Content Warning: Coming Out, Breakup, Mentions of Homophobia
Now that Pride Month is here, more people will feel supported to share their coming-out stories.
But a lot of coming out journeys are messy, and feelings can get hurt along the way, reasoned the "Am I the A**hole?" (AITAH) subReddit.
Redditor ComprehensiveFig8245 was furious with their sister for stringing along their friend for nearly a year, even though she admitted she couldn't have feelings for him.
When she broke up with him and came out as a lesbian, the Original Poster (OP) couldn't find it within themselves to show her support for who she was while still being so angry with her for what she did.
They asked the sub:
"AITAH for refusing to congratulate my sister for coming out?"
The OP wasn't pleased with their sister's dating choices.
"My sister and I are twins (17). Personally, I dislike her; she's always been selfish and immoral. Also, I don't like liars. "
"My sister (17 Female) came out as a lesbian a week ago, saying that she's known for years but finally has the courage to come out."
"A part of this coming out was her dumping her boyfriend of 10 months."
"She confided to us that she fully knew she was a lesbian before ever dating him. Her aim was to pretend to be straight, and he was a convenient, available person to do that with."
"So the poor guy was head over heels for her and had to learn that she not only was a lesbian but chose to date him, knowing she was one and couldn't have feelings for him."
"I know him fairly well from shared extracurricular activities, and I know he's very torn up. I think it was very f**ked up of my sister to do that to him."
"In my personal opinion, it would have been better for her, knowing that she was a Lesbian and would never have feelings for the guy before even dating him, to NOT date him."
The OP couldn't find it within themselves to show her support for being true to herself.
"Hence, while my parents and her other friends were all congratulating her and talking about how brave she was, I wasn't, because it didn't sit right with me the way she acted."
"Mutual friends think I'm an a**hole for not supporting her, but I think, as I said, what she did was f**ked up, so I'm not in the mood to congratulate her."
"Who cares if it was a big step for her? If her big step includes using and lying to people, it's not worth celebrating."
"Whether he'll move on or not is irrelevant. To use an analogy, if I punched someone in the face, they would move on, and their face would heal. That doesn't mean it was right for me to do it. Same principle here."
"No part of her self-actualization required her to pretend to like a guy she knows she'll never have romantic feelings towards."
The OP felt that their sister should at least own up to what she had done.
"Most teenagers know that lying to and leading somebody on for almost a year is f**ked up. In addition, she hasn't even acknowledged her choice was wrong or apologized, so this isn't a learning moment for her."
"The fact remains that she woke up every single day and decided to lie to him that she had romantic feelings for him. Leading somebody on is wrong. Lying to them is wrong."
"She may have just come out, but she should feel bad for being somebody who uses and manipulates other people."
"AITAH for not showing her more support?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
- NTA: Not the A**hole
- YTA: You're the A**hole
- ESH: Everybody Sucks Here
- NAH: No A**holes Here
Some pointed out to the OP that this situation was more complicated than "right and wrong."
"NTA. She's 17 and made a bad decision to use another person as her cover. Teenagers make bad decisions and mistakes at this age which should not always be held against them long term."
"However, in the short term, you are entitled to your feelings of being upset about her actions."
"It doesn't sound like you don't support her; you're just upset with her actions towards your friend. Two things can be true at the same time." - WinEquivalent4069
"At 17, she was probably doubting it herself. Her ex-boyfriend unfortunately ended up being collateral damage."
"You don't have to congratulate her, but please try to be more empathetic and understanding of what she possibly could've been going through at the time." - tb0904
"I think you might be viewing the situation from too black-and-white a perspective. Yeah, it sucks for the boyfriend, but they are both very young; no doubt he will survive and thrive."
"You can congratulate her for having the courage to come out and still express your displeasure about the way she treated the boyfriend. It's not like you have to choose to deliver only one message, right?"
"I'm pretty sure that when she was mustering up the nerve to come out, having been there myself, it's probably pretty much all she could think about. Cut her some slack. She's only 17."
"Many people don't learn how to navigate tricky situations like this until they're much older. H**l, some people never learn. Give her kind words, and guide her on how to be better in the future." - Lise63
"Words of congratulations are not support."
"However, your sister may feel that you are not accepting her self-discovery in general. Supporting your sister (in my opinion) doesn't mean you need to agree with her every action, but maybe it should be telling her that you love her no matter what. Unless, of course, you don't feel that way. Then, that is another issue."
"Would you be so mad at your sister if she had just said, 'I don't have feelings for this person'? She is 17. She is learning who she is and what she wants."
"If I were you, I would offer my sister neutral words of support. It does take some courage to come out in this world, and maybe she isn't looking for praise for being a lesbian as much as she is looking for the acceptance and love of you, family, and friends."
"Don't put yourself so far outside of her circle that you risk your relationship. Talk to her. Listen. Good luck." - bettaworkgrl
"NTA."
"My ex lied to me for years and didn't tell me she was trans until I was five months pregnant. She actively lied to me the entire time and she admitted she knew for years before we even met. She said she was waiting to get married to tell me (trap me) but I got pregnant first. So I may be biased."
"I also understand her fear and I'm happy she finally came out, but I can't stand actively lying to people who love you and have a LOT of trauma from it. Luckily, our kid is amazing and she's a good co-parent, so you know, life is funny."
"I probably would have said something like, 'I'm happy you're finally comfortable, but people are people, not tools you use, so I hope you grow from this and never do something like it again, etc.'" - EveyBadWolf93
Others agreed and shared their experiences that felt similar to the sister's coming out story.
"As a lesbian, it's extremely difficult to come to terms with your sexuality, especially when you feel pressure from family/friends to behave a certain way."
"Society expects us to date men, get married, and have kids. It's a lot of pressure. Before I came out, I figured it would be better for everyone if I tried to be straight."
"It takes courage to finally decide to live for yourself. Give her some grace." - AdditionalElk8838
"I dated a guy in high school who later came out as gay. At least he didn't come out and dump me at the same time, though."
"It hurt for a bit but I eventually came to terms with the fact that he needed to be his authentic self, and I didn't want to date someone who wasn't attracted to me."
"And his parents were NOT supportive, so I get why he tried to 'be straight' and was scared to come out." - OIWantKenobi
"Just want to add, as a bisexual man, I knew I was attracted to men from a very young age. However, it took a lot of courage and until very recently to admit to myself that I was gay. It's a weird thing and it's hard to describe if you haven't been through it."
"I think it's okay to be upset with your sister for what she did. However, that doesn't mean that this wasn't also an insanely hard decision for her to make. Not knowing you two personally, I'm not gonna guess any details of your situation, but it is likely that she is feeling very guilty about this relationship."
"I think it's okay to have a talk about how to treat other people, but I think it's important that she understands that you're not upset that she's gay, but upset at how she treated a loved one. From what I read, it seems like this is your stance on this issue, but if you haven't yet, make sure that she knows that what is upsetting you isn't her being gay." - Kingyugi69
"My ex-wife and I married very young and divorced amicably a few years later."
"Fast forward 25 years, we've both remarried to wonderful women. Both of us have two kids; they adopted two babies, and my wife and I have a young adult and a teenager now."
"All of us stay in contact with each other and have a good relationship. We even go out to dinner together a couple of times a year."
"She is my oldest friend, a great person, and as young people, we didn't fully understand what was so incompatible with us, after just a couple of years. A decade later, it was pretty obvious."
"Being young is confusing, sex and attraction are more confusing, and being told by older generations, 'just get married and have kids like everyone else, and your life will make sense,' does NOT help one bit."
"In time, you'll have the benefit of hindsight and experience, same with your sister and ex-boyfriend." - Full-time-RV
While everyone could agree that it sucked that the OP's friend got caught in the middle of the OP's sister figuring out who she was, they weren't as convinced as the OP that it was a malicious act.
In fact, they encouraged the OP to mentally separate what had happened in the relationship from the sister's announcement. It was possible to support her identity while not supporting her actions.















Trans Man Considers Breaking Off Engagement After Fiancé Wants Him To Wear A Dress For Wedding
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A lot of people often say, "Believe people when they tell you who they are the first time."
It's one of life's truest (and ignored) sayings.
Believe a person when they are drunk and spew words as well.
Often, a few drinks will help a person let loose on how they really feel.
And then take note.
Redditor dude-e23 wanted to discuss his experience and get some feedback, so naturally, he came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
He asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"Hi, I'm sorry for the potentially bad English; it's not my first language anyway."
"I'm a 26-year-old male who recently got engaged to my fiancè, a 28-year-old male."
"For the sake of the story, I'm going to call him Mark."
"I'm a trans man, and this will be relevant to the story."
"Mark and I have been going out for 4 years, and I wasn't on testosterone when we met, and only started recently."
"Mark had never had any issues with my gender identity; he always respected my pronouns and my gender, or so I thought."
"Recently, we were over at his parents' when the topic of the wedding planning came up."
"His mom asked about our wedding outfits, and Mark, who was a bit drunk at this point, said, 'I want to put (my name) in a dress so SHE can be prepared for HER future wifey duty.'"
"I was stunned, and I could see how uncomfortable his mom was."
"I said we were leaving and took Mark home."
"It happened yesterday, and I'm genuinely thinking of breaking it off."
"I've struggled a lot with my identity, and a big part of my family cut me off after my coming out."
"Right now, Mark is at work, and I pretended to be asleep when he left, but now I can't stop overthinking small details like how he used some feminine term in bed or how he always hated when I cut my hair short."
"But maybe he thought it was funny, and he was too drunk to realize what he was saying."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A-hole.
"Yeah, so it turns out that this isn't the case."
"Please don't marry him."
"He fundamentally doesn't respect who you are."
"And to be honest, this would be a disturbing enough statement if you were a woman."
"You can't tie yourself down to this person." ~ HighRiseCat
"Yes! It would still be icky and questionable for him to say this if OP presented as a CIS female - but the fact that OP is a trans man makes it horrifying. WTF?!" ~ MarionberryOk2874
"NOR. I'm a cisgender, heterosexual married woman, so my experience with dating is very different from yours, but if my fiancé said 'She will be wearing a modest dress to get used to life as a married woman' or 'She needs to wear a low cut dress, so I can see what I'm buying' or anything along those lines, I would have called it off quickly."
"The dismissal of your identity is problematic as hell, but so is the little hint that married life will be radically different and not in a lovely, better way."
"Your wedding attire should reflect you, your identity, your values, comfort, and inspire confidence."
"You deserve that."
"Everyone deserves that." ~ ankareeda
"NOR, have a direct conversation with him about this, and don't get legally entangled with him."
"He shouldn't be thinking this is funny anyway; drunkness is not an excuse here, you're his partner of many years." ~ Fit_Square1322
"If these things that he says are coming out when he's drunk, that probably means he's thinking about these issues of your gender presentation, but he's not telling you what he's thinking."
"He sounds very emotionally immature and not ready for marriage." ~ GreenDirt2
"Bro, drunk words are sober thoughts with the volume turned up."
"Thought it was funny isn’t a defense."
"It’s a confession."
"He told his mom who he actually thinks you are."
"You survived your family cutting you off to live as you."
"You don’t owe anyone a second round of that grief because your fiancé can’t handle pronouns after 4 years." ~ BabydolllVibess
"Oh, my God??!!"
"Dude, that’s crazy. Please dump his as*."
"He clearly doesn’t see you as a man, and if you marry him, you’re resigning yourself to a life of being misgendered, and he’s probably gonna try and detransition you or feminize you (seeing as he wants you to wear a DRESS)."
"Also, I’m a trans dude, and I think it’s important that you hear a fellow trans man say this."
"You need to leave."
"You’re a man, and it’s insane that he’s trying to make you feel like you aren’t."
"The breakup will probably suck, but if you stay with him, it’ll be 100x worse." ~ mothmn_9
"NOR, I’ve learned drunk people usually speak more honestly than they mean to."
"I’d guess his mask slipped off; this is certainly grounds for leaving if he can’t accept who you are as you are." ~ Defiant_Tea_8722
"You’re not overreacting."
"I don’t think he actually respects you and who you are as a person."
"He called you feminine things all throughout your relationship."
"Maybe he never accepted you, and I’m sorry."
"I know that's a lot, but I know you will find someone who actually respects you and cares for you truly." ~ Due_Classic_4090
"Some people would tell you that people say things they don’t mean when they’re drunk. I think that’s BS."
"In my experience, it just removes their filter, and everything they say has an underlying truth to it."
"Knowing your gender identity and what you prefer, his words seem very disrespectful towards you and inconsiderate of your feelings, and being drunk isn’t a good enough excuse."
"If you have doubts, don’t just brush them off; trust your gut." ~ Kitchen_Process_8351
"NOR."
"I’m a cis woman, but my first serious relationship was with a trans man."
"Frankly, he was abusive, and I don’t even like or respect him, but still I would NEVER misgender him, because I sincerely understand that he’s a man."
"And I’m not an a**hole."
"Your partner is an a**hole." ~ tigalicious
"NOR. That’s a major breach of trust."
"Your relationship has gone on long enough for him to know that sh*t isn’t cool and is not a matter to joke over, even if he’s drunk (unless he has a drinking problem, in which case he needs to address that before marriage and work to make amends)." ~ Moist_Drippings
"NOR. It sounds like he might be counting on your gender identity to be 'just a phase' and that after the marriage, he’ll expect you to embody the 'wifely' role fully."
"He isn’t taking you seriously as a man, and it doesn’t sound like he’s actually on board for a homosexual marriage."
"Get out of there!" ~ Amwfgoddess
"NOR. My biggest concern is the potential for abuse - wifey duty?"
"Not even a conservative man says something like that."
"It's a pure trash statement."
"My first marriage was to an addict... 'DRUNKEN WORDS ARE SOBER THOUGHTS!'"
"😔 I'm so sorry. 🫂" ~ pashinates
OP returned with an UPDATE:
"I dont know if this is how you update, but anyway..."
"Mark and I are done."
"He came home from work an hour and a half ago, and I made him dinner so we could eat and talk."
"I told him what he said deeply hurt me, that I felt like he didn't respect me and saw me as a woman."
"He said that until recently he always saw me as a man, even though I'm the more feminine side (whatever that means), but since I've started taking testosterone, he realized he was less attracted to me and started to resent me."
"Which is f**king weird because my appearance didn't even change that much, and that he needed to take the 'lead' of the relationship again."
"By then, I had heard enough."
"I made it clear we were done and that this type of behavior was not okay and that it'll never be okay."
"That he had to go to therapy and work on his insecurities, but that I couldn't stay with him."
"At this point, he was apologizing and almost pleading with me to stay, but I really did not want to stay, so I took all my essentials and called my friend."
"I'm currently waiting for her to pick me up."
"I'm so confused about how someone I loved so much could betray me like that."
"I'll ask my friend and her husband if they can go back to take my other stuff later on because I really don't want to see him."
"I'm safe, my friend set me up in the guest bedroom, and I'm so grateful I have her."
"Mark and his family have been blowing up my phone."
"His mom, bless her heart, has only asked how I was and said that no matter what, she'll always see me as her son and that she's sorry about Mark's behavior, but his dad and brother have been sending me very insulting texts that included slurs."
"Mark threatened to 'go get me,' but luckily, he doesn't know where my friend lives."
"Honestly, I don't even recognize the man I was with."
"I'm thinking about moving to another city where I could live with my cousin until I'm back on my feet, but that's a whole other story."
"I'm planning to keep in contact with Mark's mom, and I'll be meeting up with her on Thursday."
"Thank you so much for opening my eyes and for making me realize Mark's behavior was not normal."
This is such a heartbreaking story.
So sorry you had to go through this, OP.
Reddit is loudly 1000% with you.
It's wonderful that you have love and support.
Stay strong.