One of the first really fun and important decisions a parent gets to make is the name they will give to their child.
But like most big decisions, there will be people who feel entitled to express their opinions on the matter, side-eyed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
While talking to a group of friends, Redditor PrincipleOdd6331 was interested to hear more about how one friend's pregnancy was going.
When they disclosed the name they had chosen for their baby, the Original Poster (OP) could not keep her opinion to herself.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for telling my friend that their baby's name sucks?"
The OP recently heard their friend's choice of baby name.
"Jordan (26 Nonbinary) and I (26 Female) do not mesh incredibly well together, but we are part of the same friend group and are cordial with each other."
"Note that Jordan is not their birth name. They changed their name in adulthood and picked a common unisex name. This is important to the story later."
"They are pregnant and just announced the baby's name to the group... It's Arsyn Europa."
"Everyone else told them it was a great name. I'm not sure how many genuinely thought so versus not wanting to rock the boat, but I came right out and said, 'Please don't give a human being that name, seriously.'"
The OP's comment was met with criticism.
"Holy s**t, of course, it blew up into a big thing."
"And for the record, if this kid had the same name but was already born, I would have just kept my mouth shut about it. I only said it because there's still time for them to change their mind."
"I said Arson is already such a stereotypical teenagery nonbinary name, and adding the weird spelling just makes it worse."
"I pointed out, 'You're naming an actual person and should not just treat them like an accessory for yourself, and it's weird to me that you picked a normal name for yourself and then went so out there for the name of the kid. It's just not a good name and I can't pretend otherwise, sorry.'"
The OP received serious pushback for this.
"Apparently, I don't know what the f**k I'm talking about and it's not my place to speak on such things."
"They said I went too far and attacked not just the name but their parenthood itself, and was way out of line."
"I agree that there was definitely a more 'Miss Manners' way of phrasing what I said, but I think it needed to be said... or at least, that I couldn't possibly have been expected to lie through my teeth that it was a good name."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some agreed with the OP and found her to be overwhelmingly NTA.
"NTA, that's a terrible name. I don't know where you live, but I've never heard of anyone named after an illegal act of setting things on fire. That's some real edge lord s**t." - NationalBanjo
"The inspector at our fire monitoring company has the first name Arsen. Kid you not! Poor guy gets laughed at all the time. NTA." - coolranchpuffs
"I once had a cashier at Home Depot… with the name of Larceny. Can you imagine the obstacles to getting employed with that name?!?"
"NTA, OP. If it were just another bad name, then you should keep your mouth shut. But we have a 'crimes and sex fetishes' exception for speaking up about potential baby names." - MinervasOwlAtDusk
"Not just the illegal act of setting things on fire. Europa is Latin for Europe. Apparently, Arson is a common Eastern European name."
"If they are more Western, Jordan is naming their child after the idea of setting a rather prominent content ON FIRE. Content names can work, but dear lord, this will make so many people wary of OP's kid and OP themselves." - LeadingJudgment2
"NTA because babies are not property, you can't just do whatever you want and claim to be above reproach because it's 'your decision.'"
"If you name your kid Arsyn, you're making a s**tty decision, and one that will actually negatively affect another human being."
"I think naming a baby is one of the first major tests of parenthood. Are you going to treat your child like a canvas that exists for you to express yourself, or are you going to think outside yourself and consider what your offspring might want?"
"Clearly, Jordan failed to consider that their child might not want an outlandish name, just like they didn't want one for themselves." - EstherandThyme
"I was named after a 'Lord of the Rings' character because my parents thought it would be a good idea to, as you said, turn their child into an outlet for their own self-expression."
"I legally changed my name to something mundane as soon as I became an adult."
"If you want to name a living being something goofy, get a dog or a cat, don't cause your child to endure years of teasing and bullying because you can't think past your own self-interest." - PrivetKalashnikov
"I hate the whole 'younique' baby name trend. Spelling a name weirdly doesn't make it cool or unique. And naming a kid ARSON is kind of ridiculous. That's a terrible name."
"You could have handled it differently, but at least you were honest." - OddNastySatisfaction
"Oh god, my English is probably bad, but Arsyn makes me think of purposefully putting something on fire, and combined with Europa, a continent, it sounds like, 'burn Europe.'"
"You're probably an AH for saying it. It is her choice and all. But... I'm not giving you the title since I moved to a part of my country where they speak French."
"My two boys have names that should be pronounced in Dutch and are written in it. We had been planning to travel all along but did not think about the names. Today I had to explain my son's name for probably the 500th time and I really wish someone had pointed it out..."
"Even though the names are completely 'normal,' we should have chosen a more international version, and my eight-year-old plans on changing how his name is written."
"With a name like Arsyn Europa, I wouldn't have been able to keep my mouth shut either, so I'm giving you an NTA. I've been blunt with friends in the past and they've either ignited my 'advise' or thanked me later..." - Petrake
"Your friend does realize that their child will never be able to write that on documents?"
"I can just imagine the parents calling for Arson Europa at an airport and absolute chaos breaking out. I definitely see them getting tackled by a bomb squad in the future."
"Also, you are absolutely right about why would they give themselves a normal name and then go and name their child Dumpster Fire."
"Selfish a** parents. NTA, OP." - unsolicitedPeanutG
Others pointed out that sometimes being an AH is justified.
"YTA, but sometimes you gotta be an a**hole because 'Arsyn Europa'? What the f**k?" - Middle_Advisor_5979
"Totally justified AH here... The parent being NB (Nonbinary) has absolutely zero to do with it. That's a terrible name, and someone has to stop them!"
"The word Ar*e is actually the first thing that jumped out at me... then I was like, 'Oh wait, it gets worse.'" - Whatshername_Stew
"No win situation. OP is TA for saying it but would also be TA for saying nothing because that is a terrible name." - d0k37
"I am sorry to say, but when I first read 'Arsyn,' I read it as 'a**e in.' This kid would be mocked so hard if there are any stupid people like me who would pronounce it that way, like, 'They have their a**e in Europa, hee hee hee heeeeee.'" - Its_Dot
"ESH. Yeah, you were an AH about it, and if you had to say anything you could have found a much better way to do it."
"But what kind of AH names their kid after a horrible crime? 'This is my daughter, Aggravated Assault Wilkins,' like, what the f**k?" - BigBigBigTree
"It is a truly horrible name to saddle a human being with."
"If you were asked what you thought of the name, you would not be TA."
"If you had rephrased what you said when offering your unsolicited opinion, you would not be TA."
"As it is, by what you described, you are mildly TA, simply for how you phrased your opinion."
"It never ceases to amaze me that anyone with a dissenting opinion is made to be the villain. They have 'attacked' the other person. They are designated someone who hates and/or is against [ fill in the group ], all because you didn't gush and smile over a name that is awful, terrible, and stupid." - CAShark-7
The subReddit was thoroughly upset on the future child's behalf and understood why the OP spoke up. While they could not agree on whether the OP made the right choice or not, they were certain the parent of the child certainly had not.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.