Relationships are never split evenly.
Whether we're talking about friendships, co-workers or lovers, the division of labor and resources is never perfect.
So, the question becomes how to navigate the disparity and what happens when one side seems to relish in that imbalance.
That was the issue facing Redditor and Original Poster (OP) InteractionFirst5109 when she came to the "Am I the A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for judgment.
She asked:
"AITA For Refusing To Venmo My Friend For Pizza & Possibly Ending The Entire Friendship Over It?"
A quick introduction.
"I (26F) have been best friends with Dawn (30F)."
"Dawn lives alone, does not have a license, and works full time."
"I work full time as well, I have a car and make significantly more money than Dawn."
"From the start of our friendship/ any relationship I am in I've always been someone who doesn't mind picking up the tab, driving, hosting, cooking, etc., and do these things without any expectation of anything in return."
"As my love language is acts of service and giving."
A shift in behavior.
"Within the last year of our friendship I've noticed Dawn stopped bringing cash out, when we went out."
"I thought this was rude so started asking for split bills, every time I did this Dawn would make it known how 'poor' she is and I noticed her bringing up financials all the time."
"This made me uncomfortable and honestly annoyed because Dawn is not poor, Dawn just lives like she's a millionaire, Ubers everywhere, doordash every meal, Starbucks everyday, going out to the bar every night, etc."
"On Friday Dawn and I went out and I drove us( like I always do), paid for dinner and a drink, then took us home and we continued drinking at her place."
"A few hours later Dawn asks if I wanted to get pizza delivered I said sure."
"With the promo she had the pizza costs 15$ish dollars delivery charge included and when it arrived she told me I wasn't allowed to have a slice until I venmo her $7.50."
OP took a stand.
"I don't know why this is when I snapped, but I did and I told her it hurts my feelings that I feel like I do a lot for her and this is ridiculous."
"She then says 'I'm poor and you're rich' and then I really snapped and told her that she's not poor, she's broke. - I said this because she makes good money, she's just f*cking terrible with it."
"For info - I do make a significant amount more than her and maybe that makes me the a**hole."
"I also don't feel great about throwing the things I've done for her in the past in her face during this argument, as I really did do those out of love and never with the intentions of anything in return."
OP was left to wonder,
"Am I the a**hole for thinking it's ridiculous to ask me for $7.50?".
Having explained the situation, OP turned to Reddit for judgment.
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
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- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors decided: NTA
The entitlement.
"NTA. If she wanted to split the pizza bill, she should have said that before ordering."
"The way she asked - venmo before eating - is insanely rude even if you hadn't already paid for a lot."
"It's clear she feels entitled to your money, which isn't reasonable even if you do make more than her." ~ reggiesnap
"NTA."
"This 'friend' is using you."
"If you want to maintain contact set ground rules moving forward."
"Like everything you do you pay for your own."
"Watch how fast she stops coming around or asking to do things."
"She's greedy. Poor with money and feels entitled to yours."
"Boundaries or nada moving forward." ~ thinkingwhynot
"I've been in a similar situation as OP."
"I did so much for my friend from covering rent (we were roommates), paying for all of the groceries, to even helping her get makeup and fake nails."
"I did it all because i cared for her, and i wanted her to be happy."
"She ended up not paying me back for anything i did in any way, shape, or form, not even a thank you from her after a while."
"She just expected it from me."
"So when she did have an opportunity to do a little something nice for me, for absolutely free might i add, and she just 'didn't think about it' I moved tf out and blocked her on everything."
"NTA OP: I've been there and done that. Nothing will change or get better if you don't stand your ground and draw a boundry. I hope you can keep this energy for future friends." ~ GaiboiMclovin
"'This 'friend' is using you'"
"And is rather short-sighted as well, I have to say."
"If she had just been a little less overt, it sounds like she could've kept the gravy train going indefinitely."
"Instead, she's blown things up over not being willing to chip in a few bucks every once in a while." ~
scarves_and_miracles
Dawn's motivations might be sinister.
"NTA"
"She's been taking advantage of you for a while."
"It's always hard to know who your friends are when money's involved."
"It's one thing to have everybody at the table taking out their money and one person saying 'I've got this' and a completely different thing for everyone at the table to not bring money because one person often covers the whole check." ~ AgentAlpo
"👆🏾 This."
"OP, you need to listen to this. Dawn is taking advantage of you, and I dare say your love language will continue to make you vulnerable to this type of dependence or outright leeching."
"Life lesson:"
"You need to be more circumspect with how you share favors with people."
"Do it only with people who are of the same mindset."
"Mindset doesn't mean they need to be of the same income level or even that they match your generosity 1:1 by picking up the tab every other time..."
"No, rather that they make the offer (and are genuinely willing to pay) on some occasions and do not have an expectation that you'll pick up the tab."
"You'll have more inner peace and honestly, you'll feel better about your generosity because you know it is truly appreciated and not seen as an entitlement."
"Dawn's friendship is 100% worth losing, but I think you already knew that."
"NTA." ~ Consistent-Annual268
Money Management?
"NTA- I am so sick of financially irresponsible people claiming to be poor or being mad at rich people."
"I literally argued with a girl making $280k!!! Who was talking about she can't afford to live in the Bay Area and how it was millionaires fault."
"Like maybe don't argue with driving your $70k vehicle and in your designer cloths while you have $1000 delivery app fee each month" ~ Drew_P_Nuts
"I'm right there with you. Having better money management would make a lot of 'poor' people seem not so poor."
"My husband and I make under 70k a year combined with 2 kids."
"And I would never call us poor because we make due and it absolutely grinds my gears when I see people make double what we do and complain about money and expect us to pick up tabs because we don't complain about being poor so we must have more money."
"Your friend clearly prioritizes her own luxuries over being a decent friend." ~ Mo-2s2
"Poor and broke are 2 different things."
"I grew up poor, like being food insecure and housing insecure at certain points."
"There is no extra money."
"I've been broke, so to speak, in the past."
"But, you friend is just using you."
"She sees nothing wrong with mooching off of you and probably others, even though she refuses to manage her money better."
"This isn't the kind of friend you need." ~ bloodrose_80
Guilt.
"You don't need to feel guilty."
"There is a huge difference in offering to pay a bit more sometimes, or treating someone, because you know you earn more, and feeling obligated to do it every time, or, worse, have someone assume that they are entitled to it."
"Think about why you were friends in the first place, and whether she is someone you still have things in common with and enjoy spending time with."
"IF so, then great. If not - well, people grow and change, and sometimes they grown apart. That doesn't make either of you bad people."
"If you do still feel that you have enough in common that you want to stay friends, then think about how much you are prepared to do -"
"That might mean that you are willing to drive her and not ask for gas money but don[t want to pay the bills for food or events, it might mean that you insist that you split bills evenly but decide that you are happy to cover the tip."
"IT might mean that you are clear with her tht you feel the financial expectations are making you feel used so you want to revert to hanging out without doing stuff that costs money / much money."
"Or that you want to agree up front that any costs will be split 50/50 , and then see how she responds." ~ ProfessorYaffle1
The division of labor or resources or time isn't really the point here.
There's no even split that's going to be perfect all the time across any sort of relationship and the real question is are all parties giving all they can?
Be kind.















Woman Irate After 'Misogynistic' Date 'Insults' Her In Front Of Waiter For Interrupting Him
While dating is supposed to be fun and the best way to find new love, some people are just not meant to date each other.
Fortunately, people can get out of dating someone, and no reason is too small or petty, members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subreddit pointed out.
Redditor Mental_Driver_6134 had been dating a guy on and off for over a year, and while things were okay, there hadn't been a particular reason to make the relationship more serious.
When they went on a date, and the guy publicly insulted her for interrupting him and speaking out of turn, the Original Poster (OP) was not certain it was worth going on another date with him or continuing to string this situationship along.
She asked the sub:
At a restaurant, the OP's date wasn't being clear while speaking with the waiter.
"I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off. We discussed the order and were in a good mood overall."
"When the waiter came to take the order, he started explaining him something about his preference for a particular dish. Basically, he didn't want too much garlic in chili burnt garlic noodles."
"Everything was going fine, but I saw that he was taking too much time explaining it and wasn't really getting to the main point, which was less garlic."
"I chimed in and casually said, 'We just want less garlic.'"
"But I couldn't even complete the sentence before he said to me in front of the waiter, 'If you're gonna cut me off like this, I'm not giving any orders, okay?!' in the rudest way possible."
The moment ruined the date for the OP.
"I just went quiet after that. He quickly realized that he made a mistake and tried to cover up by saying that, 'Okay , I won't shout at you next time onwards.'"
"I was really p**sed off but didn't react much to avoid creating a scene."
"On our way back home, he started with his explanation. He said that I tried to make him feel small by cutting him off and lacked basic etiquette and that I should have at least said, 'Can I give my opinion here?- before cutting him off."
"It kept getting worse as he said that since he was the older one and 'The Man,' I should not have interrupted him and let him give the order."
"The whole tone was so misogynistic."
"He even mocked me for not knowing how to use chopsticks properly, which I didn't mind as basic banter, and I told him that there are forks and spoons kept here; it's not necessary to use the chopsticks (he ended up dropping his dumpling while explaining to me how to use chopsticks)."
"When the noodles came, he said that we could use forks then, and I was like, 'No, why not use chopsticks here, as well? You should watch more anime, maybe,' and he then went on to brag about having been to many five-star restaurants, which implied that he knew more than me and that I lacked any 'real experience.'"
The OP was over it by the end of the conversation.
"I was too exhausted from this; it seemed so nonsensical that I left later and told him to maintain a distance."
"Later he was saying that I'm stuck on such a small thing and that he won't shout again, but it was my mistake that I tried to cut him off (which wasn't my intention at all)."
"Also, sidenote: He's like four and a half years older than me. I met him last September and on and off many times with a few months of minimal contact. These offs end with him acting as if nothing happened."
"This incident was the calmest he's behaved if compared to past situations, so you can guess what the worst may have looked like."
"I only gave him a chance cause he was trying to control his anger issues. But I think you can't expect a 29-year-old to fix the misogyny."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that she was right to be upset.
"He was s**tty, but it was her fault; I just love that. NOR."
"If she hadn’t interrupted his highness, none of this would have happened. Why can’t she just admit it?"
"I’m so glad I’m long out of the dating pool. There is no bar anymore; it’s what can I get from you while I treat you like s**t. Man, the good old days of dating are long over." - Shadow4summer
"NOR. The 'I'm the man' line revealed everything OP needs to know about him. He couldn't handle a simple, harmless interruption, so he tried to humiliate her in public to regain control. Taking his own dumpling dive while trying to act superior is peak karma, honestly." - virelaczi
"NOR! If a 'small' man tries to put you down in public on a date, run the eff away! It doesn’t matter if it’s two dates, two months, or two YEARS!" - Delicious_Winner_819
"Not overreacting, this man is clearly insecure and controlling. Not to mention a misogynist. Instead of being on and off, just be off. It's better to be single than to be with someone who tries to make you feel less than." - curiouscuriel
"'I know better than you.'"
"Should tell you ALL you need to know about this 'man'. Go and find somebody who will treat you as their person... and not an object. That is what is not sitting right with you."
"NOR. And bloody run!!! I wouldn't even give him the time of day after an experience like that." - pootling_1976
"My ex would constantly say, 'You're interrupting me.' I was not. He was a psycho."
"This is how it went, for example:"
"Him: I am ordering chicken and snow peas and white rice [long pause]."
"I start to say ANYTHING (the place is on effing fire!), and he would berate me, 'You interrupted me, you ALWAYS do that, I can never speak, blah, blah blah.'"
"I say, 'Lucifer (what I call him behind his back), you took a long pause. I waited, and I thought you were done.'"
"Then THAT becomes a pile of s**t convo, more berating... He was so manipulative and verbally abusive; I cannot even scratch the surface here."
"So, no. That date is a Lucifer, and you should never even speak to him again." - Belmontisnowhideous
Others pointed out that the OP didn't have to keep dating him if this is how she felt about him.
"Great news! You do not need to spend any more time with this guy." - Blue-flash
"If you marry this guy, this behavior will only get worse. He doesn’t respect women, and he probably never will. I'd stop dating him now before you waste more time." - Additional-Start9455
"NOR. Don’t waste another minute of your life on an angry man. He’ll get worse, not better. Just find a guy who doesn’t need fixing." - Broad_Pomegranate141
"I mean, him being an insufferable smug jerk is not a small thing."
"'I went on a dinner date with this guy who I've been with for over a year now, on and off.' But this strikes me as an elephant in the room."
"It isn't often that good, healthy relationships are on and off again. And given how profoundly rude he was, how immediately he doubled down, how condescending, etc., I can't help but think this isn't the first time he's been gross as a partner."
"NOR, but really ask yourself what you're doing here. This can't be the life you hoped for, and you know he isn't going to change as well." - Traeyze
"NOR. There's no way to live with this kind of man, honestly, and OP should definitely leave this guy."
"A year of on and off with kind of behavior is basically a preview of the next ten." - NoEar4226
"NOR. I've broken up with guys like that by telling them they were right all along. I'm just not smart enough for him. He deserves someone on his own level..."
"Hopefully he picks up the hint and does some self-reflection for his future dates (with other women)."
"For what it's worth, I have two post-graduate degrees." - PomeloPepper
"When someone treats you like s**t, you do NOT have to stay with them, no matter how long you've been together."
"Unfortunately, my therapist had to explain this to me a short time after I started seeing her because my parents never gave me any autonomy to make my own decisions. I didn’t know that I could just leave places that I didn’t feel safe in because it wasn’t an option for me until then."
"Some people do need to be given permission to do what’s best for them because of the way they were treated by their parents."
"Hopefully she does leave him because he sucks, and with the way he treats her, things will likely get worse for her." - Accomplished_Dig284
We've all heard the advice to not cry over spilled milk, but clearly, this date must fuss over garlicky noodles.
To the subReddit, it wasn't worth continuing to date a man who clearly had anger and control issues, especially given everything going on in society right now.
The OP would be better off staying single for a while or dating someone new, preferably someone who respects their differences about noodles and chopsticks.