When in doubt, it's never a good idea to make a joke at someone else's expense.
Even if you think you know someone well enough and think surely they'll understand what you're saying isn't true, that still doesn't mean they'll find it funny.
Particularly if you make a joke about something that has always been a touchy subject that a simple "just kidding" can't excuse.
The husband of a recent Redditor had a high school friend whom the OP had a difficult time warming to.
Specifically owing to his less-than-G-rated sense of humor.
While the OP usually did her best to brush off this friend's jokes and jabs, she felt that he went too far on a recent visit.
And went on to tell him so in no uncertain terms.
After being scolded by her husband for her conduct, the OP took to the subReddit "Am I The A**hole" (AITA), where she asked fellow Redditors:
"AITA for calling out my husband's friend after he made inappropriate comments about my son's paternity?"
The OP explained why a recent joke told by her husband's friend turned out to be no laughing matter for anyone:
"I (23 F[emale]) have been married to my husband, Alex (27 M[ale]), for 2 years, and we have a 10 month old son, Dylan."
"Alex has a friend named Mike (27 M)."
"They've been best friends since high school."
"From my first encounter, I did not like Mike."
"He is really childish, likes to be the center of attention, and has a crude sense of humor."
"It's like he never got out of his frat boy phase."
"All of my husband's friends are married or in long-term relationships, whereas Mike has never been in a long-term relationship or has brought any woman around."
"He has also made some weird comments toward me that made me uncomfortable."
"My husband has a deep bond with Mike, and they often go on hunting trips or have boys' nights."
"I've never tried to keep my husband from hanging out with his friend, but I have limited my contact with Mike as much as possible since we've been together."
"Mike came over to pick up my husband to go golfing."
"I was holding our baby when I answered the door."
"Mike greeted us at the door, asked to hold my baby, and was cooing at him."
"Then he said, 'Hey there, man…come to poppa', and my husband and Mike started laughing."
"A bit of background: I have brown hair and blue eyes, and my husband has black hair and brown eyes."
"Our son's hair is coming in blonde, and he has blue eyes."
"Mike has blondish hair and blue eyes."
"I was a bit caught off guard by it but ignored his comment."
"Mike then said, 'He looks like me'."
"Maybe he's mine', and my husband and Mike continued to laugh."
"I was obviously not amused."
"I told Mike to hand me my son and then told him, 'Not in a million years, and no woman with sense would want you'."
"Neither my husband nor Mike laughed at my comment, and Mike just made a face before he and my husband left."
"Later, my husband told me I 'took it too far' with Mike, that Mike was just joking, but I made it personal."
"I told him those comments were disrespectful to me as his wife and the mother of this child."
"He then said it's obviously not true, so why am I so upset when I know how Mike is."
"AITA?"
Fellow Redditors weighed in on. where they believed the OP fell in this particular situation, by declaring:
- NTA – Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- ESH – Everyone Sucks Here
- NAH – No A**holes Here
The Reddit largely agreed that the OP was not the a**hole for clapping back at Mike.
Most felt that Mike earned a talking down to for his insensitive, tasteless joke, and that her husband should have stood up for her and not Mike, even if some felt the OP may have gone too far, as by her own admission there was no way what his joke insinuated could be true:
"Ask your husband why Mike's comfort is more important than yours?"
"NTA."- CeramicSavage
"NTA."
"It was a harmless joke."
"Obviously a joke."
"But a joke intended to make your husband laugh as if you weren't even there."
"In fact, the joke doesn't even make sense if you are there because the implication is that he's been sleeping with you behind your husband's back."
"The only way it would work is if the three of you were close enough such that you'd play along (like: 'oh no, well, sorry hubby, the truth had to come out sooner or later' while you put your arm around Mike'."
"But the fact they both laughed, and because you don't have that familiarity, it was hurtful that your husband chose to laugh (somewhat at your expense) as if you weren't even there or only considered what the joke implies about him and not what it implies to you."
"This is the kind of joke you make between friends you know it'll land with, and you are NOT one of those people."
"Your husband's closeness to him does not automatically transitively pass to you because you're his wife."
"Nor should you feel pressured into being comfortable with that level of familiarity being forced on you."
"It wasn't necessarily the joke itself that got you so upset."
"It was the fact he thought he could tell that joke without thinking of you at all, the forced familiarity from both of them, and the way they talked as if you weren't even there and don't see anything wrong with any of it."- jmking
"NTA."
"I would ask your husband if he thinks it's funny that his friend jokes about impregnating his wife without her knowledge."
"I wonder what return joke would not be taking it too far."
"'I doubt it, I bet your sperm is as useless as that joke'."
"'OK let's get a DNA test, you're paying'."- C_Majuscula
"NTA."
"Yeah, you know how Mike is."
"That's why you're upset."
"A joke is only funny if all parties involved are laughing."
"You were not laughing ergo, the joke is not funny."
"Also, why is it okay if a joke is at your expense but not at Mike's?"
"So he can dish it but he can't take it?"
"What a baby."
"Basically, in the words of Marie from Aristocats, 'Ladies don't start fights, but they can finish them!'"
"Mike started the fight by calling you a cheater who would make your husband raise another man's baby."
"You finished it by shutting down his foolishness."- CryptographerFull581
"NTA."
"'You know how he is' is such a f*cking infuriating excuse."
"'He's always been an ahole so let him continue to be one'."
"Your husband doesn't get to choose if you have to be comfortable with this."
"Once I'd be more lenient, but it sounds like Mike just is constantly exhausting to be around and really, why should you give him any slack if he's constantly like that?"
"If you had made a joke about something and insinuated you had cheated, would he have found that funny?"- mudcrabsareforever
"It's so interesting how different perspectives can change how you view a situation."
"For me I would have found it funny."
"I definitely wouldn't have felt the need to insult Mike because of the joke."
"But obviously you have issues with who Mike is as a person, so found the joke insulting."
"I personally feel like your response was a but harsh, but I come from a family of people that joke by insulting each other so not much phases me."
"I'd say NTA because it seems like there is more going on with the dynamics with Mike than just this one joke."- OkToday6170
"NTA."
"'Joking' you had sex with him and the baby was his was inappropriate and you responded accordingly."- Warm_Home6971
"NTA, and that's massively inappropriate!"
"In no world is making that kind of joke about someone else's kids ok, unless, and it's a big unless, you have a close enough and trusting enough relationship with BOTH parents."
"His joke implied her cheating with him, when she clearly and obviously barely tolerates him for her husband's sake."
"What kind of person makes that kind of joke about someone that they are not friends with?"
"That is massive, and I will never understand the people claiming it's ok."- Winter_Wolverine4622
Seeing as the OP made her dislike for Mike abundantly clear, it's safe to say that everyone present knew that there was no way anything Mike said could possibly have been true.
Even so, not many women take kindly to a joke insinuating that they were sleeping around, no matter how far-fetched the joke may be.
Nor should any husband take the side of the one who made the joke over their wife.
True, the OP didn't need to stoop to Mike's level.
But maybe a taste of his own medicine is just what Mike needed.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.