she didn’t; now she’s the victim?"
"NOR."
"But also, some people need to feel it to believe it. I hope you go to the next gathering with a few stories of your own and don’t let her rewrite the narrative." - beached_not_broken
"I’ve had it happen by my 'best friend' at the time, only it was in a professional setting event. Very personal details only she knew, all spilled for her amusement, embarrassing me in front of colleagues."
"NOR, OP. As you did, I left the gathering earlier than expected. My 'friend' called the next day asking why I left so early. I told her what she had said and done and how humiliated I felt."
"Her 'apology' was that flippant version that shows no remorse, like, 'Well, I’m sorry you feel that way.'"
"Over the subsequent years, she managed to alienate and burn bridges with most of those same people we were gathered with."
"I’m sorry this happened to you, OP. Anyone who thinks you were 'too sensitive' has no empathy and 'friends' like that don’t deserve your time." - Hungry_Tank9182
"NOR. She was being a jerk to you, and she was expecting you to just take it and not say anything or defend yourself."
"Because they think it's sooo funny to mock others, but I bet if the roles were reversed, she would be offended and upset."
"Honestly, you deserve better friends. I'm sorry you had to deal with this."
"I would've left and blocked her." - Cryslove
Others urged the OP to stop thinking about the event and let that friendship go.
"That was the point of her fun! Humiliating you with an audience!"
"Sharing something deeply personal, told in confidence? Immediate dealbreaker."
"She is not (and likely never was) your friend. Friends do not treat friends with such disrespect. Block her, and go no contact. She brings nothing good to your life, and she’s not worthy of your energy and time."
"NOR." - MizPeachyKeen
"It’s called bullying. She is not your friend. Friends don’t humiliate their true friends, or tell them 'they are too sensitive.'"
"That is what bullies do. She keeps you around to put you down and make herself look or feel better."
"Her actions, attitude, and behavior are those of an immature high schooler. She could actually be jealous of you and not want one or all of the following: you to succeed, have more friends, feel better about yourself, look better, etc."
"Please slowly distance yourself, find new hobbies and activities with more mature, well-rounded, healthy people." - Freeling_Fab_U_lous
"How DARE you spoil her fun; didn't you know that part of your gift was letting her make you the butt of her jokes? (sarcastic comment)"
"What an awful person. No one should need to put others down to raise themselves up. She doesn't deserve the title of friend, to be honest. You showed much more grace than I would have managed." - tphatmcgee
"She was using you as her punching bag to make the others attending laugh. Probably thinking you’d just take it. That’s not a good friend. NOR." - Additional-Start9455
"'Someone I trusted kept embarrassing me after I asked them to stop.' NOR."
"First, you shouldn't have had to ask her to stop because a friend wouldn't have started in the first place. One of her 'jokes' was about you being sensitive, so she knew you didn't like it and did it anyway."
"Second, you asked her privately to stop, because you didn't want to embarrass her. Think about that. You didn't want to embarrass her. But she couldn't show you the same consideration, even after being asked to stop."
"That's not how I treat my friends, and I suspect that's not how you treat your friends, either." - calminthedark
"I would have answered her text that she's a s**tty friend and to f**k off. You have class."
"I probably would have made a comment at dinner that I asked her to stop with the insults."
"NOR. You did everything right." - Particular-King218
The subReddit was disappointed on the OP's behalf that a friendship they were so committed to, they were excited to celebrate their friend's birthday and even helped plan the event, came apart at their expense, and on very public terms.
If the friend didn't want to be "embarrassed," maybe she should have thought about how she was embarrassing others first.