Respecting one's elders is something everyone is taught from birth.
In some cultures, elders rule the roost.
What they say goes, no exceptions.
This version of respect can clash with family outsiders.
Everyone has their boundaries on issues like this and differing opinions can stir up trouble.
Redditor Royal-Combination-62 wanted to discuss their experience and get some feedback. So naturally, they came to visit the "Am I The A**hole" (AITA) subReddit.
They asked:
"AITA for being culturally insensitive about butter?"
The Original Poster (OP) explained:
"I was at my B[oy]F[riend]'s family home."
"I'm a nurse."
"My son burnt himself on the grill by smacking his forehead into while playing."
"He had a little burn."
"I went to the bathroom to clean it up and put some cold water on it."
"My boyfriend's great-grandmother was there."
"There might be some cultural differences between us."
"They are Latina, and she insists on putting butter on my kid's burn."
"I said no and then my BF's mom came to talk to me saying I should just do this because it's disrespectful to his great-grandmother not to take her advice she's almost 100."
"I told his mother it's disrespectful of them not to listen to me about treating my own child and I'm a nurse so I'm not putting butter on a small burn."
"The women in his family tried to bully me again about the butter and I'm finally got mad and said butter is for cooking."
"Why would I want it on the burn?"
"I saw his mom try to put it on my kid and I said no f**king butter."
"I took my kid and left."
"My boyfriend said I am not to treat his family like that and I should have just let them do it."
"In his culture elders are important."
"I said in my culture my boundaries and health are more important than your grandma's ego."
"We haven't talked since and my friend said I was being insensitive to my boyfriend and his family."
"My boyfriend is not the father of my son."
"I am divorced."
"Texting but his grandma is still visiting and he wanted me to apologize and I said no."
"So probably a 3-year relationship done over f**king butter."
The OP was left to wonder:
"So, AITA?"
Redditors shared their thoughts on this matter and weighed some options to the question AITA:
- NTA - Not The A**hole
- YTA – You're The A**hole
- NAH – No A**holes Here
- ESH - Everyone Sucks Here
Many Redditors declared OP was NOT the A**hole.
"NTA, they need to respect you as a nurse."
"How long since you and your boyfriend talked?"
"Not pulling the Reddit Dump his card, but you two need to look at cultural differences to see if this will work." ~ ReallyCantThinkof-1
"Elders can be important, but it doesn't mean they are always right. NTA." ~ Antique_Wafer8605
"The relationship is not over because of butter."
"Over ego and gaslighting and guilt trips from people who can't even spend two seconds to google something and would rather actively damage a child instead."
"This is not a family you should enter."
"And if the boyfriend is supporting them and not you (and your KID don't forget), then you don't need the boyfriend either, and he's dangerous to have around your kid."
"Literally, his first concern should be the truth about what is best for the kid, which is literally a two-second Google away."
"His second concern should be to respect your boundaries."
"Even if they were right, it's your kid, not theirs, and they crossed the line in trying to tell you how to parent.'
"Third concern should be to respect your trained knowledge."
"Only after those things should he be worried about how his family is going to feel over not getting their way and being 'respected.'"
"Respect is a two-way street."
"They weren't showing any, they don't get any."
"Boyfriend learns or goes."
"Take your pick." ~ Thortok2000
"It's good that you learned this at BUTTER."
"Boyfriend becoming husband would put his matriarchal family (mother, grandmother, maybe aunts) over your expectations as a MOTHER to raise your child."
"It would have been a constant battle that it is good to discuss and resolve now."
"For example, it would have to be his mother in your birthing room for your next child, his mother's rules on raising your next kid, his mother's expectations for taking care of her son/husband (cooking, cleaning, etc)."
"Dating is when you find that out."
"Hopefully, he can come around to understand that he has to choose you 3 as a family unit or else it's never going to work." ~ Hot-Adhesiveness-438
"NTA."
"So probably a 3-year relationship done over f**king butter."
"It's not over butter, it's over your child's safety."
"You really need to re-evaluate your relationship."
"In the future what if your kid goes to your boyfriend's house without you and something happens can you be sure that your kid will get proper care with him and his parents?"
"Your boyfriend can literally endanger your kid's life."
"I would suggest to be done with him and his family." ~ Dr_____strange
"NTA... because... 1/ You are his mom, you have the final say in how he is treated..."
"2/ You are a nurse or medical professional and you know better ways to treat such wounds (and to avoid risks like infection)..."
"3/ Butter-on-a-burn is an old 'traditional' thing to do but there is no observed benefit (medically, scientifically, there are studies)."
"And in fact, it can make things worse if the skin hasn't been cooled enough after the actually burn - by putting cold water on it, as you did."
"Now the woman was almost 100 so it is easy to see how she would not accept these arguments or has the role of her family old-wise-matriarch."
"I don't think she is an a**hole here either, that's how old folks are."
"But your boyfriend's mother scolding you like this is entirely a**hole behavior."
"And if your boyfriend is not on your side in this, you should reconsider where does he draws the line in his family respecting you and you respecting them."
"In my culture elders are important too but they are also wise enough to hear their children say 'Let her be, grandma, you know how young people are, they need to do it their way' and that would have been it." ~ atealein
"NTA. This is about the well-being of your child."
"You do not put butter on burns."
"I was taught this 34 years ago in first aid in basic training."
"You're a nurse."
"You have greater knowledge of these matters than 99% of the population."
"You're not being culturally insensitive, you're being sensible."
"Your boyfriend and your friend are being ar**holes."
"Maybe show them medical websites that advise against putting butter on burns."
"Perhaps ask them if they feel it's fair to endanger your own child to perpetrate a harmful myth?"
"Or just tell them to F off..." ~ dabassmonsta
"NTA. Butter on a burn is an old home remedy that is harmful rather than helpful."
"The grease will cause the burn to retain more heat, which will make the burn worse." ~ ScreamingTaffy
"NTA - culture or not you have to protect your son against bad advice and bad medical treatment."
"My boyfriend said I am not to treat his family like that and I should have just let them do it."
"In his culture elders are important."
'I said in my culture my boundaries and health are more important than your grandma's ego."
"We haven't talked since and my friend said I was being insensitive to my boyfriend and his family"
"You two are due for a serious long talk - I would make this my hill to die on." ~ Comfortable-Sea-2454
"NTA. Wow. Using butter on a burn was debunked when I was a child, but you still see it in shows and movies, so I guess some people didn't get the memo."
"That being said, bullying a mother about her child's welfare is a no-no."
"Bullying a nurse about first aid is just dumb." ~ BeMandalorTomad
"NTA, I'm Latina with an overbearing Latina mother who tries to give my kid homemade concoctions."
"I say no and yeah there's been conflict I still say NO and it's my own mother."
"Honestly, he needs to recognize you are his mother and a nurse and he needs to have your back. Period." ~ Abject-Armadillo-496
"NTA. I have no idea if butter is even remotely helpful in this scenario but it does not matter."
"You are his mother and have the only say in how you treat your son's wound."
"Your boyfriend and his mom were acting completely out of line dismissing your boundaries and trying to undermine your treatment."
"Respecting elders does not mean blind obedience to everything they say."
"You've just been shown the behavior of the family you'll potentially marry into someday and if they treated me like this, I'd be giving the future of this relationship some serious thought." ~ applebum8807
"NTA. A quick Google shows that you should never put butter on a burn, it actually makes things worse."
"So not only is this not 'a matter of preference,', it means that they are actively trying to harm your child because of their own ego."
"This goes beyond a simple boundary issue."
"It means that they don't understand the concept of being wrong and are gaslighting you into feeling guilty for not obeying their self-assumed superiority."
"And they call this 'culture' (It's part of the gaslighting)."
"Can't speak as to the best way to navigate this with diplomacy, I suck at diplomacy."
"But they are wrong and you are right, and if they can't handle that, and you, like me, aren't diplomatic enough to get them to learn to handle that, then you may need a different boyfriend." ~ Thortok2000
"NTA. I am Hispanic."
"It enrages me every time an 'elderly' person tries to force their way and people allow them because they are older else it's disrespectful."
"My grandma loves to gossip, even about her own daughters."
"My mom says 'She's old, she's not doing it intentionally, let her be.'"
"Absolutely not, she's doing it because she can get away with it!"
"I've never tolerated that BS." ~ gracie_jc
"NTA, and if someone is giving you the silent treatment, they are showing you they are still a child."
"I wouldn't waste time on this guy." ~ Start_a_riot271
"NTA. Find a new BF. Or don't. But dump this guy."
"Three years?"
"Unfortunately he only showed these colors now but better now than after 5 years." ~ Longjumping-Lab-1916
Well, OP, Reddit is with you.
Your child, your rules.
Decisions about your kid's health are made by you and not virtual strangers.
This is an unfortunate situation.
It may be time for a serious sit-down with your BF.
Three years is a long time to waste, but better now than something more serious later.
Good luck.
















New Mom Irate After Father-In-Law Ruins Her Birthday With 'Vulgar' Comment About Her Breasts
There's nothing quite like the feeling of going through all the work to prepare a fun celebration, just for someone to undo it with an unkind or gross comment.
That feeling just gets worse when it's your birthday, and that comment was made by someone who's supposed to care about you, sympathized the members of the "Am I Overreacting?" (AIO) subReddit.
Redditor Rude-Pepper-2389 had recently given birth and decided to have a special birthday celebration to reconnect with her loved ones after becoming a mom.
When her father-in-law stopped by unexpectedly and then made comments about her body, the Original Poster (OP) was left so uncomfortable that it ruined the whole celebration for her.
She asked the sub:
The OP wanted to have a special birthday celebration after her baby was born.
"I currently have a five-month-old and haven’t really been taking care of myself or dressing up since having the baby."
"It’s my (25 Female) birthday, and we were having friends over at our house for a private dinner to celebrate."
"My husband (24 Male) and I have been together since we were 18."
"I decided to put on this new silk shirt I got, which, admittedly, was low-cut, but I felt cute in it and felt comfortable around the friends we were having over."
Everything was fine until the OP's father-in-law (FIL) stopped by unexpectedly.
"My husband's dad decided to stop by on his way home from work."
"I will say, he was likely drunk. He works two hours away and proudly told my husband he's down to only four beers on his drive home each day... so, that's healthy."
"When he came in, I was on the couch with my baby propped up beside me, bottle feeding him. Keep in mind, I am not breastfeeding, so no, my breasts are not any larger right now."
"My husband's dad leaned down to look at the baby and then suddenly shouted, 'D**n, son, she could knock you out with those things in bed! Like cracking two coconuts together.'"
"This was fully and undoubtedly in reference to my breasts."
The OP was shocked by the comment and very uncomfortable.
"It made me deeply uncomfortable and embarrassed."
"I was so stunned, I couldn’t even process what he said to me, and our friends just stared at me, blinking."
"He’s a redneck, so he's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years, but this just seems to take the cake, as it was the first time it was directed at me."
"When he stepped out, I told my husband he needed to speak to him, and that the comment wasn’t okay."
"I went to change clothes and decided to never ever wear that shirt again."
"When I brought it up to my husband, he said he didn't hear the comment at first, but then he laughed when I told him what he said. He's always laughed when he feels awkward and has always had a hard time standing up to his parents in any capacity."
"When he and my father-in-law spoke, my FIL just said, 'I shouldn’t have said that to her, I know how she can be,' which just feels even more like I’m just being dramatic."
"Since then, I think my husband just wants me to drop it and move on, truthfully."
The OP wasn't sure what to do after what happened.
"This genuinely ruined my entire night. Am I just too sensitive, or was this an inappropriate thing to say?"
"There's also been no apology since then. This happened on Thursday, and then my father-in-law came by again on Friday with flowers to wish me a happy Mother's Day before Mother's Day Sunday."
"I think that was his way of trying to just breeze past the awkwardness. He's never gotten me a gift the whole seven years I've known him, so the flowers were odd. But I still feel really uncomfortable."
Fellow Redditors weighed in:
Some reassured the OP that her father-in-law's comments were rude and just plain creepy.
"NOR at all. That was really rude of him. Anyone would be offended." - Bookbringer
"NOR. That’s firmly in the category of what should be an 'inside thought,' and we should learn what those are at a much younger age than this guy is."
"F**king h**l, this is an absolutely mental thing to say out loud, let alone to your daughter-in-law." - Electronic-Fennel828
"FIL is an AH. I love that you think his being a redneck excuses it, but d**n. Even rednecks should know better than to speak that way to their son's wife."
"What does your husband have to say? Does he understand how breath-takingly rude his father was, or is he Team 'That's Just How He Is'?"
"I'd go very low contact with the old perv. NOR, he put you in an uncomfortable position with his crude remark. Is he married? I'd tell the MIL. I'd tell the whole family. Yes, it's embarrassing, but he is the one who should be embarrassed. Don't accept his non-apology." - Top-Bit85
"Maybe I’m desensitized after having large breasts since I was 13 (I’m 28 now), but I let out a little snort based on how immature of a joke it was. I’d simply tell FIL, 'Yes, I know, my boobs are big,' and move on."
"That said, I would never make such a comment about another person's body. Just because I'm technically fine with it doesn't mean I assume anyone else is!"
"Not everyone is the same, and if OP felt uncomfortable, she’s NOR. Her body, her boundaries." - Both_Original2094
"I’m sorry. That’s upsetting. My father is like this with his father. Even if it’s very offensive comments, he’s uncomfortable and has problems confronting him. It sounds like your husband isn’t going to have a talk with him, which is hurtful."
"I would explain to your husband how uncomfortable the situation was for you and that it’s a serious matter, especially if it happens again. And if he still tries to brush it off, then I would tell him you no longer want your FIL coming to your home."
"It’s your life, too, and he’s not the one being hurt here, you are." - w_coastultraviolence
Others were specifically angry about the tactics the father-in-law used to try to get out of trouble.
"Seriously? Saying 'I know how she can be' is a classic way to blame the victim for having boundaries. It’s your birthday, not a Hooters convention. What a creep. If he can’t look at the baby without checking out your breast, he shouldn't be invited to the house." - Specific_Parsnip3264
"'I know how she can be' is so f**ked up. He's the one being a disgusting person. You need to shine up your husband's spine to properly call him out at the time next time, because there will be a next time." - dancepantz
"The bit that pisses me off the most is, 'I know how she can be,' which is his way of making it her problem that she doesn't like her FiL sexualising her in front of her friends." - Outside-Partait-8935
"The 'joke' comment is gross, but that follow-up comment is infuriating. NOR, OP. But this guy will be in your life for a while, so firmly & calmly shutting this stuff down is completely appropriate."
"I'd wear the d**n shirt again to the next family function and look him right in the eyes next time!" - RationalFish
"When we let things like this slide for others, it's not long before it ends up on our doorstep, and of course, nobody says anything because keeping the peace is the norm. It doesn't have to be getting into their face and yelling abuse back. Just a comment such as, 'Well, that's super tacky to say,' or asking them why they'd say that." - Kattnapped
"The OP said, 'He's said some pretty vulgar stuff over the years... but this is the first time it was directed to me.'"
"Normalise calling stuff out when they are talking about others, and they won't feel so comfortable saying it to you."
"It's a gross thing for him to say, but I guess him buying you flowers is his way of saying sorry."
"Sounds like you are in the situation of a lot of new mothers, where you suddenly realise this stuff matters because you want better influences for your child, and better support for yourself. NOR." - Jumpy-Jello-
Now, about that shirt...
"Please re-think your decision to never wear the cute shirt again, girl!! It's something that you liked very much because it made you feel good about yourself. Don't let some backwoods id**t ruin that for you."
"Wear that shirt till it's worn out and can't be worn anymore!! You should be able to feel good about yourself in whatever you like to wear."
"Your husband should have immediately checked his father, not waited until he was told to do so after his father left the room. In front of everyone there, your husband should have told his father not to ever speak about you or to you in that kind of manner, and if his father doesn't like it, he knows where the door is."
"Hubby should have called him out for his response as well. You did absolutely nothing wrong. You were not the problem; his dad was. This comes down to your husband needing to protect his wife, and he didn't do that." - Lynzo141982
"If he is a redneck, like you said, he won't outright apologize, but flowers are his way of saying sorry."
"I hope he won't say anything again, or else you can expect a nicely tended garden for at least a year."
"About your top, I hope you can wear it again. It takes a lot to feel cute, being a new mum."
"If not, get some fabric dye, dye the top a different color, and embroider a flower on it. This makes the top new, different, and every time you wear it, you can use the mantra ... I'm cute, I don't care what anyone says."
"You've got this!!" - No_Kangaroo_6637
Even if the father-in-law was joking and meant no harm, this is one of those situations where he needs to admit that his joke did not land well, he did cause harm, and he needs to apologize. Just because some people enjoy joking in that manner does not mean that everyone will be comfortable with it, and it's important to respect everyone's boundaries and zones of comfort.