Coming out is a very sensitive and nuanced experience.
It takes a lot of courage to step into your authentic self.
And even in this day and age, with how far we've come, every reaction will vary.
Whether you're the person coming out or the person being told... there is no perfect way to do it.
Case in point...
Redditor uamConfused007 wanted to discuss their story for some feedback. So naturally they came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
They asked:
"AITA for not reacting right to a colleague telling me he is gay?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I feel like I could be in the wrong here, even if I don't understand why."
"To be honest, there have been incidents in the past where I have unwittingly been rude without intending to."
"And there are some social norms that escape my understanding."
"Which is why I would appreciate some impartial unbiased input and am posting here."
"One of my colleague's... H (technically I am his boss, not sure if that matters) came into my office today."
"I have an open door policy to encourage team members to come forward and share their ideas, so this was not that unusual."
"H came into my office and said 'I am gay.'"
"I thought there would he would be saying something else, so I waited for him to continue."
"After a moment I made a sound of assent to make it clear I heard him, but he still didn't say anything."
"Since he was staring at me, I assumed he was trying to convey something I wasn't understanding."
"Here's where I might have messed up."
"The first thing I said (my friend's specifically scolded me because this was the first thing I said) was to ask if he had had any insights in marketing to that demographic (we work in a marketing firm)."
"H said he hadn't."
"I asked him if he was getting married and needed time off (this too, I have been informed was an a**holish response)."
"H said he wasn't married."
"I finally said that if H had nothing else he wanted to discuss, he should leave as I had a meeting starting in a few minutes and needed the office."
"He left."
"Shortly afterwards a mutual friend scolded me and said I was a right a**hole for the way I responded to H."
"AITA for how I responded?"
"If so, could you please explain:"
"1) What I did wrong?"
"2) What should have been the right response?"
"3) How I can fix this?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA?:
- Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors declared our OP was NOT the A**hole.
It's a tricky situation.
Let's hear some thoughts...
"NTA. Isn't this sort of the long term goal for when someone comes out? For it not to be a thing and just business as usual?" ~ swagdaddio69
"It depends. Every person coming out has a different expectation."
"Many consider it a special moment which needs acknowledgement."
"Others need support. Others have different expectations."
"My own reaction tends to be minimalistic unless I suspect that I'm one of the first being told in which case I try to be ultrasupportive." ~ naraic
"Coming out sure. But... Walking into your boss's office and just... Announcing it?"
"That's just so strange to me."
"Honestly OP's reaction is... Hilariously accepting."
"Granted they need to follow up with the employee and figure out if there was an incident at work that prompted the outburst." ~ dezeiram
"I just have sympathy for both sides because I've been the only 'out' person in a very small town."
"Working with people who don't quite know how to navigate stuff like this in a professional environment."
"I don't think OP handled it great but as far as someone in a strictly professional environment having 'I am gay' just sprung on them."
"OP's response wasn't too bad." ~ dezeiram
"Maybe a more thorough boss would have gone down the train of thought OP almost had (are you getting married) and said, I appreciate you telling me."
"Please have a seat - is there something we need to discuss related to this?"
"Because if someone on my staff came in and said this with no other follow up I would assume I missed something that made this relevant."
"Harassment, bigotry, even just assumed sexuality (maybe I'd said something that implied he was straight and he just wanted to correct me to avoid awkwardness later 'guests are welcome to the bbq if you have a girlfriend you want to bring')." ~ OMVince
"I am 55 and just came out as Bisexual six months ago."
"I talked about it with my management and coworkers as many were also friends in social media and would see posts."
"I joined my companies LGBTQIA group."
"Beyond the one discussion I don't really talk about it."
"My team lead also knows about my depression and commented he was happy for me that I was going to be able to live a more authentic life."
"OP the way you can mend things is to invite the employee back to your office."
"When they arrive invite them to sit and just say you were sorry you were so pressed for time earlier and wanted to give their news a proper response."
"Thank them for trusting you with this information."
"Ask if they are letting everyone they work with know this information or is it being shared in confidence."
"Ask if there is anything they needed help with."
"It is possible they have a homophobic coworker and need to discuss stuff."
"Basically give them a moment of your time and let them know that this information doesn't change their worth." ~ markdmac
"Yeah, but the person coming out should manage their own expectations."
"As long as the other person was not negative, then OP isn't an AH for reacting the way he did."
"It's a business environment. I don't see how gender is any relevant at work." ~ dessertandcheese
"I can even understand the 'This is a big deal for me, can I get a little bit bigger reaction, please?!'"
"Feeling when coming out to family, but your boss?"
"NTA .I'm not a supervisor of anyone, but if I were, I would have no idea how to respond to an employee coming out to me with no other reason (i.e. reporting harassment)."
"Asking about marketing is a total foot in mouth moment, but that's what happens during those deer in the headlights moments." ~ JuliaX1984
"That is an absurd response."
"OPs response was perfect. 'Cool, and?'"
"Is literally the goal of acceptance." ~ Goofy264
"I agree, something like that would be the ideal response."
"I definitely don't blame OP for not coming up with that right on the spot. Definitely understandable, NAH."
"Following up could be a good thing to do, just to make it clear to H that there are no problems with the relationship."
"Something like 'I hope I didn't come off as uncaring the other day...' etc."
"Or, if it would feel easier for OP, they could also just make a point of being TOTALLY NORMAL and friendly in their interactions with H to show that nothing has changed." ~ sarita_sy07
"I probably would have said 'okay, and…?'"
"And maybe have eventually gotten around to 'has someone else made this a problem, because HR will have a word with them.'"
"But without context I would have been utterly nonplussed." ~ Junior_Ad_7613
"I never felt the need to "come out" in a professional setting."
"There was nothing to gain and everything to lose."
"Either people accept me and nothing changes or someone takes an issue and I have obstacles to hurdle."
"NTA the journey out of the closet can be rough but a non reaction is not inherently bad."
"Business as usual is how it should be." ~ GaymerGirl42014
"Not only that, but what did he expect from his boss at work?"
"I would've initially had the same reaction—sitting there waiting for him to get to the point—since it was so random and came out of nowhere."
"I sit there and try to figure out the reason any time someone makes a random statement." ~ ximxperfection
"NTA, it's kinda weird to just come into your boss's office and declare your sexuality for no reason(unless he's making an offer) so you being caught off-guard isn't being an AH." ~ _Sniffin_
"He probably just wanted validation, who knows who in his life he feels comfortable telling?"
"Sure, that's not a good way to go about it at all, but OP could have done more with their reaction instead of asking about marketing."
"I don't blame OP, but the way they went about responding was cold, regardless of how 'random' the occurance was."
"OP, I suggest you reach out and just email a half hearted 'I'm proud of you, good luck, let me know if anyone harasses you, blah blah.'"
"If you want to set professional boundaries, fine."
"But, without meaning to, and I DON'T BLAME YOU but it's what happened."
"You probably hurt his feelings and made such a big thing feel unimportant/only important if it can make the business more money." ~ sortaangrypeanut
"NTA. Your awkward response mimed his awkward comment."
"This may have been some revelation, or some deeply troubling secret he has held, so it was a big deal to him, but it's 2022, and people are gay. "
"It's nothing. You responded as such." ~ Therealuberw00t
It seems like both parties were a little vague in their communications.
But this feels like a situation that will work out peacefully..
Good Luck young man!















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.