It's all fun and games until someone releases a dark spirit.
Isn't that what is said about using Ouija boards?
The Ouija board debate has been happening for generations.
Some people think nothing of them, others are sure they open a portal to evil.
Either way, fun can be had by all.
Right?
Redditor ouijamama wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback. So naturally, she came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
She asked:
"WIBTA if I don't apologize for giving my children an Ouija board?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"My wife and I (both 37-year-old women, just so you know how to refer to me in the comments) have lovely twin girls, ten years old."
"This weekend, I was doing errands with one of the twins, 'Sammy.'"
"In one of the big chain stores we stopped in, I noticed a Ouija board on the shelves and sort of laughed because I didn't think they sold those anymore."
"I pointed it out to Sammy and mentioned how I used to play Ouija all the time at sleepovers and how fun and spooky it was, especially around Halloween."
"Sammy thought this sounded awesome (both girls like age-appropriate creepy stuff) and asked if she could get it for her and her sister to play with."
'It wasn't super expensive, so I agreed."
"Sammy was messing around with the box in the car on the way home and was carrying it under her arm in the driveway."
"Our neighbor 'Mallory' (in her 60's I believe) was on her porch and asked her what she had."
"Sammy showed her the box and I thought that was that, but Mallory gestured me over as Sammy headed inside."
"She asked why on Earth I bought that for my girls and didn't I know I was opening up my home to dangerous spirits through such a form of divination etc?"
"This honestly floored me."
"I knew Mallory and her husband were religious, but they've always been fairly chill, and seeing that they gave my wife and me a really nice housewarming present, I assumed fairly modern as well."
"I just said something along the lines of 'Well, we don't see any harm in it' and she doubled down saying things like 'You say that now but you'll regret it later' and I cut her off by saying 'Sure sure I'll regret it when one of the girls gets possessed but right now it's fine.'"
"And I left saying "This convo is done, I'll see you later."'
"When I recounted the story to my wife later, she thought it was absolutely hilarious, but then Mallory's husband texted saying I had upset her greatly."
"I do NOT think I need to apologize, but I would like to keep the peace."
"My wife says I need to do nothing, especially since we're not going to take the girl's game away."
The OP was left to wonder:
"WIBTA if I don't apologize?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA. Your kids, your household, and your beliefs about the supernatural and occult are the only ones that matter here."
"Mallory is a busybody."
"If you actually said 'These convos are done' as your goodbye, I think you were a bit rude, while still right."
"I'm not sure I could have given Mallory much more in the way of a polite response after she doubled down, but that's the only issue here."
'Is Mallory upset that you were rude or that you have a Ouija board now?"
"Those are different responses."
"If it's the rudeness, that warrants a conversation."
"If it's the Ouija board, she needs to mind her business."
"If you're in contact with the husband, and he seems more grounded, you could choose to message back that her insistence on putting her beliefs forward got your back up, and that you'd like to apologize for being curt."
"But also point out that you don't think the Ouija board is any more dangerous than a kids' magic set and won't be apologizing for the object, just conduct (and again, it's hardly necessary unless you think you were actually rude to her)." ~ rockology_adam
"NTA for what you asked about."
"I agree with the above that making amends with the neighbor may be for the best." ~ Farseth
"I don't think there is anything wrong with responding abruptly to someone imposing their judgemental beliefs on others the idea that anything other than obsequious respect is rude needs to go away."
"The neighbor got an appropriate and deserved response." ~ mbsyust
"NTA for not letting your neighbor make your parenting decisions."
"YTA for being the parent in the first act of a horror movie."
"Next you're going to schedule a sleepover, hire an inexperienced babysitter, and go out of town where you can't be reached for the night."
"Did you buy a house that was a great deal because of mysterious disappearances that the realtor didn't have to disclose because they weren't proven deaths?"
"Is there a door in the attic that leads nowhere and can't be opened?"
"Do you... okay, I'll stop."
"I get carried away."
"If you're going to keep the board, hide it from your other sapphic friends."
"Whichever ones are the witchiest or most into astrology will straight up burn it to get it out of your house (I assume that your friends are like my friends, and there is at least one witch in any quorum of lesbians)."
"The idea is basically that it's a tool with no brakes or bumpers."
"If you HAPPEN to connect to anything there is no way to disconnect, so pretty much anybody into the woo-woo is vehemently against them." ~ Big_Zucchini_9800
"I deadpan to people like your neighbor that it's made by Hasbro and sold, like you said, in big box stores."
"The idea that it is anything other than a toy is ludicrous." ~ beyond-dimensions
"NTA. How are we going to raise the next generation of spooky little girls if we don't give them Ouija boards?"
"The spirits aren't going to contact themselves." ~ revengeofthebiscuit
"This is so wild to me because I grew up in the Deep South Bible Belt, church three times a week, and fifty years ago NOBODY CARED that my sister and I and our friends had ouija boards and tarot cards."
"They were regarded as harmless entertainment." ~ ButterflyEmergency30
"NTA. It's amazing when I look back on how scared suburban adults tried to make us kids of Ouija boards."
"It's absolutely nuts."
"Like, they were made in a factory somewhere."
"But please don't be too bothered by your neighbor."
"Growing up in a southern suburb, pretty much every adult urgently warned us that satan was inside those boxes."
"Luckily some of us went back and re-examined how silly that was."
"But plenty of people probably never gave it a second thought."
"Just do your best to ignore her."
"If you push back too hard she's going to assume the devil got ya... lol." ~ MrStealYourWorm
"NTA. Speaking as a religious person, I would never have a Ouija board in my home."
"However, what someone else chooses to bring into their home is not my business."
"Your neighbor is being too nosey."
"If you want to keep the peace, then have a conversation."
"Lay down the boundary."
"Your neighbor has crossed a boundary, and it needs to be reset."
"Something like, I am sorry for my tone during the conversation."
"However, what I purchase for my children and my home is my business, and I will not be discussing it with neighbors."
"And if she comes in with a but or still trying to talk about it, just repeat the statement."
"If your neighbor doesn't drop it, then that's that."
"They chose to ignore the peace." ~ throaway33942
"NTA, but she seemed genuinely worried, and you were kinda rough with her."
"I wouldn't apologize, but I'd make sure I kept saying hello and being pleasant when I saw them."
"I might reply to the message with, 'That wasn't my intention, hope she's okay.'"
"Because that isn't apologizing, but it might help keep the peace if they're usually okay neighbors." ~ Important_Sprinkles9
"Lol, easy NTA."
"Mallory needs to mind her business. Simple." ~ applebum8807
"NTA. I think a skeptic debunker (Penn/Teller?) did a test with Ouija boards."
"When people knew the answer that they were looking for, 100%."
"If not told the answer, total fail."
"It's a kid's toy and can't contact what isn't there." ~ vonnostrum2022
"NTA. You bought a plastic Ouija board from Walmart or wherever."
"Now if it was from some old estate sale and the thing was made of wood and crystals and stuff, well then that's a different story." ~ Paulie_Knuckles
"NTA. Ouija is mass manufactured by Hasbro, which is a publicly-traded company, and no shareholders are going to stand for the margin hit and profitability implications of using real demon-infused chipboard bases or occult-oriented polypropylene for the plinth."
"They increase the cost of goods considerably."
"Interestingly, both materials pass safety standards for the 8+ age grade." ~ WizardsOfTheRoast
"NTA. You are under no obligation to play along with her imaginary game, especially in your own house." ~ DrPhysicsGirl
"Mallory has been watching way too many scary movies and reading way too many Stephen King books."
"If you really want to rock her world - buy the Jumanji game and casually say that you hope the kids don't roll a 5 on the dice because you wouldn't want to explain to the police how one of your children disappeared."
"Ignore her and her husband. NTA." ~ Canadian987
"NTA, but if she starts talking about a captain howdy call a priest." ~ Shot_Western_2755
"The power of Hasbro compels you!!" ~ FairBaker315
OP came back with a few more details...
"I don't know why I thought this wouldn't matter, but I don't believe in ghosts."
"I don't believe in the devil."
"Neither does my wife."
"We are raising our girls to be good, kind people because we believe that that is how humans should be, not because some 'great what if' in a book compels us to be."
"I want them to be smart."
"I want them to be loving."
"I'll eat a spotted lantern fly if the girls manage to talk to a ghost."
"I am 0.000000% worried about bringing an Ouija board into my home."
"I was more upset when my brother gave them liquid slime with glitter."
"Do you know how tough that s**t was to get out of the grout on the tiles in my kitchen?"
Reddit has your back, OP.
Though it may be from a distance should the girls conjure a spirit.
Your neighbor is free to have her own opinion.
And she can keep it to herself.
Have fun with the ghosts.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.