Not all blood is thicker than water.
Some family members are more rude and cruel than strangers.
A person can only take so much abuse before they snap.
Then family can be changed forever.
Redditor No_Village1933 wanted to discuss her experience and get some feedback, so naturally, she came to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subreddit.
She asked:
"AITA for telling my BIL to stop treating my husband like a child?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"So, I (48 F[emale]), my husband (49 M[ale]), and my daughter (16 F) attended my M[other]-I[n]-L[aw]'s birthday party."
"It was a large family gathering that included F[ather]-I[n]-L[aw], B[rother]-I[n]-L[aw]'s, S[ister]-I[n]L[aw]'s, uncles, aunts, nephews, and nieces."
"Now, there's this BIL (54 M) whom I shall name as Ken for this purpose, and he happened to be my husband's oldest brother."
"The thing about Ken is he has this constant habit of lecturing my husband."
"For example, he was questioning why my husband had bought a Korean car, going on that they're no good and he should have bought a Japanese or German one instead."
"And other things like, 'Why on earth did you buy this jacket and jumper? They don't suit you at all. Have you bought gifts for Mother? They better not be some cheap stuff that you didn't put any thought into."
"At first, I chalk this up as an older brother looking out for his younger brother, but then the tone and words he used seem overbearing."
"Not even my husband's mother and father nagged him like this, at least not in front of others."
"And as I've learned, Ken only targets my husband and doesn't boss his other siblings like that."
"My husband doesn't react too strongly when his oldest brother goes at him."
"He just nods along and says, 'Okay then.'"
"I mean, I have tried telling my husband that he should just tell his big brother to lay off him already."
"Anyway, here comes the issue... we were having dinner at the table, talking about any random topics that came to mind."
"One of my SILs was asking if we had made any holiday plans."
"My husband mentioned that we are going on a trip to the Maldives soon."
"And of course, Ken butted in."
"He was like, 'Oh really, so who organized this trip? Don't tell me that your wife did everything for you.'"
"I jumped in and pointed out that my husband had sorted out our trip."
"Then he questioned my husband, Are your passports up to date? Have you checked if you need visas? etc.'"
"And after my husband answered everything, he said, 'Wow, good boy, you're stepping up.'"
"Honestly, I was pretty peeved about this and thought this could not go on forever."
"As soon as Ken left to go to the bathroom, I made an excuse to leave the dining room and waited outside for him."
"When he came back out, I spoke with him. "
"I told him as nicely as I could, 'You need to stop treating my husband like he's a kid. And show him some respect.'"
"Let's just say Ken didn't like the way I confronted him."
"At first, he acted all confused and in denial, saying he wasn't disrespecting my husband."
"I kept insisting that he was."
"Once he reacted aggressively, 'Who the hell do you think you are? What's it got to do with you?'"
"That's when I finally lost my cool."
"The commotion obviously got heard, and we had to get split up."
"It made the rest of the birthday party awkward after that."
"My other BIL and the SILs were saying to me that it shouldn't be my place to speak on my husband's behalf."
"And if he feels discomfort over what Ken said to him, he should be the one speaking up."
The OP was left to wonder:
"With all things considered, AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared that OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA at all."
"Ken sounds super overbearing, and honestly, it's weird that he only targets your husband like that."
"I get that some people think 'it's a sibling thing,' but there's a line between teasing and just being straight-up disrespectful, especially in front of everyone."
"If your husband isn't comfortable standing up for himself, it makes sense that you'd want to step in, no one wants to watch their partner get talked down to like a child."
"Yeah, maybe it would've been better if your husband said something himself, but sometimes people just get used to that dynamic and don't realize how bad it looks from the outside."
"You were just trying to have his back."
"If Ken can dish it out, he should be able to handle being called out." ~ sikandarmirza
"NTA, Ken sounds like a complete annoyance, and I'm not too sure why he feels the need to single out your husband the way he does constantly. Siblings do have a certain way of being with each other and there comes a point where he's just being disrespectful, your husband should stand up for himself." ~ mileyxmorax
"NTA. Who do you think you are? HIS WIFE."
"THAT IS WHO YOU ARE."
"However, you may be one if your husband has previously asked you not to say anything."
"I think you need to have a frank conversation with your husband about how he feels about Ken's treatment of him and why he's never shut his brother down." ~ Malphas43
"NTA."
"'Who the hell do you think you are?'"
"'What's it got to do with you?'"
"Aren't these the questions he should be asking himself?"
"Your BIL needs to f**k off and learn how to curb the superiority complex."
"You're all over 40."
"In the future call him out publicly."
"Every. Single. Time."
"You and your husband share a life so therefore it's got everything to do with you and nothing to do with him." ~ MadamMim88
"NTA. It would have been more effective from your husband but Ken needed to hear it."
"And you tried to tell him privately."
"You weren't the one making the scene."
"Next time you are together tell him you are sorry there was a scene and you'll try to understand this is how he prefers to communicate so you'll respect that by communicating with him the same way."
"And then do it."
"When he makes snarky comments at your husband, give a little chuckle and make one right back."
"If anyone says anything you just look at them blankly and tell them you're communicating with Ken in his preferred manner and ask if they would prefer Ken and yourself speak to others differently."
"But I'm petty." ~ angel2hi
"NTA... It's absolutely your place to defend your husband if he's being mistreated."
"His family don't set the rules for your family. Let them know this behavior won't be tolerated."
"Don't apologize and don't back down." ~ RoyallyOakie
"NTA. I wouldn't tolerate my S[ignificant] O[ther] that way either."
"He's a grown man, not a child, and his brother needs to stop treating him that way."
"You were actually much nicer than I would have been, I likely would have made a scene at the table." ~ RandoGenericUserName
"NTA at all and I'm pretty sure if the females were being lambasted around the table they'd want their partners to defend them."
"F**k the BIL and f**k the rest of them that says it wasn't your place."
"Yes, your hubby needs to open his mouth and be 1000% direct cos him allowing them to steamroll him IS a problem, but you're NTA."
"Kudos to you babe for protecting your man." ~ Enough-Owl-4301
"NTA. It is your place to stand up for your husband."
"Ken sounds like he's a jerk." ~ quirkytypeofteacher
"NTA - regardless of how your husband feels about it, you also have a right to say 'I am not comfortable when you talk to my husband like this, he is a grown man and my life partner.'"
"'If you can't speak to him with respect while I'm around, we're going to have a problem.'"
"Because when he treats your husband like a child, he's also disrespecting your choice to marry him."
"He thinks you've made a bad choice because he thinks your husband isn't capable of looking after himself."
"Depending on the family dynamic and history, your husband may blame himself when he doesn't live up to his brother's standards and may be seeking his approval."
"He may have accepted being talked down to, and think it's worth it for the feeling of accomplishment he gets on the rare occasions he's approved of."
"It's not a healthy dynamic, but keep the possibility in mind when talking to your husband about this. He may think he deserves the way he's treated."
"Probably worth talking to your husband again and explaining that your BIL isn't just nagging at him, he's also insulting you."
"And that listening to him rant unchallenged is uncomfortable and upsetting."
"It's great if it doesn't bother him, but it does bother you, and you'd appreciate his support in finding a solution that works for both of you." ~ princess_ferocious
"Not the a**hole at all."
"It's not wrong for you to defend your husband when he's constantly belittled, sibling or not."
"His other siblings don't get it because he's not lecturing them like this."
"Also maybe something happened when they were children and that's why your husband is his main target… so you might wanna ask him more about his childhood and sibling relationships." ~ REDDIT
"If it's not your place to speak on your husband's behalf, then it's not his brother's place to question his actions."
"Actually, it's not his brother's place even if it is your place."
"Your husband chose you... his brother wasn't his choice. NTA." ~ booch
"NTA. I have a brother who is exactly like Ken."
"Other people always do things wrong."
"His way is the right way to do things."
"He thinks he's being helpful by lecturing you."
"My wife doesn't say anything but I just let it go in one ear and out the other."
"It's tedious and boring." ~ floydfan
"NTA."
"Also tell Ken there is someone on the internet that wants to drive his Korean car up his a**." ~ chronichyjinx
"You are not the AH."
"You are his wife and Ken stepped over the line."
"Married couples should always have each other's backs even against family members."
"The rest of the family didn't like a woman standing up to this bully." ~ VeganProudHuman
Reddit is with you, OP.
You were standing up for your man.
Someone had to say something.
Hopefully, your husband will speak up next.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.