The only thing that can be more frustrating than dealing with difficult neighbors, is dealing with difficult neighbor's renovations.
For even though all the work is being done on their house, all the noise and debris which comes with construction will still have a way of affecting your own property and daily routine.
Things only become more complicated when where property officially divides becomes an issue.
Redditor ThunderDeserve9096 and their husband recently faced such an issue, when their neighbor told them that in order for their current renovation to continue, the original poster (OP) would also need to make a change on their own property.
Not only that, but the OP's neighbors expected them to foot the bill for this work, something the OP and their husband refused to do.
But wondering if they handled the situation appropriately, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where they asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for not paying to remove well on my property so neighbor can replace septic tank?"
The OP explained how they initially seemed to have a good relationship with their neighbors, and tended to admire all the work they did on their property, even if it sometimes caused a nuisance regarding their own property.
"My husband and I would like to get another point of view regarding an issue we are having with our next door neighbor."
'Little background...we are cordial but not friends."
'We bought our house 8 years ago, they maybe 14."
"They own a construction landscaping company and have trucks/workers coming on our residential street daily, I assume to pick up work orders."
"Over the years they have done extensive landscaping to their back yard, using our side yard to get there because they built a huge deck so close to property line."
'Absolutely gorgeous landscaping!"
"The last 2 years they started to work on adjacent side yard and we noticed they planted small palms in front of our sprinklers.'
"Long story short, they thought they had approximately 6 to 8 more feet than they had."
"This came to light when they moved our sprinklers over when we said something about them planting in front of them!"
However, when their neighbor's told the OP and their husband that their most recent renovation would require them to make some contributions of their own, they were less than eager to oblige.
"Neighbor approached husband a few weeks ago that they needed a new septic tank and our 'un-permitted' well was within 50 feet and would need to be moved."
"Hubby says we will move it if you pay for it."
"She says, well it may be an issue since you don't have a permit."
"We make a few calls, our realtor makes a few calls for us to septic co. owner, it's a small town, and she tells us they can apply for a variance, it had to have been permitted etc etc."
"We aren't worried."
"Neighbor knocks on door and hubby and I speak to her."
"She asks if there's any way we can work with her and her husband because yes, they can apply for a variance but it costs $1800 and there is no guarantee that county will approve it."
"She asks if we can just move our well."
"Hubby says we will if you pay for it."
"She says she shouldn't have to since we don't have a permit."
"This is where I may have been an a**hole."
'I did raise my voice and told her we weren't paying for anything, you are trying to make your problem our problem."
"She said it was our problem because the county now knows we don't have a permit so they may make us move it."
"We said we had talked to some people and we weren't worried."
"And I again said, your problem, not ours, stop trying to make it our problem."
"She said we may bring legal action."
"We said do what you have to do and slammed door."
"We found our copy of the permit that former owners left us btw."
"Her passive aggressive threat of the permit pissed me off and I did raise my voice to her."
"So am I the a**hole for raising my voice to Neighbor?"-
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
The Reddit community wholeheartedly agreed that the OP and her husband were not the a**holes for refusing to move their well, let alone pay for it.
Everyone agreed that not only was the OP's well permitted, but since it was the neighbors who started the construction, they should pay for all of it, with a few wondering if they had all their permits in order.
"NTA."
"You should find out if they got permits for their renovations, cause it sounds like their deck is a little close."- DarthGayAgenda
"NTA."
"Also don't move the well even if they pay for it without considering how it could impact your home/property/water quality."- SubieThrow
"NTA."
"You have a permitted well."
"She can make whatever threats she wants."
"At some point she can either put up the legal action or shut up."
"Tell her she had threatened legal action so you will not talk to her through anyone but lawyers."
"And be sure to get one."- WineOrDeath
"They built a deck so close to what they thought the property line was that they had to use your yard to access it, and they weren't even right about what that property line was?"
"I wonder what the local setback requirement is for that edge of their property."
"And you do have a permit for that well, so that's hilarious."
"Let her waste her time."
"Moving your sprinklers was ridiculous."
"You should have gone nuclear on these AHs years ago."
"Raising your voice was more than justified."
"NTA."- PinkNGreenFluoride
"NTA."
"I think they should consider themselves to be fortunate that you allowed them to walk through your land in order to get to theirs."
"That was very neighborly of you."
"The palm tree issue was pretty crappy of them."
"As a general rule, I think we all know not to touch things that don't belong to us."
"They should have asked you before they did it and if you said no, respected that answer."
"The well?"
"Absolutely not."
"That is a lot of money to expect you to shell out so that they can get a new septic tank."
"I doubt that's the only work around."
"If anything, they could move that deck."
"From the outside looking in, it does seem like she is trying to make her problem your problem."
"I would have snapped sooner."- Educational-Ad4352
"NTA."
"Take a jug of water in and get the sample tested from your well."
"There's a place near me that does a simple breakdown for $35."
"This will help establish your water quality and mineral levels, they fluctuate with season etc."
"But if they contaminate you have a pre-established record."- ObjectiveLocksmith4
"NTA."
"Now to protect yourself:"
"Get a survey done, and validate they are not encroaching."
"Put them on notice to not use your property for access to their property."
"They get to live with the consequences of their attempt at deceit regarding the well permit you do have."- SublimeMudTime
"NTA."
"You don't owe her anything, if anything sounds like she already owes you."
"If she was a financially struggling, generous, polite neighbor I would have some sympathy."
"But the new decking, dodgy sprinkler moving, and trying to strong arm you tells me she is none of those."
"Hold your ground!"- coolpall33
"NTA."
"After her threats of legal action, I wouldn't move it now regardless of who pays."
"I'd take a page from Nancy Reagan's book and Just Say No."
"But I'm spiteful like that."- empiricalprocesses
"NTA Sounds like it time to put up a fence on the property line."
"Keep them from crossing any more boundaries."- gastropodia42
"NTA."
"Your neighbors are trying to intimidate you so they can have their way."
"It sounds like they were trying to gaslight you and hoped you didn't research it."
"If they try to sue you you should countersue and take their house lol."- joshm0548
"NTA."
"Why does she think there wasn't a permit?"
"Or was she just using that to try and strong arm y'all?"- Chelular07
"Hmm."
"What were the chances neighbor was going to want to drive the heavy equipment through your yard to dig for the new septic tank?"
"NTA."- YeeHawMiMaw
"NTA."
"And you should Sue them for moving your sprinklers."
"Who the hell does something like that?!"- RainierCherree
One can sympathize with the OP's neighbor, in that construction and renovation is a stressful process, which tends to only get more and more expensive with each passing day.
But it's hard to imagine why she felt that the OP and their husband should have to pay for something which is part of her construction job.
One only hopes this can all be settled without legal action being taken, or without any further animosity.















Woman Breaks Up With Boyfriend Who Worried People Would Think She Was Trans For Using Stand-To-Pee Device
Content Warning: Transphobia, Transphobic Comments
There are countless different reasons that a relationship might end, and a red flag could arise at any time. Some of these might have been learned in childhood and could improve over time.
Transphobia is absolutely a red flag that should be acted on immediately; however, with no option to fly again, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor funnelfuss was in the car with her boyfriend when they got stuck in a traffic jam.
She really needed to use the restroom, so since she had a device with her to make the process easier, she decided she'd step out of the car.
But when her boyfriend panicked and thought people might mistake her for a man, the Original Poster (OP) realized that her boyfriend was not who she thought he was.
She asked the sub:
The OP had to use the restroom while stuck in a traffic jam.
"My (26 Female) boyfriend (25 Male) and I got stuck in an insane traffic jam. My boyfriend was driving."
"We were at a standstill. Found out later on, they had closed the highway."
"I had to pee really bad, like bad bad bad. I saw that a couple guys had run to the side of the road to pee, and I decided to do the same."
"It was super open, with a few bushes by the side of the road, really not much cover."
The OP's boyfriend became uncomfortable when he realized she had a pee-to-stand device.
"I have a stand-to-pee device in my car, but when I grabbed it, my boyfriend got all weird."
"He said people would see me pee standing up and think I was Trans."
"I said no one would think that, plenty of women have pee funnels, and that also I didn't care. I have no beef with Trans people!"
"He said I should squat, just to put his mind at ease."
"I said I didn't want to get my butt and c**ch out on the highway in front of everyone, or get pee on my shoes, and I just wanted to be quick and clean."
"He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans and that I should squat, like GIRLS do."
The OP decided she was over it.
"I was dying by this point. I couldn't hold it anymore, and I really didn't want to show the world my butt, so I ran to the side of the road and slipped the device into my jeans and just peed standing up with my back to traffic."
"No one could see anything; it just slides through the zipper. But I guess maybe if someone was looking, they would be confused? But also, who's LOOKING?!"
"When I got back to the car, my boyfriend wouldn't talk to me. He says I disrespected his feelings. But it was 100% an emergency, and I don't get what his problem was."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that there was nothing wrong with using the restroom how she wanted.
"OP, don't think for one more second about this. Your boyfriend is being ridiculous."
"As if you will ever see any of those people again! Plus, holding it in for too long can cause a whole host of issues."
"It's actually genius that you have something like that in your car, just in case. I'm going to order one too now! NTA." - m_alice88
"'Honey, please show all these strangers your c**ch and a** so they know I'm not gay, mmmm'kay?'"
"A weak man, a very weak man." - lefteyedcrow
"You must have a she-wee! Those are so great for women."
"Tell your boyfriend to get over himself. You had to pee. He does not understand that squatting can suck and leave you exposed."
"If he is that upset you did this, rethink this relationship. I would find it hysterical."
"NTA." - Oktodayithink
"NTA, OP. You just needed a makeshift restroom."
"Your boyfriend apparently thought that it was normal for people to stare at strangers who are trying to pee to evaluate who they are, who they're with, and what the status of their relationship is."
"You know, to pass the time while in gridlock traffic." - Pixichixi
"You did nothing wrong, OP! When you have to go, you have to go. It's healthier to go."
"And don't apologize! We're so wired to reduce conflict, even to the point of downplaying how we feel to keep the peace or end the silence. Don't do it."
"It's a him issue. He thinks his feelings on this are more important than your discomfort about showing your naked body on the side of the road. If he can't figure that out for himself and apologize, it would be a dealbreaker for me." - lelawes
Others agreed and pointed out that the ex-boyfriend was very transphobic.
"NTA. Your boyfriend is clearly transphobic. That is 100% on him. And who cares if people think you are Trans?"
"'He said he didn't want people to look at the girl he was dating and think she was Trans.' And you don't want people to think you're dating someone bigoted and hateful." - GreekAmericanDom
"He may not consider himself transphobic ('I don't hate Trans people! I just don't want to be associated with them or have anyone think I'm with a Trans person!'), but he absolutely is, probably with a healthy side helping of homophobia."
"Why would he care, unless a) Trans women are not women in his eyes, or b) it somehow would be emasculating or embarrassing to his ego to be with a Trans woman."
"Also, you're in a traffic jam. Who the f**k is even watching close enough to care, and who of those people matters enough to give two s**ts about what they think."
"Not to mention, he's being weirdly controlling about your behaviors and how they reflect on him in a scenario where arguably he's never going to interact with a single person he's worrying about." - maladicta228
"This post reminds me of the time I got dressed to go to a function. It was a casual gathering. My kid (this was solidly on their father, my ex, as he's gotten insanely bigoted as he's aged) said, 'Mom, you're dressed like a Lesbian.'"
"Me: 'Lesbians have great fashion sense, I'd love to be mistaken for one.'"
"They paused for a second and realized that I truly wasn't dressing for men (despite it being my husband's work function), and that being seen as a lesbian was a good thing. I'm so glad I raised them to think for themselves, and realize that one can be wrong, admit it, and work on being a better person every day. They've never said anything like that since." - baconbitsy
"He's so insecure (and transphobic) that he cares more about what some strangers in a traffic jam might wrongly assume about you (and thereby him) than YOUR needs, comfort, and health."
"He expected you to prioritize his insecurities (feelings) above that and then punished you when you prioritized your health."
"You sure you want to be with someone like that?? NTA." - molotovmerkin
"Your boyfriend is so transphobic that he wants you to expose your genitalia on the side of the road to prove that you're not a Trans woman because he can't stand the idea of a total stranger, in a neighboring car, whom he will never speak to or see ever again, thinking he MIGHT be SHARING A CAR (because the strangers in other cars have no idea that you're dating) with a Trans woman."
"You're NTA, but get a better boyfriend." - HighCsummer
"Literally, you have to be super transphobic to think people in traffic are gonna judge you if your girlfriend is standing to pee. Like come onnnnnn, this is some insane insecurity." - Responsible-Pickle-2
Some pointed out that not only was the ex-boyfriend transphobic, but also controlling.
"This won't be the last time he expects OP to sacrifice things or make her life worse so that she can conform to his ideal of feminine stereotypes and keep up appearances for his fragile masculine ego."
"And that he gave her the silent treatment for not obliging his transphobia and misogyny disguised as 'feelings' is also problematic." - blancamystiere
"He's insecure and transphobic. He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort."
"NTA, and honestly, you can do better than this specimen." - PetersMapProject
"NTA. Your boyfriend would have preferred for everyone to see your a** and vagina than have a random stranger think his girlfriend is Trans. He would rather you expose yourself for his personal gain."
"Get a better boyfriend." - Amaze-balls-trippen
"The transphobia? The insecurity? And the silent treatment when he doesn't get his way?"
"So many red flags!" - CarolynDesign
"He also puts his insecurity and transphobia above your comfort and safety."
"He would rather you invite unwanted attention and risk by exposing your private parts to the world than have people think he (who most of the onlookers couldn't even see) might be dating a Trans person."
"NTA. OP, he's too insecure, self-centered, and immature to be a good partner to you, given that he's willing to compromise your safety to avoid a single twinge of discomfort. Dump him." - Hari_om_tat_sat
After receiving feedback, the OP was reassured and shared some positive updates.
"UPDATE: Thank you, everyone, for helping me feel sane again!"
"I got quite a few questions about which device I use, and honestly, it's about what fits you best. There are a ton of options. It's what fits you. Check out pStyle, Freshette, and EllaPee."
"I tried peeing standing up in a toilet, and it worked fine. I think my aim was pretty good, but then I saw little droplets on the floor. No thanks, don't need that. Also, it's loud? Awkward."
"But for the outside, it's pretty fun! I drive a lot, that's why it was in my car. Lifesaver."
"Also, I guess in this case it brought out an ugly side of my (ex) boyfriend and clarified some stuff for me. A winner all around."
"And to all the commenters asking, YES, he is an ex-boyfriend now."
"And yes, there were other red flags."
"Ditched the man, kept the pee funnel. Gonna laugh at him every time I pee standing up."
There's no way to imagine just how awkward the rest of the car ride was after using the restroom and returning to the now-silent and very entitled boyfriend, still stuck in a traffic jam.
But fortunately for the OP, she learned something vital about her relationship during a moment that should have been a total non-issue.
By being concerned about this and expecting the OP to prioritize her ex's pride over her comfort, safety, and cleanliness, her ex told her everything she needed to know.