As we grow up, we all go through some changes, learn some new things about ourselves, and find ways to improve ourselves and grow. This might involve what we want to do for a career, what our sexual orientation actually is, and countless other characteristics.
But we shouldn't be surprised if some people don't want to stick around while we change and while we figure things out, reasoned the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor CanItBeTrue-OrNot was shocked when her boyfriend returned home from a work trip and admitted that he had cheated on her with a man, but said that he did not have a choice because of the "high altitude."
As much as she didn't want the relationship to end, the Original Poster (OP) knew that she needed to leave her boyfriend so that he could figure out what he wanted, high altitude or not.
She asked the sub:
"AITAH for not believing my boyfriend that he 'suddenly became gay' due to 'the altitude difference' when he was on a work trip in Utah?"
The OP received some shocking information while her boyfriend was on a work trip.
"I can hardly believe that I am writing this or that it happened, but I am and it did so here we go."
"I (28 Female) have been with my boyfriend (29 Male) for three years."
"Every now and then, he has to go to Utah for a few days because his team has a customer service branch that operates out there."
"During the latest trip, I got a text from one of his coworkers who has become a friend of ours and it said that on the trip my boyfriend cheated on me with some guy on the customer care team."
"I did not believe it at first. Because first of all my boyfriend has always identified as straight. And second of all, I just couldn't believe it."
Her boyfriend's explanation for cheating was even more shocking.
"When he got home, I asked him about it, basically expecting him to confirm it was nonsense."
"Instead, he got real quiet and had us sit down and said he had to tell me something."
"He said it was true, he did have a 'one night stand' with a guy."
"I couldn't believe it. I asked him if he was telling me he was gay? Or bisexual? And regardless cheating is cheating."
"He insisted he was not gay at all but that 'the strangest thing happened' on the trip. He said that when he was at dinner with his Utah coworkers, he 'suddenly became gay.'"
"I was like... what? What the f**k does that mean?"
"He said he thinks it was 'due to the altitude.'"
The OP couldn't believe that her boyfriend expected her to believe this.
"I was like, 'You're f**king with me, right?'"
"But he said after he had done it with this guy, he got really confused as to how 'all of the sudden he was gay.' He said that higher altitudes can have an impact on how people think, and on their emotions, and he thinks that the high altitude made him gay, temporarily."
"He said that as soon as he landed back home he was 'back to being straight.'"
"I was like, did he get drugged or something? But he said that was not possible, they were always in a group at dinner which is when he 'became gay' and was only alone with the guy afterwards."
"He said he had done a lot of thinking on the drive back from the airport and he 'confirmed within himself that he is straight' and that his 'only conclusion' could be that he was 'temporarily turned gay due to the attitude.'"
The OP decided the relationship was over, but her boyfriend begged her to understand.
"I was like, 'Whatever, I guess we are breaking up.' He looked at me confused."
"I was like, 'Gay or not, you did cheat on me.'"
"He said it wasn't his fault and that 'human actions are just a byproduct of accidental brain chemistry' and that 'his chemistry had been altered, through no fault of his own, due to the higher altitudes of Utah.'"
"He said he 'couldn't believe' I would blame him for something 'medical and scientific' that was out of his control. He really looked bewildered that I was angry about this."
"I don't know; maybe he's convincing and I'm a rube; but I am starting to wonder if I am overreacting."
"Like...I know it sounds insane, but IS it possible to accidentally change your sexual orientation due to emotional changes brought on by altitude? Is that possible?"
"And if it is, am I overreacting? Should I throw away a three-year relationship for this? He's acting like I'm being rude and weird."
"I'm confused."
"AITAH?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some hoped her soon-to-be ex-boyfriend's cover story wasn't fooling the OP.
"I've been to Utah a ton… and I haven't felt the slightest change in sexuality. You realize that he's feeding you a crock of s**t, right?"
"Okay. Just wanted to be sure everyone was on the same page. Now to deal with the aliens and their brain-waves beamed into my eyeballs…" - Nucf1ash
"Let's pause logic for a moment and say that altitude could make someone temporarily gay, that still doesn't excuse the conscious choice to have sex with someone and cheat on your partner, regardless of gender. If you can't help turning gay, you can still control where your d*ck does or doesn't go."
"He doesn't want to take responsibility for his actions because he would have to acknowledge that he cheated. Also, I think he's trying to rationalize this whole experience because he hasn't come to terms that he's either gay or bi."
"NTA." - False_Dimension9212
"Her boyfriend has been out there multiple times, and it's just this one time he got… altitude gayness? Or was this just his first opportunity to sleep with someone?" - kafquaff
"Even if it were possible, and it's not. He's telling you that he can't help but cheat on you because 'human actions are just a byproduct of accidental brain chemistry.'"
"Even if he's not into dudes anymore, there's plenty of girls he can cheat with because, by his own admission, he can't control himself when he's attracted to someone. NTA." - Catisbackthatsafact
"This is about as ridiculous as Elon's baby momma saying she became less gay after having kids. Orientation doesn't change like that."
"I get there is a spectrum for orientation, and people can be gay, bi, pan, etc, but it doesn't randomly go from straight to gay and back to straight due to an altitude change. Altitude can affect reproductive function, but not your orientation."
"OP, what he said, it's NOT true. Your boyfriend cheated and most likely is bi or has been living a closeted life. His explanation doesn't make what he did okay."
"Also, he goes to Utah regularly, so now every time he goes, you can expect him to become gay, unable to control himself and cheat? Then when he's home, will he become straight again? Sorry, it doesn't work that way."
"Either way, even IF his ridiculous argument was valid, it does not matter. He can control himself around other people and doesn't cheat when at home with women (well, maybe he does, and you just haven't found out). It's not like all of a sudden, being gay MADE him cheat. That was a conscious decision. He broke your trust and exposed you to possible STDs. Get tested and move on." - trvllvr
Others argued the boyfriend should be single while he figured out his orientation.
"'Human actions are just a byproduct of accidental brain chemistry'... In that case, the OP breaking up with him is just a byproduct of her brain chemistry, and there's nothing she can do about it, so he'll just need to suck it up." - Ravenser_Odd
"The veracity of his claims of temporary gayness isn't really the issue. The issue is that he thinks it is okay that he 'turned gay,' and he offered no plans to go to the doctor to treat this particular altitude sickness. He'll go back to Utah and sleep with that guy again because he 'can't help it.'"
"He doesn't want to help it. He wants to sleep with men. He will never stop sleeping with men. Leave now." - violetauto
"I bet he says the same thing when he travels anywhere without op. Oh, it's low elevation, the sunshine, the clouds, darkness, someone spoke Spanish, and he was shocked to find a c**k in his mouth."
"He's just bi or gay and isn't ready to face it and expects the OP to go along for the ride." - kradaan
"NTA. You can't possibly believe his craziness. Block him and move on. He's gay."
"He's trying to guilt you into staying with him because he's buried in the closet."
"I have met some people who will really come up with insane sh*t and try to act like you're the crazy one because you don't believe it. Lol (laughing out loud), I can see them trying to pull something like this." - Fredredphooey
"To be fair, he could be bi and trying to deny it to himself."
"Regardless, I think that she should move on from this confirmed cheater and potentially confused dude. Nothing good lies ahead for her while he figures it out." - ArcticPangolin3
After reading all of the comments, the OP knew what she needed to do.
"I don't know. I have read a lot of comments (almost all of them), and it turns out there is, in general, a consensus that this is not true."
"I knew it the entire time. In my head, I just let my heart give me doubts."
"I know I sound absurd in my post questioning if it was really possible. Yet, I couldn't bring myself to accept it. Now I do."
"I met my boyfriend just this afternoon. He acted like nothing was abnormal. I told him it was over."
"He acted like I thought he was joking. I said, come on, he cheated on me."
"He said he couldn't believe I was blaming him for it. 'It was the altitude!' He kept saying it. Seriously, he said it about 15 times in a row. 'It was the altitude! I said it was the altitude!' He was insistent."
"I told him it didn't matter if the altitude made him gay. He still had a choice to not cheat on me. He accused me of being a big*t!"
"I said, it's over. I left."
"He has texted me many times, claiming that he was only temporarily and unwillingly gay due to the altitude. He is sticking to this story to the end."
"Well, I am going to block him! And that's that."
The subReddit could not believe the story that the OP's ex-boyfriend tried to give her to justify his cheating on her during her work trip. It was clear that he needed to figure some things out about himself, and the OP did not have to stick around and get hurt while he sought answers.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.