Cemeteries have different meanings to everyone.
Beyond being a place where the deceased are buried, people view them as a place to honor their loved ones.
Some people have superstitious views of cemeteries, and often find themselves going there to put their theories, and often their fears, to the test.
For some people, however, a cemetery is simply an unavoidable destination on their way home or their way to work.
Redditor Karl_Marxist_3rd recently found themself in a cemetery largely by coincidence, and felt it was a good opportunity to finally get to something they'd been meaning to do for a while.
Unfortunately, the original poster OP's behavior was met with disapproval by a passerby, calling the OP "disrespectful".
Wondering if this was the case, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where they asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for eating a croissant in a cemetery?"
The OP explained why their brief pause in a cemetery was met with disapproval by another visitor:
"I had a doctor's appointment today and they told me to not eat or drink anything before it."
"Once I got out, I was starving and pretty thirsty, so I went to a supermarket, grabbed a croissaint and a bottle of store brand cola and went to look for somewhere to sit down."
"The nearest spot I could find that wasn't directly by a busy road was a cemetery."
"So I went in, walked to some benches and sat down."
"I had almost finished eating when a woman, maybe in her 70s, walked past me and asked who I was visiting if I didn't mind the question."
"I said I was just eating somewhere quiet, which surprised her."
"She then told me that I should be ashamed to be so disrespectful and left."
"I finished eating and drinking before leaving."
"I can see where she was coming from and it's possible she was grieving and looking for solidarity, but also I was just eating and it was the closest spot."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation, by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
Everyone agreed that the OP was simply finding A quiet place to sit and eat, and wasn't desecrating a grave or disrespecting the deceased:
"My sister died soon after we got out of college, and she was buried at Hollywood Cemetery (historic cemetery in Richmond, VA)."
"At first I was angry and horrified to see people casually strolling around, walking their dogs, taking pictures, laughing and talking, and generally treating this place of grief like it was a public park - but then I realized how incredibly lovely it actually is that there’s beauty and life there, it’s not just a cold place for sadness."
"It sounds like the lady OP spoke with is still very deep in grief."
"If I were buried somewhere and someone sat down near my headstone to munch on a croissant, I think I’d be happy for them that they got to enjoy their snack in peace."
"NTA."- Vannie91
"NTA."
"Very old-fashioned of you to treat a cemetery as a public park."
"Back in the day, they were a popular spot for picnics."
"You don’t have to have a personal relationship with the dead to be in a place dedicated to remembering them."- tardytimetraveler
"NTA as long as you weren't littering or anything."
"She should have minded her business."- NewDate6115
"I suppose it may be different in different places, but I'm in Boston, which has the first combination public garden/cemetery in the United States, and cemeteries since then have been usually designed on the same plan."
"Most cemeteries nowadays are a combination of dead people storage and public green space."
"If the one you were at is like that."
"NTA."- IanDOsmond
"NTA."
"Traditionally cemetery’s were one of the few green spaces in the city, as a result many people used to go there to play and have a picnic in."- A_Literal_Fruit_5369
"As long as you weren't taking a shit on somebody's grave or dancing naked around the columbarium, but simply sitting quietly and eating your croissant, there was nothing disrespectful about what you were doing."
"I'm in my 70s, and I don't know what the old bat's problem was."
"But she was completely out of place."
"I'm sure she would have been horrified if she had been there the time my family visited our mother's grave and drank champagne."
"A glass of champagne may have been spilled so that Mom could have some too."
"NTA."- TararaBoomDA
"NTA."
"Old lady needs to mind her business, you did nothing disrespectful."
"I've seen families have full picnics at the cemetery while visiting loved ones."
"There's nothing wrong with eating peacefully at a cemetery."- somerandomshmo
"NTA."
"My family goes on walks through the cemetery next door on nice afternoons."
"We see people picnicking at gravesites, dudes drinking beer with long-gone friends, and people walking on the trails all the time As long as you aren’t disruptive and bothering other people you’re fine."- One-Permission-1811
"NTA I'm sure those that are dead enjoyed the company."- PrincessMo
"NTA, when my wife and I moved to the Philippines, one of the first parties we went to was at a cemetery."
"In the Philippines, it's tradition to bring food, tables, and chairs to the cemetery and set up next to a loved one's grave and eat."
"So as long as you are respectful, it shouldn't be a problem."
"That old lady was just a prude."- The-Forsaken-Outcast
"NTA."
"There’s nothing disrespectful about eating a croissant in a cemetery."- UngnomeCawler
"Absolutely NTA."
"I've lived in very close proximity to both a cemetery and a graveyard in my life."
"The cemetery was huge."
"Like, had its own huge postcode."
"It was regularly used as just somewhere to go for a walk, I had a family friend who was learning to drive there and knocked over a very old gravestone, most things were fair game, I'm pretty sure one of my sisters gave her first BF a BJ there."
"Right now I live 10 minutes' walk from a graveyard."
"Very, very old, attached to a still active church, and right next to a popular dog park (separated by a 2.5-3m wall)."
"List of things that a graveyard is used for:"
"On-leash walking away from the main park that can get a bit crowded with excited dogs."
"People find a quiet place where they can get drunk (especially underage)."
"People just taking a casual walk."
"Weekly AA meeting (really absurd the first time I went to it but kinda cool)."
"Checking out historical tombstones."
"People having English-speaking conversation meetings to help learn English."
"Fundraising stalls on weekends."
"Unless you're actively vandalizing, leaving rubbish around, answering the call of nature on a gravesite, you're all good."-chalk_in_boots
"NTA."
"In Australia, cemeteries also get used as parks."
"People walk dogs, toddlers ride bikes, people sit and enjoy the peaceful surroundings."
"There's even one cemetery that occasionally has criterium races for the local cycle club."
"Cemeteries are mostly multi-denominational and non-denominational."- AussieKoala-2795
"NTA."
"I think the buried would like some company."- yogginggirl
"NTA."
"The Victorians used to spend their Sundays wandering the cemeteries and eating picnic lunches."
"Cemeteries are for leisure time."- No-Housing-5124
"NTA."
"Cemetery was one of the few green spaces I had easy access to as a kid."
"It's not like you were throwing a party."
"I guess I'd just not answer next time."
"In fact for all she knows you were visiting someone and just didn't want to say."- Character-Twist-1409
"NTA."
"She doesn’t get to dictate use of the bench."
"Also, it was none of her business for asking."- United-Loss4914
"NTA."
"If you were sitting there quietly, you weren't being disrespectful."
"Lots of people go to cemeteries for the quietness, and even to walk their dogs."- No_Difficulty_9365
"NTA."
"You weren't desecrating a grave."- Anxious_Reporter_601
"NTA."
"My dad is buried in the Catholic section of the smallish cemetery in our village."
"We often talk about how nice it is that he's surrounded by his old friends, and when we go up there, we stop and have a think about them too."
"I hope maybe that happens for your grandpa, if he's in a cemetery where other people who knew him may visit."- Classroom_Visual
There were a few, however, who wondered if the woman's grief might have taken over her emotions, even if they still agreed the OP did nothing wrong:
"It’s a beautiful perspective, but it also perfectly explains why NAH (No A**holes Here) might apply to the grieving lady, even if OP is solidly NTA."
"When grief is raw and fresh, seeing the rest of the world continue to function 'normally' (like eating a pastry) feels inherently offensive."
"It's just a sad collision of two completely different emotional states."- RoosterSubstantial75
There is one thing everyone in a cemetery, be it permanently or passing through, is looking for.
A little peace and quiet
Something this passing stranger refused to allow the OP to have.
Leaving one to reconsider who was being disrespectful in this situation.
Unless it really was the grief talking.















Woman Claps Back At Overweight Roommate After She Calls Her A 'Skinny B*tch' First
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A person's weight can be a VERY sensitive topic.
Whether someone is considered overweight or underweight, talking about it can cause a lot of strife.
Some people make comments that they think are light-hearted fun.
But that kind of fun can sting emotionally.
Redditor Certain_Nothing_3355 wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback, so naturally, she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I (22 F[emale]) have three roommates."
"Lacey (22 F) is one of my roommates."
"All four of us have a good relationship; we regularly have dinner together, go out together, and hang out at our apartment."
"Sometimes Lacey can be snarky, but usually we don’t really say anything to her or each other about it."
"I just chalk it up to a personality quirk and accept it."
"For context, I am 115lb, and Lacey is 215lb (she’s recently started her weight loss journey and posts her weight online)."
"I promise this is relevant."
"Last night, my roommates and I were getting ready for a night out, and I was in my room with the door open, putting makeup on."
"Music was playing, and my roommates were running in and out of each other’s rooms to borrow clothes and chat about plans for the night."
"Lacey walked by my room to grab something from our shared bathroom."
"As she did, she looked into my room and loudly said, 'I’m so glad I’m not one of those skinny bi*ches that needs makeup to feel good about herself.”
"Before thinking, I snapped back, 'I’m so glad I’m not one of those overweight b*tches that needs to put other girls down to feel good about herself.'”
"And then I went right back to putting on my makeup."
"She burst into tears and told me I had no right to bring up her weight."
"I told her she brought up my weight first, so she had no leg to stand on."
"Later, one of my other roommates told me I was out of line since Lacey has struggled with her weight, and we all know she can make sharp comments sometimes, so I should have let it go."
"I agree, I could have probably been nicer about it, but at the same time, I feel like I was also matching the energy she gave me."
The OP was left to wonder:
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed in on some options to the question, AITA:
Many Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA. I'm an overweight snarky b***h, and Lacey got what she asked for."
"If we have learned nothing from the body positive movement, it's that NOBODY is allowed to comment on someone else's appearance."
"She drew first blood."
"She won't do it again... lol." ~ kstweetersgirl2013
"NTA. I had a girl call me anorexic all throughout school, and everyone had an issue when I'd call her fat."
"You don't get to make derogatory comments about other people's bodies without expecting it back."
"If I'm going to be an ar*ehole, then I'd fully expect it back."
"I don't see why it should be any different just because she's overweight."
"That doesn't provide her with immunity from having her actions reflected back at her."
"If she doesn't like it, then she should have enough self-awareness to realize she started it and should have expected it back." ~ SleepyDeluxe
"Lacey struggles with her mouth, too, by making such an ugly remark."
"She fired the first shot."
"You just fired back. NTA." ~ YakCertain5472
"NTA. Some insecure big girls think, since being skinny is generally considered conventionally attractive, that it’s OK and fair to disparage and insult people thinner than they are. It’s not."
"They don’t like comments about their bodies or weight, and they shouldn’t do the same to others."
"You gave her a taste of her own medicine, and hopefully she’ll think twice before talking to anyone like that again." ~ draizetrain
"NTA. You’re not in the wrong for clapping back."
"She should learn that you treat others how you want to be treated yourself."
"Not your fault, you returned the favor." ~ turtlesaregorgeous
"NAH, fu*k that. I had a 'friend' who constantly made snide comments on my body."
"She was insecure with herself and lashed out to make herself feel bigger."
"She had the same reaction your roommate did when I started throwing it back."
"Sorry, kids - being overweight isn't a bulletproof shield to protect you from the ramifications of being an as*hole."
"Don't start none, won't be none."
"Either go to therapy and deal with your insecurities, or get it back in your face." ~ Internal-Student-997
"Not the as*hole."
"I couldn't care less if 'that's just how she is' and that she's sensitive about her weight."
"She's an as*hole for being rude for no reason."
"Seriously, she's not being 'snarky.'"
"She's being a rude as*hole."
"What you said was snarky."
"What she said was completely uncalled for."
"Maybe now she'll think twice about insulting people for absolutely no reason." ~ EffectiveNo7681
"I'm going with NTA only because I feel like that sort of behavior needs to have consequences."
"Let her cry and feel bad; if she says something rude about your body, and you give that back to her?"
"Well, maybe she'll think twice in the future."
"I can see why some people went with ESH because, yes, you could have handled it kinder."
"But you're 22, and also you just gave her back what she gave you, which wasn't at all unfair."
"She was rude; you were rude in return."
"She got upset."
"Them's the consequences, hopefully she learned the right lesson here."
"That said, your remark probably really cut her, because underneath her rudeness is likely a lot of insecurity and jealousy, and that's what drove her comment."
"It's not up to you to be her therapist, but if you care about her, you might want to try to have a conversation with her about what drove her to say that to you when you've both calmed down."
"Someone may need to encourage her to get some support rather than taking her angst out on others." ~ Datura_Rose
"NTA and you were NOT 'out of line.'"
"If she’s going to be a b*tch she should expect others to be a b*tch right back, especially about the same thing."
"She doesn’t sound 'snarky,' she sounds like she needs therapy and a proper sit-down to discuss boundaries and appropriate behavior." ~ SteampunkRobin
"NTA. Especially because some people struggle with gaining weight."
"People tell me all the time, 'I wish I were as skinny as you!!'”
"Okay, do you also wish you had thyroid problems that make it impossible to properly digest and hang onto the thousands of dollars I spend on food?"
"My body is killing itself from the inside out, but yeaaaaahhh go tell me to eat another cheeseburger." ~ Dull-Selection615
"See... some of these comments aren't it... yes it costs nothing to be kind, and you don't have to match her energy."
"However, constantly having to push aside her comments because 'that's just how she is' is absolutely not ok."
"Being overweight and snarky are not free passes for her to weaponize and use them."
"Sometimes you need to snap back. NTA." ~ nackle09
"NTA - She was tearing you down to make herself feel better. "
"Sure, she struggles with weight, meaning that was a guaranteed gut shot (no pun intended), but that means she more than understands how hurtful it is to be judged by size."
"Which would make this situation all the more disappointing for you."
"Also, if someone wants to be the snarky friend and make comments like that with no repercussions, then they gotta learn to take some of it back, especially if they cross the line."
"She’s your friend, sure, you could have been nicer, but good intentions only get you so far, and even if she meant it in jest, it doesn’t mean there’s no line to cross." ~ Jedi_Of_Kashyyyk
"NTA. I imagine this isn't the first time she has done something like this."
"You don't have to always just ignore her and let it go; it's not fair that you keep being insulted and do nothing about it."
"I see no difference between what she said and what you said, so if she cried, maybe she'll use this experience to understand how she constantly makes other people feel." ~ WhatTookTheeSoLong
"NTA, she brought up weight first as an attempt to bully without any retaliation; she knows weight is a touchy subject and has made sure no one is allowed to make comments like that to her, but she feels entitled to make opposite comments."
"Do not apologize, but I’d maybe have a roommate sit down and talk about what is appropriate and not appropriate to say to and about others."
"And make it about weight because it’s uncomfortable, but she started this."
"People have all sorts of reasons they are overweight, and some of them really can’t help it."
"In the same fashion, some people are underweight, and you don’t know why they are that skinny, and it’s none of your business, just like it’s nobody’s business why you are overweight."
"Say plainly: these comments about ANY weight have got to stop because they’re harmful."
"From now on, your apartment and your language are body positive no matter what, and snarky comments will get called out as the asshole remarks they are." ~ Netflxnschill
"NTA, as a plus-size woman myself, I would never comment on someone's body, and if I did, I'd expect the same energy back." ~ kpi3zy
Reddit is with you, OP.
You had every right to defend yourself.
Hopefully, you can all talk it out.
Good Luck.