When two people move in together and commit either to a long-term relationship or marriage, there's an assumption that they will share one bedroom and sleep together every night.
But there are benefits to sleeping separately, according to recent studies on sleep hygiene, and sleeping separately speaks much less to the quality of the relationship than people might think, pointed out the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor shesaysno_ had been with their future husband for two years, and while they were looking forward to getting married, they had some serious problems in the bedroom... with their sleep.
While they could only get a good night's sleep when they slept separately from their future husband, the Original Poster (OP) felt at a loss when their fiancé insisted on sleeping together, despite snoring loudly and thrashing around in the bed.
They asked the sub:
"Am I overreacting by telling my fiancé to stop giving me a hard time about us not sleeping together?"
The OP and their fiancé had very different sleeping habits.
"My fiancé and I have been together for two years."
"At the start of our relationship, I quickly realized we do not have compatible sleep patterns at all."
"I am the kind of person who sleeps and wakes at the exact same time every day and NEEDS to do so to feel regulated."
"He can stay up until 3:00 AM, wake up at 7:00 AM, and go about his day and feel totally fine."
The OP's partner also made it impossible for the OP to sleep.
"In addition to this, he is the worst person to sleep next to that I've ever met."
"He literally thrashes around the bed, kicks me, screams at the top of his lungs in his sleep (in multiple languages at that), snores like a truck, and will lie his 6'2" body on TOP of my 5'1" body."
"When we first started dating, and he'd come over, I would pretty much always have to leave my bed in the middle of the night because it's unbearable, and I'd get no rest. I'd end up in my spare bedroom, where I don't like sleeping, and I'd wake up, and he'd be 'sad' that I left but said he understood."
"Eventually, we agreed that it is not fair to me that I be forced to leave my own bed every night, so we just started going to sleep in the different rooms with him in my spare bedroom."
"He later moved into my house, and we just kept this arrangement."
But the OP's fiancé wasn't okay with their sleeping arrangement anymore.
"Lately, he has been getting increasingly emotional about not being able to sleep in the same bed as me, to the point where he's spending hours per night pouting about it before we go to sleep."
"He used to just go, 'Awwww, I'm sad, I'm gonna miss you!' but would kiss me goodnight, and that was that. Now he's acting like a wounded puppy about it, leading me to need to console him and promise him we will 'find a solution someday.'"
"Tonight he got into my bed and just said, 'I'm sleeping here.' I came into the room and said, 'Please don't kick me out of my own bed tonight,' because if he sleeps in my bed, I can't! This triggered him to storm off and complain that it's 'not fair.'"
"I ended up just yelling out of the room that I don't know what he wants from me or what I'm supposed to do. I said, 'Do you just want me to never sleep again?' and he said nothing and just went into the other room."
The OP was incredibly frustrated by the situation.
"I understand that he misses the intimacy of sleeping next to me, but I can NOT do it."
"I have a chronic illness and am currently trying to work on my mental health. I NEED to sleep. I am the opposite of the kind of person who can get s**tty sleep and just power through; I will literally collapse."
"My mental and physical health suffer when I don't get to sleep, and I already have trouble with it on my own because of my health issues."
"And I simply can't sleep next to him because I'm the world's lightest sleeper, and I can't deal with the snoring, kicking, flailing, and yelling."
"Every time I've tried to sleep next to him, I feel like I'm going insane all night. I have ended up so exhausted that I've fallen asleep sitting up trying to work the next day."
"But I also can't handle the emotional labor of having to console him because he can't be in my bed."
"Also, I want to add that this has nothing to do with sex. He doesn't want me to be in the same bed as him for sex. Our sex life is outstanding, and this has never been his complaint. He only complains that he doesn't get the 'intimacy' of sleeping next to me every night."
"AIO?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NOR: Not Overreacting
- YOR: You're Overreacting
Some sided with the OP and didn't understand why their future husband was acting like this.
"NOR. Why are people like this about stuff? I had a boyfriend who snored like the bejeezus but would not do a sleep study and then acted sad when I wouldn't sleep in his bed. It's literally torture. I don't get it and never will." - Active-Designer934
"NOR. He's refusing to accept that his sleeping the night with you means NO SLEEP for you."
"It's harmful and incredibly selfish. My ex-husband used to do something similar. Please get this figured out before you marry him, and don't marry him if he won't work on it. You may love him, but you need to love your health, too." - flamboyantsensitive
"NOR. The onus is on HIM to fix the problem, not you! He is the one with the issues with sleeping that disturb your sleep quality, so what is he doing to find a solution?"
"If the answer is nothing, then he has no one to blame but himself, and trying to put the guilt on you is such bulls**t behavior."
"If he wants to sleep in the same bed, he needs to proactively be looking for solutions." - EJK_PlantsAreFriends
"NOR. It's plain and simple. Interrupting someone's sleep on a regular basis is torture. Have you tried having him put an app like Shuteye on his phone? It records audio while someone is asleep and then gives 'highlight' recordings."
"I used to be a thrasher and sleep talker, but I grew out of it. It was so bad that I'd end up lying sideways across the pillows and screaming at my brothers so loud that my parents could hear me at the opposite end of a 70-foot mobile home."
"I wish I knew what changed to cause me to stop, but at least I can offer hope that it can change."
"There's a chance that he doesn't actually realize how bad it is, or believe that it's happening, so maybe he needs proof."
"As others have mentioned, especially since you mentioned snoring also, a sleep study is definitely a good idea."
"The point is: it's not that you don't WANT to share a bed with him... It's not possible unless he finds out the root causes and tries to do something about it." - socialcluelessness
"NOR. You just described my husband's and my sleeping habits, as well, except I am the loud, snoring, and thrashing one, and I can sleep for only three hours. We sleep in separate bedrooms, and it has improved our marriage considerably."
"The difference is that I did a sleep study and got a CPAP machine, and my husband and I agreed it's still better to sleep apart with occasional slumber parties and, of course, fun time, and that's been GREAT for us." - eelorad73
Others encouraged the OP and their partner to do a sleep study before getting married.
"I have two words: Sleep Study."
"It saved my best friend's marriage. They had already started couples counseling, and their therapist recommended it. They both say they are 100 percent happier." - Nana-in-OC-7113
"NOR. The onus is on him to correct the problem. If he wants to sleep with you non-sexually, he needs to see a doctor and pursue at least one sleep study."
"I'd make that a requirement before even having your bachelor/bachelorette parties, let alone before you get married." - No_Nefariousness4801
"NOR NOR NOR."
"Like, literally, what is OP supposed to do to fix the problems he has?"
"The thrashing and screaming sounds like he has intrusive alpha waves, which may or may not be due to the fact that his brain is being regularly deprived of oxygen."
"Hey may also have a milder form of somnambulance."
"Literally, there's nothing she's going to be able to do to fix that. And it's TOTALLY fair that she can't sleep in the same room while that's happening. Her health matters, too, and it WILL BE affected if her sleep is messed up long-term."
"And if he's dead set on making her find the solution? OP cannot be expected to lose what of her health she has left to make him happy. Because at that point, he won't be happy until she is actually dead."
"Right now, he genuinely thinks she's overblowing the situation because he doesn't like it, and that's a red flag on its own." - CasaDeMouse
"NOR, and same, OP. I constantly told my husband his snoring and constant gasping were ruining my sleep. He downplayed it forever."
"I finally recorded it one night and played it for him the next day. To his credit, he booked the sleep study that day after hearing how HORRIBLE it was."
"He was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea and now uses a CPAP nightly. I tell him often that it literally saved our relationship." - Suspicious-Table512
"NOR. And instead of being an actual adult taking rational steps to solve or address the issues, he has CHOSEN to bully OP about it and coerce her into compromising her sleep and thus her health."
"OP, please research manipulative abuse and coercive control."
"Bottom line: he has multiple health conditions that disrupt and disturb your sleep."
"He knows how sick it could make you, and he's CHOOSING to bully you instead of going to a doctor?"
"Does that sound like someone who loves values and appreciates you?" - No_Appointment_7232
As much as the subReddit could understand a couple wanting to sleep in the same bed, sometimes it's more important to sleep well than to snuggle up and sleep together every night.
But if the OP's partner really disagreed with that and wanted to sleep together every night, he needed to see a doctor and get a sleep study done, so his health could improve and the OP could sleep in the same room without jeopardizing theirs.















Woman With Cerebral Palsy Livid After Husband's Doctor Questions Why He Married Her
In the search for comprehensive medical care, people may have tough conversations about their lifestyle, work, relationships, and other potential stressors.
But a doctor can only make so many decisions on behalf of their patient, cautioned the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor _lucky96 was seeing the same doctor as her husband, so their doctor was aware of both of their medical histories and needs, including her having cerebral palsy.
But when the doctor brought up her condition during her husband's latest appointment and questioned their marriage, the Original Poster (OP) was appalled and wanted to find a new medical care provider.
She asked the sub:
The OP had cerebral palsy and a full life.
"I have cerebral palsy. It mainly affects my walking, but I can walk independently and live a pretty normal life."
"My husband and I have been together for three years and have a blended family with five kids altogether. Three of my kids aren’t biologically his."
The OP and her husband just started seeing a new doctor.
"We’ve both recently started seeing the same general practitioner (GP)." I’ve seen him about three times now and generally thought he was helpful."
"I had noticed he seemed very interested in my disability and would often ask questions about it and whether I had support, but I assumed he was just being thorough."
In the OP's eyes, the doctor crossed a line.
"Today, my husband had an appointment with the same doctor for stomach issues."
"During the appointment, mental health apparently came up as part of the discussion, but the appointment itself wasn’t for mental health."
"I wasn’t in the room because I was outside with our daughter. According to my husband, the doctor asked him, 'Why did you marry your wife?'"
"My husband said because he loves me, and then the doctor apparently said something along the lines of, 'With her disability and five kids, that’s a lot to take on. You realise when she’s older, you’ll have a lot to do as she ages.'"
"My husband thinks I’m overreacting because they had been discussing different stressors in his life, and believes the doctor was just talking about responsibilities and support systems."
"I understand that possibility, but I can’t get past how hurtful it feels to hear my disability described as something my husband 'took on' or as a future burden he’ll have to manage."
"The doctor also said, 'Not many men would do what you do, you’re a good man.'"
The OP was upset about the conversation her husband shared.
"What bothers me most is that the conversation wasn’t even about me, and I wasn’t there to respond or provide any context."
"I feel like the comments reduced me to my disability rather than seeing me as a wife, parent, and person."
"Am I wrong for being upset by this and considering raising it with the clinic, or does this sound inappropriate?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that the doctor's comments were highly inappropriate.
"That’s highly inappropriate. You are NOR." - Direction_Physical
"NOR. You are not overreacting at all. That was completely inappropriate and dehumanizing."
"You’re his patient’s wife, not his patient, while your husband is in that room. Bringing up your disability and five kids during your husband’s stomach appointment had nothing to do with his care."
"Saying you’re 'a lot to take on' and 'not many men would do what you do' frames your marriage like a charity case, and you like a burden instead of a partner."
"That’s ableist, unprofessional, and a violation of basic boundaries."
"It makes sense that you feel reduced to just your disability after hearing that."
"Raising it with the clinic is absolutely reasonable. You deserve a doctor who treats you as a whole person, not a problem for your husband to manage." - DaringDuvet
"This makes me so stabby. I’m non-verbal and have right-sided weakness."
"We were married 29 years before it happened, and the number of people who think my husband needs a medal and a parade for sticking around..."
"Don’t get me wrong. My husband is one of life’s truly good dudes. But seriously?" - sorenelf
"This is infuriating. He's a good man because he didn't ditch?"
"When my mum was diagnosed with cancer that wasn’t going to do the polite thing and get fixed, the amount of applause for my dad not leaving her was astounding."
"He was horrified at first, but that wore off pretty quickly, and he just started calling it out. That made quite a few people squirm in their own discomfort."
"It says a lot about someone who thinks a natural choice is to bail." - BasicLingonberry9914
"NOR in the slightest."
"Even if we assume good intent and the doctor wanted to make sure there are safety nets and supports in place for both of you, that has NOTHING to do with the question of why your husband married you."
"I would absolutely file a complaint, and if you both can, find another general practitioner." - ooooohcakepudding
"NOR. I have severe Aphakia, and if my specialist looked at my husband to remind him he's going to be growing old with someone who is likely going to go blind, I think I would die."
"My husband had been through h**l and back with me and my eyes long before we got married, so he knows what he signed up for. And it isn't the doc's place to sort out. Super duper unprofessional." - Global-Nature2420
"So at first, I thought you were overreacting. I am a mental health provider, and a doctor discussing stressors and very real-life situations happens all the time."
"The minute you added the part that 'not many men,' things changed. He took what could have been a normal conversation and changed it to his personal feelings, which is absolutely disgusting."
"NOR at all. I would file a complaint." - Trash_Human92
Others pointed out that it was an important conversation to have, though the doctor could have been more delicate.
"While tough, this isn't an inappropriate conversation to have if the stress is causing his health to deteriorate."
"The truth is not inappropriate. I think the way he worded it was a bit much, but not what he said."
"It appears to me the OP is not dealing with how her disability is not just about her, but everyone, etc. For example, my cancer was also stressing my loved ones out." - Total-Ad886f
"I was having panic attacks in the middle of the night due to my husband's health and lack of care. So when he finally started seeing someone in my same doctor's office (but not the same doctor), it was SO much better."
"My doc and the nurse have been really, really concerned about my mental health, so they were happy to hear that he's taking his health seriously and improving, because that means that I am sleeping more and my mental health is better, and that means my ability to manage my own chronic pain and health issues has been better."
"I was not coping at all and barely able to function." - popchex
"The doctor may have mentioned OP in the conversation with her husband if he was trying to ascertain if he had stressors that may contribute to his stomach issues. Sure, your spouse, children, work, and parents can be considered stressors at times in anyone’s life."
"For me, where he crossed the line was when he decided just how OP’s condition will impact the future."
"Firstly, OP is obviously capable of caring for everyone, including herself and children, with minimal, if any, assistance. As OP ages, more assistance may be required, but this may also be the case for her husband, too, as he ages. The responsibility of the children will not be a factor, as they are adults."
"So the doctor’s predictions are presumptive and unnecessary. Health is not guaranteed for anyone. We all will face various challenges to our physical abilities as we age."
"What I would take up with the clinic is why he felt it necessary to ask the husband why he married OP. To additionally state because of that, ‘He was a good man’ is grossly inappropriate and unprofessional."
"There is potential for an ongoing issue to arise if OP were to continue seeing this doctor. His bias toward her husband may very well influence any care she may need in the future. NOR." - Cool-Blackberry-785
"It doesn’t make sense because if your husband was talking about how stressed he was, why would the doctor bring up more reasons he should be stressed? Or if he didn’t seem stressed enough, is the doctor then going to be like, 'Consider how stressed you’ll be in X amount of years'?"
"It sort of sounds like he’s saying something like, 'Why would a man do that?'"
"The only exception I’d give is if your husband had some sort of health thing he’s completely ignoring, and the doctor was trying to give him a wake-up moment. Because then, they sort of have to be blunt to make you realize you need to prioritize your health. But simply being stressed isn’t enough to start saying, 'Why did you marry your wife?'"
"Whenever it’s women in your husband’s position, they just get told they’re an awesome rockstar. No one questions WHY they do it."
"NOR. You should find a doctor who makes you feel supported, and you feel is better overall."
"I wouldn’t make your husband change yet. It is hard to find doctors you like. Maybe when you establish with a better doctor, he’ll switch, too." - imwearingredsocks
Since the OP's husband went to the doctor to discuss stomach issues and likely how to remedy them, it's reasonable that the subject of possible stressors would come up, so the husband could avoid those stressors and improve his symptoms.
However, some Redditors felt that also including details about his marriage and fatherhood in the conversation was crossing a line, and while being a care provider to a spouse could be stressful, many felt it was being addressed from an ableist perspective instead.