Spending time with your friends is important and can be difficult to arrange. With that in mind, that time should be respected.
But what qualifies as disrespect among friends? Bringing your girlfriend to your guys' night out or no longer inviting your friend who does?
This is the question brought to the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit by five friends from a group of six, the sixth friend being the one keeps showing up with a plus-one.
The five guys, represented as OP (Original Poster) "MK6804," asked the thread:
"AITA (Am I the A**hole?). Friend keeps bringing his GF every time we have a get-together, so we stopped inviting him."
According to the writers, the group shares a lot of history.
"Our friend group is made up of 6 people, Me([Male]33), A([Male]4), J([Male]35), K([Male]33), E([Male]34) and V([Male]35)."
"Now we met each other during a work event and connected instantly and each of us has a SO (significant other)."
"Now with V, he has been with his GF (girlfriend) for 3 years, and we have been friends since uni and ever since then, we have a 'guys-night' once every 3 months so that 4 times a year."
Recently, their sixth friend started bringing a plus-one.
"Every time we get together V keeps bringing his Gf and it just became awkward. She would follow him everywhere, she even tried to follow him into the men's toilet."
"We are unable to go to restaurants because she keeps causing drama. An example of this is when V left his phone on a table at a restaurant, the waiter tapped V on the shoulder and returned the phone, V thanked her, His GF poured water on a waiter and accused her of hitting on V. The manager banned her. That is just one of the times she acted out."
The rest of the group has had enough of the antics at this point.
"Me, M, A, J and K had enough, we held an intervention, asked him why he keeps bring her and that we had enough. He wasn't able to give us a proper answer, said that she keeps inviting herself to these events."
"Soon she was invited into our group chats and our annual camping trip."
"Now because Melbourne is in lockdown, we had a few online movie sessions, and she would show up and complain about the choice of movie."
"Now we had enough, every time she shows up, there is an issue, the choice of movie or the type of food served, the weather."
They tried to talk to their friend about it but had to make a decision amongst themselves.
"Now Me, M, A, J and K told V to grow a pair and tell her enough is enough, he refused to do so, said this is him proving his love for her."
"So Me, M, A, J and K decided that until he had a proper sit-down and talk things through with her, we would not invite him to any of our events, he and his Gf called us Assholes, while our SO also agree with them."
Fellow Redditors wrote in anonymously, rating the decision to leave their friend out of future gatherings on the following scale:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
One Redditor pointed out that no one is required to invite anyone else, especially if they're ignoring group rules.
"NTA."
"I mean you guys are entitled to a guys night without being pestered by this GF."
"If the dude won't stop bringing her, because she is a super jealous type, and/or controlling, you are well within your rights to say 'you're out until you figure this out'." - kiraIsuAlivr
Others read a lot of red flags into the girlfriend's behavior, some to the point that they encouraged the group to reconsider inviting their friend.
"I was hoping I'd see someone pointing out the abuse in the comments already. I think the best method would be to tell him that he alone is invited, if he insists on bringing her, neither is invited, but that you're there for him whenever, and let him know that having to prove his love is unhealthy and unsustainable."
"When exactly has she proven her love to him? Was that when she was showing she'd assault anyone that dares to look at him (pouring water on a server) or when she isolated him from all of his friends?" - idplmal
"Exactly, the last thing I would do is stop inviting him, doing so allows her to win by cutting him off from friends and makes him more isolated."
"The one thing he needs is friends to stand by him!"
"I was in a relationship like this and the friends who cut me off I have kept cut off, now that I have left and they want back in my life. The 2 friends who were there through thick and thin remain in my life and I am so thankful to them! So so thankful!" - Exceptionallymylife
"Came here to say this, glad it's been said. As long as she and he frame the situation as him accepting her abusive behavior as a requirement for love, he'll continue to suffer her abuse."
"You need to make clear to him that he is being abused by her. And her behavior is abusive. Accepting her abuse isn't love, it's victimization. He's going down a dark path and he needs to stand up for himself."
"Telling him to 'grow a pair' isn't helpful because it plays into hurtful gender stereotypes like as a man he's supposed to dominate her. It's not that. It's that as a human being, he deserves to be treated in a non-abusive manner."
"He deserves to have a supportive, nurturing significant other, not a manipulative, abusive, toxic, cruel, bullying, controlling significant other." - bettinafairchild
A possibly abusive relationship situation aside, a few could not resist pointing out what a drag it must be to spend time with this particular girlfriend.
"At the point where she poured water of the poor waiter, this isn't even a thing about guys-night anymore - that's just a terrible person whom I would want nothing to do with." - Mesapholis
"I always find you can tell so much about a person with how they treat people in a customer service job (barista, clothing store worker, waiter etc) and if they treat them like shit and look down on them for no reason then I want nothing to do with being friends with people like that let alone dating someone like that." - crazymommaof2
"Exactly. This had nothing to do with guys night. She is absolutely insufferable. They can't go out to eat? I mean c'mon..." - BasicDesignAdvice
It's hard when a friend becomes flakey or starts doing something they didn't use to do, like bringing a plus-one to an otherwise intimate event among close friends.
Whatever these friends decide to do, the Redditors may be on to something: They certainly aren't required to keep inviting their friend, but it may be good for their friend's mental health if they do.















Woman Breaks Up With 'Clingy' Boyfriend For Making Joke About 'Getting With' Her Sister
As much as we might want to date someone, there's no point in trying to gain the attention and affection of someone who does not want to reciprocate.
Dating someone "similar" to fill that void isn't a good look, either, cringed the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Flashy-External1666 had been long-distance dating a guy from her friend group for about a month, even though he'd expressed his attraction to her older sister repeatedly before they started dating.
When her sister entered a new relationship, the Original Poster (OP) was hurt and disgusted that her boyfriend insinuated that he could have been trying to "get with" her sister while he was instead busy dating her.
She asked the sub:
The OP was aware that her boyfriend had his eye on someone close to her before dating her.
"I (19 Female) am with M (21 Male), and we've been together for a month. We were friends before this, for a while."
"For some background, when we were in a friend group, he'd always talk about how my sister (23 Female) was super hot and how he wanted her, but she was in a relationship at the time."
When he found out that her sister had been in-between relationships, he had an unsavory reaction.
"Earlier today, I mentioned to him how my sister started seeing this new guy, and I was super proud of her, because she went through a lot with her last relationship."
"His immediate reply was, 'Dang,' one month too late' with a sad emoji, insinuating that he was one month too late to get with her, because we've been together for a month."
You can see the text message exchange here:
The OP was immediately turned off by the idea of dating him.
"After I got upset and he apologized, he immediately sent me a reel that said, 'When she's already upset about me, but I have a second joke in mind.'"
"I feel like he genuinely doesn't care about me."
"He has also gotten weirdly clingy within the month, like red-flag clingy."
"He keeps trying to say how he loves me, wants to marry me, and wants me to go live with him. But he also always brings up my exes and gets super jealous when HE mentions them."
"I don't know what to do. Should I block him??"
"He's mentioned before that I would need to block him on everything if we ever broke up because he'd never leave me alone (we are currently long-distance)."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some were grossed out by the boyfriend's text message and understood why the OP was upset.
"The fact that he wrote all that out and even added a little emoji at the end and still decided to send it, knowing it would be hurtful for you."
"Seems like he’s texted that to see if he could get away with it. Either way, you don’t say something like that to someone you care about…" - Oven_Traditional
"NOR. Ew! That’s so disrespectful coming from someone who should be thrilled to have you."
"I’m team 'dump him.' If he has a brother, maybe ask for his brother’s number as you end it just to see how he likes it." - Entire-Tonight-1463
"NOR. He's not joking about your sister. Based on what he's said about her in the past, it would have been a wise move to NOT date him at all. PERIOD."
'There's a possibility that he's clingy/close to you for the purpose of indirectly keeping an eye on your sister. Release him and let him go, thereby setting yourself free from foolishness." - AtlJazzy2024
"He’s not for you… Break up with him and block him. You deserve a guy who treasures YOU!" - Muted-Lynx-8745
"He might be your boyfriend, but you're not his girlfriend. In his mind, your sister is." - Save-your-spoons
Others urged the OP to block her boyfriend and move on.
"Girl, it's been a month. Let that loser go." - sleepymelfho
"He kept OP as a backup, while circling her sister's orbit. What has happened to transparency and honesty in relationships? All I read now is obnoxious men doing obnoxious things to their partners."
"OP, he's keeping you around to stay close to your sister. You deserve better... NOR." - ColdHandGee
"NOR. You know that he's not joking about wanting your sister. He told on himself before you even got together, talking about how hot she was. Believe him."
"Break up with him and cut him off immediately. I can't believe you ever agreed to date him in the first place. I'd never want to date someone who had the hots for someone else in my immediate circle, whether that was a sibling or a friend." - Lanky_Mud_8148
"You’ve been dating one month, and that’s one month too long."
"He’s not joking about your sister. He fancies her more than you, and you’re the consolation prize. He will pursue her given the chance."
"Time to dump him." - Special_Wind_6708
"NOR. He can't have your sister, so you're just the next best thing. Him being a clingy weirdo that 'will never leave you alone' is the cherry on top."
"You know what to do. Dump him and block him on everything. If anyone from the friend group asks, just tell them what you told us. And you REALLY should warn your sister; you have receipts." - sdoM-bmuD
"Ditch him. Honestly. What are you waiting for?" - forget_me_not_uwu
"NOR at all. Cut this loser out of all channels of your life."
"I wouldn’t block, though. Just ghost so that he can watch you become happier without him as the ultimate revenge because I’m petty like that, and he clearly deserves it."
"ALSO, if he's as creepy and clingy as he sounds, you can have him muted, so he can see your activity, but you won't have to see his... But you'd have all of his messages as receipts if he ever became threatening or stalkerish for police purposes."
"For more context: My mum started dating my dad (when she was 19, too), who initially tried to go for her older sister (two years older) and got rejected."
"After three years of dating, seven years of engagement, and 20 years of marriage where she put up with an incompetent man-child that wouldn’t do anything for himself and expected her to completely cater to him while he berated her and treated her like s**t..."
"...it ended in him cheating on her with a waitress for over a year and denying it until my mum had literal photographic evidence, to which he had the audacity to respond with the reasoning that she was the reason he was 'driven to cheat' (as if that was even remotely close to the truth and the only option to solve his ‘problems’)."
"Save yourself, girl. This man-child can learn to pine over you and your sister from afar as you both skip into the sunset together, moving on with your lives and into better relationships that fulfill you the way you deserve!" - peachycritter
Some cautioned the OP to also cover her tracks after the breakup, as he sounded worse than "clingy" to them.
"The actual scary part isn't even the sister joke; it's, 'he said he'd never leave me alone if we broke up,' only one month in."
"That line gave me chills, and that alone would have me Googling how to block someone on every platform that exists." - babydoodle91
"Ew. These super clingy guys right out the gate are scary. Please watch your step, and erase your tracks." - Immabirb
"He sounds like a stalker... Drop him now, fast. And block him everywhere." - Admirable_Program720
"NOR, yes, you block him, and you keep him out of your life, and you tell mutual friends that if they try to facilitate contact between you two, you will block them as well. He isn't joking." - JustAsICanBeSoCruel
"I watch way too much crime for this!"
"Girl, block him. Also tell your sister to block him, too; he’s obsessed with her." - MrsRoronoaZoro
"NOR. You're underreacting, honestly."
"He wants your sister, but you're close enough. He's obsessed with her and won't give it up even though he has someone he 'wants to marry.'"
"Also, he's not lying. He probably will stalk you online afterwards; please be careful." - Phoenix-Phire-38
"NOR at all. Your post kept adding on more red flags with each additional sentence. I know you’re young, but he’s toxic, and yes, you will need to block him."
"Breaking up with someone you have strong feelings for is really difficult, so when you leave, you should make sure to lean on friends and family and keep yourself distracted with things you like and find engaging." - query_tech_sec
"The s**t with your sister is nothing compared to the love-bombing and jealousy. This guy is trouble, and scary, and you will have done the right thing when you leave him and maintain the distance between the two of you. NOR." - potatomeeple
After receiving feedback, the OP posted an update, but it seemed to be only the beginning.
"Thank you for making me feel less crazy."
"I blocked him on everything and deactivated my Instagram."
"He DM'ed a girl that I had posted ONCE on my Instagram Stories, asking about me."
"I'm not sure if he's going to keep trying to talk to me, but I hope not."
The subReddit's internal alarm bells were ringing while reading the OP's post, and they hoped that she'd leave her boyfriend in every sense of the word. They already lived long-distance, but she needed to cut him off in every other sense.
Not only was it obvious that he wanted someone else and was with the OP to "make up for it," but his "promises" of not leaving her alone if she ever broke up with him were love-bombing and stalker-like, at best.