We've all had responsibilities that, while they were an obligation, we really enjoyed doing them.
To have them suddenly taken away from us, because of being fired or other changes to the plan, can really hurt, agreed the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITA) subReddit.
The Redditor, who has since deleted her account, was shocked when the family she was being a nanny for, fired her after discovering she was a Lesbian.
Because it happened so suddenly, the Original Poster (OP) longed for closure with the girl she'd been a nanny for.
She asked the sub:
"AITA for saying my last goodbyes to a kid I used to nanny for?"
The OP enjoyed being a nanny.
"I (28 Female) have been the nanny to this sweet, little kid Franny (8) for the past three years."
"She's honestly such an angel, and I was super lucky to get to take care of her since we got along well and she never really started any trouble."
"It was also nice since they live in the same apartment complex as me."
Then the arrangement suddenly ended.
"Anyways, I recently just started dating again for the first time since then due to a rough breakup."
"I ran into Fran's parents while out on a date with my girlfriend who made it pretty clear they were uncomfortable that I was gay."
"Literally that night, I got a sudden text message from them, saying they found a new nanny that worked better for their needs and that I wouldn't be welcome in their home again and not to contact them."
The OP needed closure.
"I'm still p**sed off because we got along all fine until they realized I was a lesbian."
"Anyways, I went the next morning to question them in person since they live a floor up from me and saw they had gotten the neighbor to babysit who recognized me and invited me in."
"I didn't go in, because her parents were normally home during this time so I expected to talk to them instead)."
"Fran saw me (from outside the door), so I kinda loosely said I wouldn't be seeing her for a while but I cared for her very much."
"I felt that I couldn't just abandon this kid who I've been watching for years now without a reason."
The parents lashed out at the OP.
"Anyways, her parents ended up banging on my door today and yelling at me, saying I went behind their back to manipulate their kid."
"I just wanted to hear what people say because I guess I could've emailed or called first, asking to see Franny one last time to clear things up but went over in person instead."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some took issue with the OP essentially trespassing.
"YTA. Regardless of the reasoning if the parents say you're fired, then you don't get to just show back up at the house and speak to their child. That could get you in trouble big time, especially considering they weren't present." - DismallDally
"YTA. You DO NOT just show up to someone's home uninvited! PERIOD! Yeah, the situation sucks. It is what it is."
"You overstepped. My petty a** would reach out to every future couple and let them know. You NEVER interfere like that. Of course you'd run into the child, it's her d**n house. What the h**l?!" - ChillChic74
"YTA. You have no right to see the child, no matter the circumstances. You are not their parent, and as far as they are concerned, an aggressor." - Citizen-1
"YTA. If they want to be jerks, that's their prerogative and their child."
"You don't have a right to go to someone else's house if they asked you not to, considering the child wasn't in any danger."
"It would have been totally different if you were passing in the hall and their door was open and she saw you, but that's not what happened." - ImAScientistToo
"YTA."
"There is a different angle to this than your orientation. You said, 'I got a sudden text message saying... that I wouldn't be welcome in their home again and not to contact them,' followed by, 'I went the next morning to question them in person.'"
"They gave you direct instructions to not come to their home and to not contact them. When a minor child is included in a family that tells someone something like that, instructions like that include the minor child."
"At that point, not only did you lose any privilege to go there or speak to any of them ever again, but by doing so, you encroached into territory that can legally border on things like harassment and stalking."
"It doesn't matter how unkind or intolerant their decision was. You have been told, in a fashion that is recorded, and you have acknowledged by writing here that you received it, to stay away and make no contact."
"You're the a**hole for going there and for making contact with the kid."
"If you do it again, or anything like what you did, you may find yourself subject to a protective order or charged with a crime or two."
"Stay away from families who don't want you near their family, and don't communicate with people who don't want to you to communicate with them or their families." - uniptf
Others thought the OP was in the right because of her paycheck.
"NTA. Some of the ESH or YTA comments might have a point if this wasn't the case, even if the parents are disgusting bigots anyways."
"But if my employer fires me and tells me to stay away (even if the termination is legal) and then 'forgets' to pay what he owes me, you can bet your a** I'll stand on his doorstep the day after my pay is due."
"If you don't want to see me again, pay your debts, and I'll be out of your life. And if my former colleagues who I like (or in this case, that kid) see me while I get my pay, I promise I won't treat them as if they're thin air. Especially if I show up at a time when I expect to see you and not to see those colleagues (or kids)."
"But of course, I don't live in a country where I might get shot for getting the money I'm owed." - Jagstang1994
"NTA. The people here saying YTA are giving sooo much authority to them, telling you to not contact them again, like they're still your employers or something."
"Knock on their door every day until you get your paycheck if you want. You owe them nothing, certainly not respect." - Havaxx
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Some empathized with the OP's need for closure with little Fran.
"SHE WANTED CLOSURE. It means that she wanted to be sure in person that they were a**holes. It's her right to want it in person. She thought they were her friends, she was hurt." - Haru70
"They asked her not to show up. She knew they were mad. She knew they said don't come around."
"If her check is all she cared about like she claimed, she can text or call. She's been lying from the start the part about going to just talk about the check. They can lie all they want in person without remorse. They're bigots and it's honestly to be expected."
"She's NTA for wanting to say goodbye to a child she loves. She is for lying to herself and saying she went to talk about the check." - Sawse-Bawse
"NTA. You went to talk to the PARENTS who you didn't know weren't gonna be there. Fran saw you before you walked away, and what do people expect you to do, ignore a kid you nannied for years?" - brittanybookworm
"As a nanny, I was heartbroken over this story. You get attached to the kids you watch, and it was VERY cruel that the parents were homophobes who wouldn't (AND I AGREE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PERMITTED IT) let their child say goodbye."
"Because kids get attached, TOO. Those parents were the AH for sure, just for the homophobia alone. NTA." - Jedisilk015
"I don't think the parents would have let you say a last goodbye, and I think that is exceedingly sad."
"I am an older lady and some neighbors who were nice to me, say 60 years ago, I still appreciate and think about occasionally. Kids do deserve closure and answers. The other neighbor invited you in and you said goodbye."
"Personally, I would say NTA."
"And after seeing your update, they can't even pay someone? H**l NO! They have safe, quality care for their child and want to throw change at someone? I am both glad your lease is up, SAD for their child, and wishing Karma shows herself to them in the way they richly deserve." - WishIWasHome
After receiving feedback, the OP shared an update.
"Well, things escalated quickly. I sent them a final email, asking for my final paycheck and apologizing for showing up at their door."
"Not sure who but someone chucked a couple of dollars worth of spare change at my door."
"Thank god my lease is coming up, because I guess it's time to start apartment hunting."
"Hopefully Fran is all good."
Everyone could agree that this situation was terrible, but they were deeply divided on how the OP had handled the situation.
Because she was expressly told not to contact the family again, she absolutely should not have shown up at their door, no matter what her reason was for being there, according to some Redditors.
But other Redditors disagreed and said wanting that last paycheck was reason enough to keep contacting the family until they paid her, and wanting to say goodbye to Fran, who she'd been a nanny to for years, was a perfectly human desire for closure.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.