Content Warning: Alcoholism, Sobriety
When a person struggles with addiction and gets sober, the next tough step is reacquainting themselves with society and creating a space for success for themselves, including getting and keeping a job.
It can be really hard in the beginning to find an employer who will take a chance on them, let alone exhibit the work ethic and habits they need to keep the job, pointed out the members of the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
Redditor tossawayaccount1800 had a successful small sewing business, and when her sister became sober but struggled to find a job, she had no problem offering her sister an employee position so she could get back on her feet.
But when her parents heard about offering the position to her sister, the Original Poster (OP) was shocked that they demanded much more for her sister, rather than being grateful for the opportunity.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for telling my family that my sister couldn't work with me because of them?"
The OP had a successful sewing business.
"I (28 Female) run my own business as a seamstress, selling clothes I've made as well as doing alterations."
"I've been open for two years, and I do a steady business, and my primary income from my business is in the alterations I do."
The OP's sister, Lana, was sober and working to get back on her feet.
"I have a sister, Lana (29 Female). Lana is currently a recovering alcoholic, and I'm trying my best to support her."
"Due to DUIs, she has been struggling to find a job, and her mental health isn't helping her keep any job she finds."
"I feel really bad for her, and while we were visiting my parents on Monday, I made the offer that she could work for me. When I made the offer, I said that she could help with inventory and at the register like a normal employee."
"She seemed pretty on board but said she would have to think about it, since she didn't want to leech off me, which I appreciated."
"Our parents were also really on board and encouraging and thought this would be a great opportunity for both of us."
The OP was surprised when her parents called with a list of demands for the job.
"Wednesday, my mom called me and asked if the building would now be in both Lana and my name."
"I asked her what she meant, and she said since Lana would be co-owner, her name should be on the lease."
"I told her it wouldn't, because she wouldn't be a co-owner. I made it clear to my mother that Lana would be like any other employee. The reason I wanted her to work with me is so if she relapses, she wouldn't risk losing her job again since I know what she's going through."
"Mom beat around the bush, trying to convince me to make Lana co-owner, and I repeatedly told her no, not only for Lana's sake but also the sake of my business."
"I don't think Lana would be a bad co-owner, but at this time, she's still fairly unstable, and I don't want her to get stressed and fully break her sobriety."
"I made this clear to my mother in our phone call before she eventually gave up."
In the meantime, Lana was grateful to be hired.
"I thought that was the end of it, and a few hours later, Lana called to ask if I were to hire her, what she would be doing. I told her the same thing I said at dinner, that she would mostly be doing inventory, register, etc."
"She asked if she would help with any of the clothes, and I told her that when she learned to sew, I would consider it."
"She accepted and seemed excited with the arrangement since both of us have always loved fashion, and we agreed I would host an interview with her at the end of next week on my day off."
Despite Lana's gratitude, the OP's parents continued to push the issue.
"My dad called me yesterday, scolding me about the position I was putting Lana in, and was telling me a meaner version of what my mother was saying, and continuously trying to hound me to give Lana a higher position."
"I was getting really frustrated, and I told him that if he and my mom wouldn't stop pushing, I just wouldn't hire Lana at all."
"My dad called me a terrible sister before hanging up."
The OP was no longer sure about hiring her sister.
"I called Lana and told her what happened, and my words about not hiring her."
"She got upset with me, and I apologized and told her I still wanted her to work with me; I just didn't want the drama with mom and dad."
"She understood but is still upset with me that I would even say that in the heat of the moment."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some were shocked that this was how the OP's parents were handling themselves.
"NTA. Ask your dad if he would give away half his business to a drunk sibling who has no experience. Because that is what your mother is demanding." - Lucky-Effective-1564
"Ask your parents why they haven't added her to the deed. She lives there, so she must be a co-owner of the house by default." - pugmcmuffins
"They want to dump her on you. That is absolutely the plan. Next step, she is moving into OP's home. NTA." - slendermanismydad
"If this is how your parents are supporting Lana in her recovery, I can see why she may be a bit unstable on top of her recovery efforts. Unlike them, continue to be realistic with love, supportive of her, and ignore them."
"DON'T ENGAGE! Congrats on your business! NTA." - Proper-District8608
"Ask your parents why they don't want Lana to work for you, next time they bring it up. Point out to them that you love Lana, you want to support her, you were happy to give her a job and train her how to sew, and you commit to not firing her if she has a relapse, all of that, so why on earth are your parents trying to lose Lana the job in advance? What is it about the job that makes them prefer Lana to stay home with them, unemployed?"
"Keep pushing that! Your parents are causing drama. Your parents are trying to lose Lana the job you're prepared to offer, in advance! Why don't they want Lana to work with you? Don't they trust you? Why are they pushing so hard for Lana not to get any job with you?"
"But stick to telling that to your parents, not to Lana!" - Enough-Process9773
Others were similarly shocked that the parents wanted the OP to potentially compromise her business.
"It's a sewing business, and she doesn't sew!! It takes a long time to get good enough at sewing to do what you do. Do NOT give her half your business. Ever. You are kind to be willing to employ her. That is enough." - EconomyVoice7358
"It's not outside the realm of possibility to have someone run the 'business side' of a company, while another runs the 'creative side' of a business. However, that would mean the sister would need a business or finance degree, typically."
"Successful artists often have spouses who deal with the minutiae of sales and marketing, or at least agents, as do authors. It's not impossible, but often people in more creative or artistic fields will admit to lacking hard business skills; their talents lie elsewhere, which is okay as many business folks are incapable of creating art or literature."
"The fact that OP has grown her own business and embraced both sides, artistic and practical, says much about her." - 2dogslife
"Ten to one, your parents are after the money a 'co-owner' would be making, via charging your sister rent, while in practice they're expecting you to handle all the owner duties and put your sister in the low-stress role you told her. All the benefits, none of the work." - Toriyoki
"I, like a lot of other commenters, agree that too much stress would not be helpful for Lana right now. What you propose sounds appropriate and safe."
"I think the reason she is so upset with your statement, though, is that she had been looking at this job as, essentially, perfect. Not too much stress, and under someone who cares for her and her sobriety; a safe place."
"I can only imagine the relief she felt, assured of employment and the stability that would bring. To find out that not only was this not the rock she thought it was, but that something she didn't even do could cause her to lose it, she must feel so powerless."
"A situation she saw as stable has turned out to be very precarious. It would take a lot to make me think I could trust in it, and in the parties involved. But that's just me. Maybe your sister is more robust and self-assured than I am." - supergamernerd
"NTA. You sound like a wonderful sister. I think your decision to offer her a low-stress position was well thought out and very kind and generous."
"I don't understand why your parents are pushing for you to dump so much responsibility onto her when even she seems to understand that it wouldn't benefit her and might actually harm her recovery."
"Do they often have extremely high expectations of you both? I hope they come around because it sounds like this would be a great opportunity for you both." - Not_Cardiologist9084
After receiving feedback, the OP shared an update in a second post.
"So, before I get into the update, I would like to clear some questions that were raised in the comments. I tried my best to answer them all but I got a lot."
"First, Lana is not a felon. In our state, her DUIs are considered misdemeanors due to the BAC level she had, plus the fact that her only crime while driving under the influence was going below the speed limit."
"Second, my parents' behavior was very out of the blue; they're usually very supportive and rational, but I think that the stress of Lana is making them act irrationally. As one commenter put it, they see her working for me as a 'magic bullet to fix everything,' and when I tried to set the boundary of her being an employee rather than a co-owner, they thought I was not going to give her a good job at all."
"Third, my business is very small, I run it all by myself, and like I said in my first post, most of my money comes from alterations rather than my own designs."
"Fourth, what I said about Lana not getting the job was heat-of-the-moment frustration when talking to my dad. He was yelling at me over the phone and was being incredibly pushy, and it felt like I was talking to a brick wall. I still have full intentions to hire Lana, and the interview for this coming Friday is still on. I just said it to try and get dad off my back, and I apologized to Lana about even saying it to begin with, since it wasn't fair to her."
"Fifth, some people were implying Lana's drinking had to do with our parents; it does not. Up until this point, we've never had any major rifts with our family, and we've always been incredibly tight-knit. The reason for her drinking was because of something outside of us."
The OP had an incredibly helpful conversation with her family.
"Now, here's the update."
"Lana called me after dinner last night, and we talked. She spoke with our parents and told me that my suspicions of a lot of this being a stress-filled misunderstanding were correct, and she invited me over this morning for breakfast with them all. I got back literally minutes ago as I'm writing this."
"It was pretty awkward at first. Our parents were still on this high horse about Lana getting a good position; however, we were able to talk it out. Lana explained how she doesn't feel ready for such a position while she's still recovering and how it would make her feel like she's leeching off me."
"She also pointed out that their pushiness was impacting her and my relationship and stressing her out more, since she felt like she had to pick a side. She appreciated their concern; however, as she pointed out, that concern was coming at a detriment to all of us."
"I told them how I felt like they didn't respect my business and how hurtful their words and actions were, especially my dad yelling at me as raised voices have always been something I'm sensitive about."
"I explained my perspective of how I didn't want to stress out Lana with a position she really isn't ready for, nor does she have the experience for, and it felt like I was getting punished for trying to help her out"
"I brought up what another commenter said about how it was like expecting me to put her on the lease of my apartment that she doesn't even live in."
"My parents really took some time to think over what Lana and I were saying while they made breakfast, and when we sat down to eat they apologized to us and explained that they were terrified of Lana having another relapse."
"Apparently, before we were born, my mom's cousin suffered from addiction and mental health issues, which eventually led to her losing her life, and they were terrified that the same might happen to Lana, which was why they were pushing for a more 'permanent' position."
"It was a hard talk, but those were the important bits. It ended with some tears from my mom and so, so, SO many apologies."
The OP and the family made a plan for what to do next.
"We've all agreed it would be good to look into family therapy. Lana is already seeing an addiction psychologist and plans to consult them about good family support groups and therapists at her next session."
"My parents keep occasionally texting me, asking if I need help with anything and if I'm okay, which is their way of apologizing even more."
"The interview between Lana and me is still on, and I've already set some boundaries with her about what it means working under me to ensure she has structure without enabling her, and when we get the therapist, I'll also be speaking with them for more tips."
"I'm a bit surprised things resolved this fast, but not really. My family and lingering tension are like oil and water; none of us can ever go to bed upset. I think things are going to be weird for a while, but in the end, I think it'll be alright."
"I'm excited to work with Lana, and I am nervous but eager to start family therapy, since I think it will be good for all of us. Thank you all for your kind comments and support."
Fellow Redditors were hopeful for the OP and Lana's future.
"This is a great update! Thanks for posting it. Best wishes to Lana, if you can pass this on from a stranger on the internet, and great respect to you." - Enough-Process9773
"Still can't believe that your parents wanted Lana, who can't even SEW, to be co-owner of your tailoring and design business."
"I watch Bernadette Banner videos. Sewing is a skill." - Dana07620
"As someone who comes from a family with generations of addiction… not many people understand that addiction not only destroys the person, but those around them, and how much they suffer for it. I feel for both you and your parents, and Lana."
"I genuinely hope for recovery for her and healing for your family. Best of luck." - croatianlatina
"If your sister were seeking a partnership with you, she would have to buy into it. The business would be audited by an outside company, and sister would pay you 50 percent of its value. Then you'd be in a partnership."
"Please don't give over half of your company just because she is your sister. Not now or later. If you do a deep dive into family-owned businesses, you would see that they are not as good as they seem. Best of luck in the future." - MentalCycle3111
"It sounds like you'll all be okay in the long run as long as you continue to communicate. This shows very clearly how addiction affects more than just the user, and I think it's great that you're all looking into getting some help to deal with this."
"I hope you're all able to find some healing and that your relationships are made stronger through this. Good luck to all of you." - Not_Cardiologist9084
After the OP's update, it seemed that the family would be able to recover and take the next step.
The OP was already going above and beyond by offering a position to her sister, who didn't have the qualifications, whether or not she eventually relapsed. She didn't need to further compromise and hand over half of her business, too.















Woman Asks If It's Wrong To Hold Grudge After Mom Told Her When She 8 Years Old That She Wished She'd Aborted Her
While some people view having and raising children as the greatest blessing, some parents hold their children's existence against them for their entire lives.
And when they feel that way about their children, they're unfortunately typically pretty honest about it, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor heavelymango knew from the time she was young that her mother did not really like her and significantly favored her sister.
But when her mother told her at the age of eight that she wished she had aborted her, the Original Poster (OP) held on to that grudge for years after the fact.
She asked the sub:
The OP had a grudge against her mother.
"I (22 Female) have been holding onto a grudge due to something my mom told me when I was roughly eight or nine years old."
"Growing up, I was a rebellious kid and always felt as if my mom favored my older sister. My sister would always get whatever she wanted."
"I know she was born with Down syndrome and always needed more attention and care, but if my sister wanted my tablet, for example, she would have it for the whole day while mine was limited to 30 minutes so she could have it."
"As a kid, I lashed out more because of this. She could take all of my things, but I could never use hers."
During a heated moment, the OP's mother said something unforgivable.
"Eventually, this led to an argument with my mom. I don't recall the whole thing, but it was related to my sister and how I felt my mom didn't care about me or give me the same amount of attention."
"The fight got heated, and I probably told my mom that I hated my sister and her."
"I remember she said back, 'I never wanted you from the start. I knew I should've aborted you when I had the chance.'"
" I didn't know what aborted meant at the time, and I remember I looked it up, and it made me cry. I never forgot it, and it lingers in my mind whenever I am home."
The OP's mother pressured her to "let it go" and move on.
"Even growing up, I still brought it up, and she would get mad, saying I need to let it go and how I'm stubborn for not just forgetting what she said."
"There was even a time in high school when she took me to a therapist, and she complained about how I never dropped what she said."
"She says I need to move on from it because it has affected my relationship with her, and she wants to fix it."
"I know I'm older now and it was so long ago, but it still hurts, and I feel like it's made me not want to have her in my life in the future, and I have told this to her."
"How I don't want her in my life once I move out, get married, or have my own kids."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that this sounded like a core memory more than a grudge.
"The axe forgets. The tree remembers."
"It sounds less like you're holding a grudge and more that this is a formative, core memory for you."
"It won't stop being a core memory (unless maybe with the help of a lot of therapy). Has your mom ever apologized for saying that? Because you don't have to forget to forgive, but if she's not remorseful for saying that terrible thing to her young child (not just remorseful that you remember it), then she probably needs therapy (or is a narcissist/sociopath/similar)."
"You are certainly not obligated to 'get over it.'" - Hot-Can3615
"This is not a 'grudge'; it is pain that is still felt to such a degree. If she said it, then she was thinking it. She'll probably never apologize, but that doesn't mean your pain is or was invalid." - Fast_Register_9480
"NOR. This kind of thing needs a real apology. Like she needs to acknowledge the damage and genuinely care about it. Brushing it off won’t make it go away." - TentacleWolverine
"NOR. Did she really want to fix things? She basically just told you to get over it from the start instead of giving you a sincere apology."
"That isn't working on anything. She wants you to get over it so she can pretend that she never said it, so she doesn't have to feel bad about what she did. It doesn't sound like she cares much about how you feel."
"She just doesn't want to deal with it. For that reason, I would still have issues with what she said." - Chemical-Ad6809
"If your relationship with your mother is being affected by the actions of your mother, your mother is responsible for fixing it."
"You should know you probably aren't ever going to get closure, but you don't have to swallow it down. It helps to be the person you needed when you were younger out loud to yourself, but especially to others."
"For example: My name is Liz, and my mom told me to go ahead and do it already and save us all the heartache when I finally had the courage to tell her about how much I've been struggling with self-harm and suicidal ideation. I'm never going to forgive her for that, and we have never been close as a result of her actions."
"You aren't holding onto a grudge; you have a core memory of your mother distilling her feelings into a world-shattering sentence."
"You did not have a secure attachment before and can't have one now because of the deep trauma. You do not apologize for being stabbed."
"Find another therapist. I mean it. Someone who cares about your well-being wouldn't force you to apologize for being verbally abused as a child. I'm 29 now, and I lived through it. I still struggle with suicidal ideation daily, but once I stopped relying on my mom and unstable sources for support, my life got better immediately."
"You want things for comfort and familiarity. Don't let your mom or your therapist gaslight you into crossing a boundary."
"It might help to ask for a written five-part apology from your mom. 1. Acknowledge what you did 2. Say why it was wrong 3. Promise not to do it again 4. Ask how to make amends. 5. Share your feelings at this time if there's anything you'd like to say."
"My mom can be a good person and a bad mom and role model. Being in your own company is so much better than poor company." - PotLuckyPodcast
Others hoped the OP would go no contact with her mother sooner rather than later.
"NOR. It’s emotional abuse. And you do not owe her closeness after that, especially as she refuses to be accountable for that and try to make it up to you."
"She knows you have her number, and she can’t forgive you for knowing what a colloidal b***h she is."
"It’s unlikely that will change; it will at least be turned back on you with her the victim."
"Stop expecting her to apologize. If she doesn’t pay your bills, ghost her." - SnooCheesecakes2723
"My mom said something similar. My brother and I were adopted, and when I was a teen, in front of a church lady, she said, 'We didn't even really want you, but the people didn't want to split y'all up, so we just took you, too.'"
"Me and the church lady were shook. When I say my falbbers were ghasted. Like huh? She didn't remember saying that when I brought it up years after the fact."
"I also got grounded two times for two separate nine weeks (for C's on my report card) and a three and a half to four months (for smoking at 16 and getting caught because she liked to just pop up out of nowhere), and we just had a talk about that, and she didn't even remember."
"She said, 'No, I didn't. I never grounded you for that long,' and when I gave my rebuttal, she said, 'Well, if I did, it definitely wasn't for no nine weeks or months,' and this started because she was praising me for reading so much and liking books. I said, 'Well, when you were grounded like me, that's all I could do (no TV, no friends outside of school, no music, nothing but my room and books)."
"There's a reason I only call or answer her calls once or twice every few weeks. And I only call to get food, really..." - ManicalMoe
"‘Fine, I'm sorry’ is not an apology."
"Whilst I’m sure it was said in anger, most things said in anger have a grain of truth. There are also some things that no half-decent parent ever says to their children, no matter how angry they are, and this is one of them! It also sounds like she has made repeated similar comments of not wanting you as her child."
"I understand her eldest had a disability, but this is no excuse for neglecting and emotionally abusing her younger child. Lots of families deal with a child with additional needs whilst still managing to prioritise their other kids. Children with Down syndrome are capable of understanding ‘that’s your sister's, not yours; give it back’ !! It sounds like your mum has mental health issues?"
"Do you have a present father or other family you can turn to?"
"Protect your peace. Your mum has hurt you time and time again, honestly, for no real gain other than momentarily satisfying her anger. You owe this woman nothing." - Background_Term9810
"I went through something similar. When I was a little girl, my mother used to make comments that implied she didn't want me, though it was never that explicit. 'I only had you because your brother wanted a sister,' and 'My figure never recovered after you; after your brother, it did.'"
"Each comment stayed with me, but I never addressed it with her. I tried to move on and leave it in the past. She did a lot of horrible things throughout my life, but her behavior was always ignored because that's the precedent my dad set, where she can do essentially whatever she wants."
"A few months ago, she came to see me because I was desperate for help and sick. Instead of helping, she made my life so much worse. I won't go into details. At one point, I could no longer keep it inside, and I told her that she is a narcissist, to which she responded with, 'It would have been better if I had never had you.'"
"In some ways, it felt really good to hear her come out and say it. It felt good to hear the truth I've always known."
"I don't know what you should do, but I've chosen to not forgive."
"Every time I forgave, I just let her know that she can get away with whatever horrible things she had done. Her apologies were never real apologies. She always found ways to blame me or others for whatever she had done."
"And I'm truly just done with it. As sad as it is to not have a mom, it's sadder to pretend that you have one when in reality you don't... quite the opposite, if anything." - Neos_Mom
"So, OP, what will hurt more: keeping her and the grudge in your life or making a break and going low or no contact with her?"
"Frankly, we've no idea of what she might have been dealing with at the time, but regardless, what she said was said only to cause pain and suffering. 'Sorry' doesn't magic that intent away."
"Me, I think spending time alone or with friends or in therapy away from her might be what you need here. You might come to some sort of acceptance, but if this is something that's just going to keep coming between you, then stop trying to have that relationship." - Tal_Tos_72
After the OP received feedback, she shared a few clarifications from her original post.
"I wanted to clear some things up, take accountability where it's due, and provide some much-needed context from many people commenting the same questions."
"I want to be completely honest. We had many arguments, and I was a rebellious kid. I acted out and argued with my mom."
"I don't want to give off the impression that I was an entirely innocent kid who never did anything wrong and my mom just snapped out of nowhere. We both said hateful and hurtful things to each other during our fights."
"Growing up, the only way she would accept an apology was if I got on my knees and begged her for forgiveness. If I ever asked her to apologize to me, she would say, 'I have nothing to apologize for; you should be the one begging for my forgiveness.'"
The OP had a lot of physical memories, too.
"Things also would turn into physical arguments, not just verbal ones."
"There were times when she would get so angry she would get physical. Like yanking me by my hair, twisting my arms, or throwing things at me (like remotes, a bug spray can, or a radio)."
"When she yanked my hair, I would fight back just to get her to let me go, and she would scream that I was trying to kill her and she would get me arrested. When she twisted my arm, and I begged her to stop because it felt like it was going to break, she would say she hoped it did."
"When she threw objects at me, she would say she wished they would hit my face."
"I remember in middle school, during an argument, she said she wished she could break my face and that she hated it because I look like my dad. I won’t lie, whenever she said things like that, I would say nasty comments about how she chose to have him put us in her."
While the OP wasn't financially ready to move out yet, she hoped to as soon as possible.
"Why haven't I moved out yet? The main reason I haven't been able to move out is financial."
"I wasn't making enough to support myself without worrying about whether I’d end up having to crawl back home."
"Thankfully, I have recently found a better-paying job. My plan is to move out between mid-to-late October, or early November at the latest."
"The only reason I can't leave this exact second is because I have a few legal/administrative things to get cleared up so I’m completely untied from my mom, which will take a few weeks."
The OP also had proof that her mother liked her sister better.
"Has my mom ever admitted to favoring my sister? Yes."
"In arguments, she has explicitly told me that she doesn't see me as her legitimate daughter, and that she adored my sister more and forever will. She has also called me a 'monster,' told me there is a certain type of evil inside of me, and said she was afraid I would be just like my dad and try to harm them."
"She would even tell me that she was telling family and friends these things about me, but then later claim she 'just said it in the moment' and wouldn't be crazy enough to actually tell people that."
"Because I was so confused growing up and didn't know if she was lying or telling the truth, I started avoiding our family when they came over."
"Naturally, that just made things worse because she would get mad at me for avoiding them (even now as an adult), completely ignoring the fact that she was the one who lied about what she told them."
Unfortunately, the OP didn't have support from her father.
"What about my dad? My dad is not in my life."
"He was around sporadically, but never as a stable parent. My parents separated before I was born and divorced when I was two or three."
"Growing up, it was just constant back-and-forth toxicity, with him telling me how toxic my mother was, and her telling me the same about him."
"He would mostly only come over to see my sister, and often used me to care for her if he wanted to take her out to eat. Ultimately, my dad didn't care about anyone else other than my sister (and his drugs)."
"I hope this can clear some questions on the original post. I know I didn't provide many details as I originally should have. I honestly didn't want to post something too long, and I honestly did not expect it to be noticed."
"Thank you all for taking time to talk to me and share your thoughts."
The subReddit fully sided with the OP, pointing out that no matter how heated the moment was, it would never excuse the terrible things the OP's mother had said to her.
If the OP's mother really wanted a relationship with her, she'd drop the defensiveness and demands, offer a genuine apology, and work hard to be better for both of her children.
That takes a very rare kind of person to pull off, and it didn't sound like the OP's mother had that in her.
If you or someone you know is struggling, you can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988.
To find help outside the United States, the International Association for Suicide Prevention has resources available at https://findahelpline.com/i/iasp