Most states in the USA allow a surname change as part of a marriage license and as part of a divorce decree without additional fees. But if either person doesn't take advantage of that opportunity, a stand alone name change has to be filed and approved by the court.
In the United States, you can expect to pay anywhere between $100 and $500 to obtain that court order to change a surname.
But this only covers court costs. There can be additional fees to obtain an updated social security card, drivers license, credit cards, etc...
Until recently, a bride not taking her husband's surname was unheard of unless she was a celebrity prior to marriage. And even then, the marriage license often showed a surname change.
Wives also rarely reverted to their original surname during a divorce, especially if there were minor children. The prevailing wisdom was life would be less confusing if the mother and children shared the same surname.
This was also during a time before hyphenated names being given to the children was common in the United States and the majority of siblings shared the same parents.
Of course, all of this is a non-issue in countries where surnames for spouses and children follow a completely different set of norms.
A divorcee—who took her then husband's surname when they married—turned to the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit for feedback over not changing her surname back to her original surname during or after her divorce.
Feeling_Blessed_4eve asked:
"AITA for refusing to drop my ex-husband's last name?"
The original poster (OP) explained:
"I (56, female) divorced my husband two years ago after 26 years of marriage. We have four kids, and the split was amicable. He came out as gay, and we mutually agreed to part ways."
"Changing my name wasn't a priority—updating IDs, legal documents, and bank accounts would be a huge hassle. I still use his last name on official documents, but go by my maiden name socially."
"Recently, he got engaged to a wonderful guy. I've been supportive of their relationship, but during my grandson's birthday party, my ex suddenly asked if I'd consider dropping his last name."
"His fiancé chimed in, saying it makes him uncomfortable that I still use it. I was caught off guard and awkwardly joked that unless they want to spend hours in lines at various government offices, I wasn't going to change it."
"My ex didn't laugh. He insisted it's about starting a new chapter and wants me to 'move on'."
"The whole situation felt bizarre. For two years, it's never been an issue, and now they're ganging up on me?"
"After the party, my ex called and argued that keeping his name makes it hard for his fiancé to feel like they're starting a fresh life. I countered that our kids still use the same name, and it would feel strange for me to be the odd one out."
"What really hurt was learning from my youngest son that his fiancé feels threatened by my name, assuming I'm clinging to some claim on my ex. I've made it clear I have zero interest in rekindling anything, but it feels like I'm being pressured to erase a part of my identity."
"My ex admitted his fiancé is uncomfortable because he sees me keeping the name as a 'power play'."
"I feel like I'm caught between trying to keep peace and being forced into something just because his fiancé is insecure. They want me to go through the hassle of changing everything for their comfort."
"I told my ex that I'll consider it later—maybe after they're married and settled. But now, he's furious, saying I'm being petty and selfish."
"My friends think I should stand my ground, but my kids are divided—one thinks I should just give in to keep the peace, while the other agrees that it's ridiculous to change it just because his fiancé feels insecure.
"I'm frustrated. I don't see why a name on some legal documents is such a big deal, but they're making me feel like the villain."
"So, AITA for refusing to drop my ex-husband's last name even though he's getting remarried?"
The OP summed up their situation.
"I refused to change my last name after divorce. My ex feels that after the divorce I should change my last name as it it makes his now fiancé insecure."
Redditors weighed in by declaring:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA - You're The A**hole
- NAH - No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Redditors unanimously decided the OP was not the a**hole (NTA).
"NTA. Don't change your name! I had my ex's name for 22 years and changing it is horrible."
"I have so much stuff in that name, but as you stated it's your children's name and you will always be their mother. If the fiancé has an issue it is too bad."
"If you change it you will always be pissed at him for forcing you and if you don't he will have to get over it. Seriously, stand your ground on this one."
"It is horrible to change and he is trying to take control of you and your life. If he wins this one it will be down hill from there with every choice you make regarding your kids and life events with the kids and the ex."
"I can just imagine the other demands he will make if he wins this one." ~ MrsNobodyspecial67
"NTA. I have a last name that in the United States, anyone with my surname is either a first cousin, child or grandchild of a first cousin, or married to one of my first cousins."
"Unless your ex-husband's surname is that rare, there's going to be a lot of people with that same surname. Including your children."
"And there have been divorces in my family, including my parents, and no one had to involuntarily give up our rare last name."
"It's not a 'power move'—it's a convenience move. After 26 years, getting everything changed would be a massive, unnecessary and expensive hassle. Ain't nobody at our age got time for that."
"Besides, tell your ex and his fiancé that unless he plans to use the title Ms. or Mrs. after marriage, it's not like anyone is going to get you two confused."
"Maybe they should move on and get over it." ~ LakotaGrl
"It's not just his name, it's the kids' name too. It's your family's name. That should honestly be a red flag about the fiancé, that he wants to change that."
"And if they have such a problem with it, why doesn't ex just take the fiancé's name?" ~ BloodedBae
"NTA, exactly this. If it's such a big deal let your ex be the one to change his name. You share a name with your children and do not have a compelling reason to change it. The fiancé's insecurities are not enough." ~ KeyBox6804
"Nah, he won't change his name because it's who he is—whereas I guarantee you that at some (probably subconscious) level, he sees her name merely as an indicator of which man she's tied to."
"In some people's minds, women are never really their own people with their own identities, and this guy has now revealed himself as belonging to that club. NTA, OP." ~ holesinallfoursocks
"Yep. When they married and she took his name, he never considered that now this last name is hers as much as it is his. He just saw it as him permitting her to use his name, and thinks she has no right to it anymore since it's not really hers."
"But he's wrong. It's her name now and he gets no say in her legal name." ~ a-mathemagician
"Especially after a 26 year marriage. Like many women, she's had this last name as long if not longer than she had her maiden name."
"It's who she is now and it doesn't matter that they aren't married. A decision to change her last name is her decision only. OP is NTA." ~ GrammyGH
"That's what I noted. She's 56 now. She divorced 2 years ago after 26 years of marriage. She's had that last name for almost half of her life." ~ Ijustreadalot
"And the half of her life full of creating a life that's given her an identity. Not the toddler to collegiate stage, but the portion of her life spent creating social relationships and contacts both personal and professional, establishing herself amongst a community."
"Like the half of your life that shapes you into the adult you are today."
"The fiancé is holding the family hostage. And we don't negotiate with emotional terrorists."
"And it's a huge red flag that this is how he is starting his relationship with the family. If he believes his gay partner is at risk of returning to his non-gay ex-wife, well, if there was ever a reason for premarital counseling, this would be it..."
"The fiancé's insecurity is a problem. But it's not yours, OP. 'Not my monkeys. Not my circus. Not the a**hole." ~ RollerDerbyOrphan
"Hell, it's becoming more prevalent for couples to keep their names even in non celebrity marriages. As a dude, it's a pain in the ass to have to update just a phone number or credit card across various online accounts."
"I would never want to subject someone to having to change their entire identity—much less forcing them to change it back after 26 years—out of petty spite. NTA." ~ Azrichiel
It looks like Reddit agrees. The fiancé needs to just let it go and move on.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.